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Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
If we had known back in July that Hunt would only have played in one out of our first 4 games, how many of us would have predicted an undefeated season at this point? Probably not too many. We knew we had a good group of running backs--but given that they have run behind a brand-new offensive line & the passing game had been struggling, I think that depth--and effort from Jones-Moore, Swanson & Remy--has been outstanding.
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I love old fashioned run based offense.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
(10-04-2015 10:10 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.

Nothing like a dash of optimism to brighten up things.

It's ok, Hunt at 75% is still the best RB in the MAC.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
(10-04-2015 10:10 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.

I say keep him out until he is 100%. Right now, we are fine without him, so let him rest up.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
(10-04-2015 09:29 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  If we had known back in July that Hunt would only have played in one out of our first 4 games, how many of us would have predicted an undefeated season at this point? Probably not too many. We knew we had a good group of running backs--but given that they have run behind a brand-new offensive line & the passing game had been struggling, I think that depth--and effort from Jones-Moore, Swanson & Remy--has been outstanding.

I didn't think UT would be undefeated with a healthy, non-suspended Hunt.
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(10-04-2015 09:43 AM)utxctrack Wrote:  I love old fashioned run based offense.

Amen!!! Run the ball down their throats!!! Take their manhood!!!
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(10-04-2015 10:28 AM)Rocket4Life Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 10:10 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.

I say keep him out until he is 100%. Right now, we are fine without him, so let him rest up.

He had the entire off-season to rest up? He played in, what, 1 game so far this year and is already hurting? It's a shame...
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
(10-04-2015 10:10 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.
There's a cloud somewhere on any sunny day. Hunt will be fine and it's great that we have the luxury of letting him heal.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
Bonus note: (receivers) didn’t drop a single pass at Ball State.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
There is talk that UT really does not deserve a top 25 ranking. In reality, the team has not played its best, yet still wins. UT is doing exactly what Ohio State is doing this year. The amazing part is that if Hunt comes back healthy and the receivers catch what is thrown their way, this team could be competitive with anyone in the country. Ely is proving to be what Nick Saban thought he would be when Alabama recruited him: a guy with a terrific arm that does not panic under pressure. Throw in a defense that does not get pushed around by anyone (even the SEC) and you have a team that finds a way that wins. Also, it is not bad having a freshman kicker who plays like a veteran.
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Don't overlook the quality play week in and week out by the special teams. They have performed at a high level all season with few mistakes.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
(10-07-2015 10:52 AM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 10:28 AM)Rocket4Life Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 10:10 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.

I say keep him out until he is 100%. Right now, we are fine without him, so let him rest up.

He had the entire off-season to rest up? He played in, what, 1 game so far this year and is already hurting? It's a shame...

He has a hamstring injury. That is different than what he encountered last year, which I believe was an ankle and can be a nagging injury during a season. I wonder if the hammy is related to the limited playing time, then going hard. He is a young guy and will heal fine.
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At least we won't have to worry about Hunt running off to the NFL after this season.
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(10-07-2015 12:58 PM)utpotts Wrote:  At least we won't have to worry about Hunt running off to the NFL after this season.

I haven't seen anyone else mention this but I think that Marc Remy is a real good replacement back. When given the opportunity he has gained valuable yardage and I think one of Marc's greatest strengths is that he is a real good receiver. I've seen all of the games this year, mostly on-line, and I don't remember him dropping a pass...which is definitely a +.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
(10-07-2015 12:24 PM)AquaRocket Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 10:10 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Unfortunately, my feeling is that Hunt will never be 100% again.
There's a cloud somewhere on any sunny day. Hunt will be fine and it's great that we have the luxury of letting him heal.

Well, I'm a little clouded too. He's developed physically a lot in a short period and I think maybe the body needs time to grow into that. "Never?" Not if he's willing to step back a bit on the physical development, let the rest of the body grow into the physical stress he's putting on it with that muscle development. His injuries, have ANY been result of a hit?
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(10-07-2015 12:50 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  Don't overlook the quality play week in and week out by the special teams. They have performed at a high level all season with few mistakes.

Agreed. Special teams were a concern of mine going into the season. They have been solid to date.
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RE: Depth at running back helps UT compensate for absence of Hunt
Br J Sports Med. 2013 Apr;47(6):351-8. doi: 10.1136/bjsports-2011-090664. Epub 2012 Jul 4.
Risk factors for hamstring muscle strain injury in sport: a systematic review and meta-analysis.
Freckleton G1, Pizzari T. http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/47/6/351.long

What is already know about HMSI?
Hamstring muscle strain injuries (HMSI) are common in sport and there is a high rate of recurrence. Many papers have examined potential risk factors for HMSI, with age and previous hamstring strain being accepted as risk factors, and many others inconsistently identified as contributing to the injury. Qualitative reviews have been undertaken on this topic, but a meta-analysis of risk factor studies has not been performed.

What this study adds?

Meta-analysis identified age, previous history of hamstring strain and increased quadriceps peak torque as risk factors for HMSI. Other strength measures such as hamstring:quadriceps ratio, commonly perceived to be predictive of injury, were not associated with HMSI. This study highlights risk factors that require further investigation to confirm their involvement in HMSI and risk factors that have no association and need not be tested in future studies.

So, it is not because Kareem wasn't "in-shape" that he had a hamstring strain. The science doesn't link many factors consistently to an increased risk of hamstring strains. As the meta-analysis above concluded, previous hamstring strain, being older and having really strong quads are the only consistent factors that increase hamstring strain risk. The fact that he strained his hamstring does put him at higher risk to repeatedly strain it. (Hopefully not like Ken Griffey Jr)
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(10-07-2015 04:38 PM)PittRocket Wrote:  Other strength measures such as hamstring:quadriceps ratio, commonly perceived to be predictive of injury, were not associated with HMSI.



As the meta-analysis above concluded, previous hamstring strain, being older and having really strong quads are the only consistent factors that increase hamstring strain risk.

So an over development of the quads, even if balanced against hamstring can increase risk, is how I read that.
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