(10-21-2015 09:18 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  McGee is smart...keeping his mouth shut till UL hush money (probably in the $500,000 or more range) clears his Swiss Bank Account and then and only then, will McGee say that "Pitino didn't know anything about the 22 stripper/escort parties he threw in UL's private basketball dorm over a 4 year period while using tens of thousands of $$$ from UL's recruiting budget to support these parties and illegal activities.

While Pitino not knowing won't matter much to the NCAA who could still bring sanctions against the program, Pitino needs to pay off McGee and have him lie to NCAA investigators/UL investigators to help save his job.

As always, follow the money. The graduate assistant was not paying for this out of his own pocket.

The outcome lies in the hands of the local Commonwealth Attorney since he's the guy who can truly threaten the graduate assistant. If he wants to make a name out of this, all sorts of charges can be thought up: Promoting prostitution; "human trafficking"; perhaps child abuse if a recruit were a tender innocent of 17. Shouldn't be hard for the prosecutor to get the graduate assistant to say whatever he wants.

But would he want to make a name for himself by bringing down U of L? Will that pay dividends politically?

Hush money? Perhaps. But if the charges are grand enough, or the graduate assistant not savvy enough, then it won't matter. In fact, maybe the bulk of the hush money should go to the Jefferson County Commonwealth Attorney's office (in one form or another) instead.

Maybe $60M to set up some sort of anti-child abuse foundation controlled by friends and associates? It worked at Penn State.

This is America after all. Scandals cost money, but SEX scandals cost BIG MONEY!

If the prosecutor does his job and the source of the money is uncovered, then the NCAA will have all it needs to cite a "lack of institutional control". You should then expect the NCAA to take swift action by going medieval on Marshall or Western Kentucky. Old Dominion is already shaking in its boots about the tremendous price it will need to pay for the awful infractions at UNC.

(10-21-2015 09:05 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 08:48 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Interesting article from 2011
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...ions_N.htm

Ah the old 'everybody's doing it' meme.

Lol. Cards been in denial. This is the bargaining stage

(10-21-2015 11:25 AM)Enriquillo Wrote:  As always, follow the money. The graduate assistant was not paying for this out of his own pocket.

The outcome lies in the hands of the local Commonwealth Attorney since he's the guy who can truly threaten the graduate assistant. If he wants to make a name out of this, all sorts of charges can be thought up: Promoting prostitution; "human trafficking"; perhaps child abuse if a recruit were a tender innocent of 17. Shouldn't be hard for the prosecutor to get the graduate assistant to say whatever he wants.

But would he want to make a name for himself by bringing down U of L? Will that pay dividends politically?

Hush money? Perhaps. But if the charges are grand enough, or the graduate assistant not savvy enough, then it won't matter. In fact, maybe the bulk of the hush money should go to the Jefferson County Commonwealth Attorney's office (in one form or another) instead.

Maybe $60M to set up some sort of anti-child abuse foundation controlled by friends and associates? It worked at Penn State.

This is America after all. Scandals cost money, but SEX scandals cost BIG MONEY!

If the prosecutor does his job and the source of the money is uncovered, then the NCAA will have all it needs to cite a "lack of institutional control". You should then expect the NCAA to take swift action by going medieval on Marshall or Western Kentucky. Old Dominion is already shaking in its boots about the tremendous price it will need to pay for the awful infractions at UNC.

Good point. I keep forgetting that this is also criminal case. Some of those charges probably carry multi-year prison sentences. Personally, I'm not sure there is any amount of hush money for me to go to prison for years and be a registered sex offender when I do get out.

(10-21-2015 09:05 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 08:48 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Interesting article from 2011
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...ions_N.htm

Ah the old 'everybody's doing it' meme.

Oh yeah... "EVERYBODY" Everybody hires hookers to bang recruits. What they really mean is UNC, Kentucky, Kansas and other teams they recruit against do various shady too.

That dopey mouth-breather didn't even read the article. Nothing on there remotely compares to these allegations.

(10-21-2015 12:18 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 11:25 AM)Enriquillo Wrote:  As always, follow the money. The graduate assistant was not paying for this out of his own pocket.

The outcome lies in the hands of the local Commonwealth Attorney since he's the guy who can truly threaten the graduate assistant. If he wants to make a name out of this, all sorts of charges can be thought up: Promoting prostitution; "human trafficking"; perhaps child abuse if a recruit were a tender innocent of 17. Shouldn't be hard for the prosecutor to get the graduate assistant to say whatever he wants.

But would he want to make a name for himself by bringing down U of L? Will that pay dividends politically?

Hush money? Perhaps. But if the charges are grand enough, or the graduate assistant not savvy enough, then it won't matter. In fact, maybe the bulk of the hush money should go to the Jefferson County Commonwealth Attorney's office (in one form or another) instead.

Maybe $60M to set up some sort of anti-child abuse foundation controlled by friends and associates? It worked at Penn State.

This is America after all. Scandals cost money, but SEX scandals cost BIG MONEY!

If the prosecutor does his job and the source of the money is uncovered, then the NCAA will have all it needs to cite a "lack of institutional control". You should then expect the NCAA to take swift action by going medieval on Marshall or Western Kentucky. Old Dominion is already shaking in its boots about the tremendous price it will need to pay for the awful infractions at UNC.

Good point. I keep forgetting that this is also criminal case. Some of those charges probably carry multi-year prison sentences. Personally, I'm not sure there is any amount of hush money for me to go to prison for years and be a registered sex offender when I do get out.

Even the recruits that are mentioned, now at other schools can face criminal charges. Kentucky law is very strict in that even if You were having sex with a prostitute and benefited from someone else paying for it, You are just as guilty as the Prostitute.
Also does anyone know that if Louisville loses the 2013 Championship banner, will the AAC have to payback the Credits money that Louisville left behind when leaving?

(10-21-2015 12:35 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Also does anyone know that if Louisville loses the 2013 Championship banner, will the AAC have to payback the Credits money that Louisville left behind when leaving?

I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

She seems to know what she was doing. She kept notes and receipts, for example.

(10-21-2015 12:27 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 09:05 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 08:48 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Interesting article from 2011
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...ions_N.htm

Ah the old 'everybody's doing it' meme.

Oh yeah... "EVERYBODY" Everybody hires hookers to bang recruits. What they really mean is UNC, Kentucky, Kansas and other teams they recruit against do various shady too.

That dopey mouth-breather didn't even read the article. Nothing on there remotely compares to these allegations.

You can put Your shirt back on Now !

(10-21-2015 12:43 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:35 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Also does anyone know that if Louisville loses the 2013 Championship banner, will the AAC have to payback the Credits money that Louisville left behind when leaving?

Now that fall into the "it depends" category, as in it depends on what the settlement agreement says and/or how it might be interpreted by a court. It's always best to be the party with the money in possession.

Besides, you guys can afford it. Teams in the ACC get paid a lot of TV money in exchange for their less than mediocre performance on the football field.

(10-21-2015 01:00 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

She seems to know what she was doing. She kept notes and receipts, for example.

The statute of limitations for prostitution in Kentucky is one year. The legal age of consent is 16. I think one can reasonably assume that the prostitutes & the players/recruits are clear of any legal penalties.

Powell & McGee however could still face felony charges for promoting prostitution which carries stiffer penalties in Kentucky & doesn't have a statute of limitations. Where the under aged sex comes in is under Ky law that if you promote prostitution with someone under 17. In her book Powell states that her daughters, age 15 & 17 I believe, participated in the activities. She said yesterday, after gaining the services of a lawyer, that her daughters didn't participate in prostitution while being under aged.

If she was truly wise then she would have attained the services of a lawyer before publishing the book, sought immunity before hand & secured a greater payment than the 10% of the book sales that she has reportedly gotten. It was smart however to keep a journal & texts messages, pictures during the "dancing" would have been wise to. According to her lawyer yesterday she is now seeking help from UofL to acquire immunity in exchange for more evidence (I would assume more names of players involved & other details left out of the book).

(10-21-2015 01:46 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 01:00 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

She seems to know what she was doing. She kept notes and receipts, for example.

The statute of limitations for prostitution in Kentucky is one year. The legal age of consent is 16. I think one can reasonably assume that the prostitutes & the players/recruits are clear of any legal penalties.

Powell & McGee however could still face felony charges for promoting prostitution which carries stiffer penalties in Kentucky & doesn't have a statute of limitations. Where the under aged sex comes in is under Ky law that if you promote prostitution with someone under 17. In her book Powell states that her daughters, age 15 & 17 I believe, participated in the activities. She said yesterday, after gaining the services of a lawyer, that her daughters didn't participate in prostitution while being under aged.

If she was truly wise then she would have attained the services of a lawyer before publishing the book, sought immunity before hand & secured a greater payment than the 10% of the book sales that she has reportedly gotten. It was smart however to keep a journal & texts messages, pictures during the "dancing" would have been wise to. According to her lawyer yesterday she is now seeking help from UofL to acquire immunity in exchange for more evidence (I would assume more names of players involved & other details left out of the book).

You forgot "corrupting the morals", racketeering, conspiracy, tax evasion and other potential charges. It's really only limited by the creativity of the prosecutor. Nobody is "clear".

Prosecutors basically have carte blanche, and many Americans (who haven't been arrested ... yet) seem to like it that way.

(10-21-2015 01:46 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 01:00 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

She seems to know what she was doing. She kept notes and receipts, for example.

The statute of limitations for prostitution in Kentucky is one year. The legal age of consent is 16. I think one can reasonably assume that the prostitutes & the players/recruits are clear of any legal penalties.

Powell & McGee however could still face felony charges for promoting prostitution which carries stiffer penalties in Kentucky & doesn't have a statute of limitations. Where the under aged sex comes in is under Ky law that if you promote prostitution with someone under 17. In her book Powell states that her daughters, age 15 & 17 I believe, participated in the activities. She said yesterday, after gaining the services of a lawyer, that her daughters didn't participate in prostitution while being under aged.

If she was truly wise then she would have attained the services of a lawyer before publishing the book, sought immunity before hand & secured a greater payment than the 10% of the book sales that she has reportedly gotten. It was smart however to keep a journal & texts messages, pictures during the "dancing" would have been wise to. According to her lawyer yesterday she is now seeking help from UofL to acquire immunity in exchange for more evidence (I would assume more names of players involved & other details left out of the book).

Nobody cares if the ho goes to jail if it takes louiseville too

Old Rick is one shady cat. It is surprising a team in the bible belt puts up with a complete clown.

But I'm still waiting for the hit piece by Pat Forde.

(10-21-2015 03:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 01:46 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 01:00 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

She seems to know what she was doing. She kept notes and receipts, for example.

The statute of limitations for prostitution in Kentucky is one year. The legal age of consent is 16. I think one can reasonably assume that the prostitutes & the players/recruits are clear of any legal penalties.

Powell & McGee however could still face felony charges for promoting prostitution which carries stiffer penalties in Kentucky & doesn't have a statute of limitations. Where the under aged sex comes in is under Ky law that if you promote prostitution with someone under 17. In her book Powell states that her daughters, age 15 & 17 I believe, participated in the activities. She said yesterday, after gaining the services of a lawyer, that her daughters didn't participate in prostitution while being under aged.

If she was truly wise then she would have attained the services of a lawyer before publishing the book, sought immunity before hand & secured a greater payment than the 10% of the book sales that she has reportedly gotten. It was smart however to keep a journal & texts messages, pictures during the "dancing" would have been wise to. According to her lawyer yesterday she is now seeking help from UofL to acquire immunity in exchange for more evidence (I would assume more names of players involved & other details left out of the book).

Nobody cares if the ho goes to jail if it takes louiseville too

Congrats on your victory over Ole Miss. The Tigers are looking good this year.

(10-21-2015 03:33 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Old Rick is one shady cat. It is surprising a team in the bible belt puts up with a complete clown.

But I'm still waiting for the hit piece by Pat Forde.

Right now the only thing talking on behalf of Pitino is his recent nat. championship, otherwise he would already be packing.

(10-21-2015 01:46 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 01:00 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:58 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:48 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I assumed the statue of limitations has past or it would be dumb to write a book putting oneself in danger of jail.

She does seem extremely smart... so I'm stumped on this one.

She seems to know what she was doing. She kept notes and receipts, for example.

The statute of limitations for prostitution in Kentucky is one year. The legal age of consent is 16. I think one can reasonably assume that the prostitutes & the players/recruits are clear of any legal penalties.

Powell & McGee however could still face felony charges for promoting prostitution which carries stiffer penalties in Kentucky & doesn't have a statute of limitations. Where the under aged sex comes in is under Ky law that if you promote prostitution with someone under 17. In her book Powell states that her daughters, age 15 & 17 I believe, participated in the activities. She said yesterday, after gaining the services of a lawyer, that her daughters didn't participate in prostitution while being under aged.

If she was truly wise then she would have attained the services of a lawyer before publishing the book, sought immunity before hand & secured a greater payment than the 10% of the book sales that she has reportedly gotten. It was smart however to keep a journal & texts messages, pictures during the "dancing" would have been wise to. According to her lawyer yesterday she is now seeking help from UofL to acquire immunity in exchange for more evidence (I would assume more names of players involved & other details left out of the book).

Thank you for the explanation.

In my opinion Patino should be fired today and the University of Louisville President fired tomorrow as head of the university he should have known about it. As Harry Truman said the buck stops here on my desk. Also the Louisville Board following the lead of President Eamon Kelly at Tulane should shut down the Louisville basketball program totally until the board can clean this filthy and disgusting program up. A Louisville degree now is worth nothing Also I would consider seriously butting Louisville and UNC from r major embarrassments and cheating.

(10-21-2015 06:48 PM)Savacool Wrote:  In my opinion Patino should be fired today and the University of Louisville President fired tomorrow as head of the university he should have known about it. As Harry Truman said the buck stops here on my desk. Also the Louisville Board following the lead of President Eamon Kelly at Tulane should shut down the Louisville basketball program totally until the board can clean this filthy and disgusting program up. A Louisville degree now is worth nothing Also I would consider seriously butting Louisville and UNC from r major embarrassments and cheating.

The quality of education from Louisville and UNC have nothing whatsoever to do with the goings on in their basketball program.