For those who think it is a bad idea to schedule olemiss because they are "too good" for us to play and only want to play P5 dregs like KU and Iowa State.

Maybe Fuente has the same philosophy as his mentor Gary Patterson. TCU started Big XII play in 2012. Their OOC schedules leading up to that Big XII invite included the following opponents:

2003 Arizona
2004 Northwestern and Texas Tech
2005 Oklahoma
2006 Baylor and Texas Tech
2007 Baylor and Texas
2008 Stanford and Oklahoma
2009 Virginia and Clemson
2010 Oregon State and Baylor
2011 Baylor

(09-28-2015 10:33 AM)3601 Wrote:  For those who think it is a bad idea to schedule olemiss because they are "too good" for us to play and only want to play P5 dregs like KU and Iowa State.

Maybe Fuente has the same philosophy as his mentor Gary Patterson. TCU started Big XII play in 2012. Their OOC schedules leading up to that Big XII invite included the following opponents:

2003 Arizona
2004 Northwestern and Texas Tech
2005 Oklahoma
2006 Baylor and Texas Tech
2007 Baylor and Texas
2008 Stanford and Oklahoma
2009 Virginia and Clemson
2010 Oregon State and Baylor
2011 Baylor

TCU was stupid letting those teams plant their flag in DFW

i'd schedule ole miss, miss st, tennessee, and arkansas as often as possible

Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

It is good idea to get one regional SEC team on the schedule as well as one Big 12 team on the schedule every year...

You have to have some meat on the schedule. We don't need to overload it but we can't load up on cupcakes either. it probably is a good idea to start playing a Big 12 game whenever we can. Even if we don't get a return game.

(09-28-2015 10:43 AM)btiger Wrote:  i'd schedule ole miss, miss st, tennessee, and arkansas as often as possible

You hate Bammer?

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Thanks. We don't need two or three a year, but yeah, playing one makes nothing but sense. And if UT isn't scared, maybe them and one other sometimes.

(09-28-2015 11:04 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  It is good idea to get one regional SEC team on the schedule as well as one Big 12 team on the schedule every year...

and one home and home lower p5/ avg g5, and one iaa buy game ... kind of like this year

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

No one knows the impact on the access bowl since we only have 1 year to go on. Boise State went 3-1 in Nonconference (losing to Ole Miss of all teams) also playing a AAC, Independent, and a Sun Belt Team. They also lost one game in conference.

Man, if we are getting home and home with these schools, we need to play them. At this time, I have no problem with playing lower tier Power 5 schools like Kansas, Duke, Virginia, etc. I think playing Ole Miss is a great idea also. Great attendance and a whole lot to gain from playing. We have little to lose against Ole Miss, and a hell of a lot to gain. I think it will be extremely difficult to beat them (defensive issues), but what a boost if we do! Tons of upside there.

They already have a foot in the door in the Memphis area. Look at many of their players. I'd say most of our players weren't considered SEC material when they were recruited. We have a great coaching staff that can find some diamonds in the rough...

(09-28-2015 10:38 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:33 AM)3601 Wrote:  For those who think it is a bad idea to schedule olemiss because they are "too good" for us to play and only want to play P5 dregs like KU and Iowa State.

Maybe Fuente has the same philosophy as his mentor Gary Patterson. TCU started Big XII play in 2012. Their OOC schedules leading up to that Big XII invite included the following opponents:

2003 Arizona
2004 Northwestern and Texas Tech
2005 Oklahoma
2006 Baylor and Texas Tech
2007 Baylor and Texas
2008 Stanford and Oklahoma
2009 Virginia and Clemson
2010 Oregon State and Baylor
2011 Baylor

TCU was stupid letting those teams plant their flag in DFW

They all recruit there anyway. Everyone does.

You don't get to play on national tv when your opponent is mtsu.


I don't know of a lot of people who want to avoid playing sec teams in football. Many, like myself, never want to play them in basketball unless it is tied to football.

Arkansas owes us a return game. Play the return game, and we'll talk about a basketball and footbAll scheduling agreement. We'll start the series at Memphis, considering your history of turning tail and running away from an agreement when you get your ass handed to you. Since you can't beat anyone anywhere right now, it shouldn't matter where the series starts anyway.

As for Tennessee, see above. Pretty much applies the same, although they are a much better team right now than Arkansas.

Alabama stopped playing us when we embarrassed them on national TV. I don't believe a home and home series is possible, since Alabama prefers to play all 13 of their games at home now. They are special.

Miss st and ole miss have had a series with us recently. We seriously propped up ole miss' ooc numbers last year. Both of those teams would ensure sellout crowds given our current ability of drawing nearly 50k for even the lesser known teams.

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

(09-28-2015 02:03 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 01:43 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:48 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(09-28-2015 10:47 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Maybe I missed it, but does someone really think it's stupid to play Ole Miss or Tennessee? My only reservation in Tennessee is that we not play them in basketball unless they will also play football, but I think playing any SEC team is a great idea.

However, I may have missed that there is a substantial opposition to this.

Yea, you missed it. There are a LOT of folks who don't want to player either om or ut....or any sec team for that matter.

Take this year for example...suppose Memphis played MTSU instead (or some other decent G5 school). Odds are Memphis would win (esp at home) vs. MTSU. Memphis then runs the table in AAC...pretty much guaranteed the Access bowl spot.

If Memphis loses to OM and runs the AAC table, how does that affect their chances of getting the Access bowl spot?

ECU has quite a few seasons where they has a good start only to lose to their "step up" in competition that ruined chances of bog bowls. Same for USM.

Marshall played no one last year and was basically a shoe in for the Access Bowl spot until they lost to WKU.

1. I was all for trying that philosophy when RC and Tommy were playing MTSU and Arky State, but it didn't work and folks were bitching about that too. You might have been one of them.

2. I think a close loss to om could actually help our resume and give us a chance at the access bowl because there is likely not to be another unbeaten G5 school. A win over om would propel us from access bowl talk to crazy playoff talk.

Also, you might be incorrect about Marshall. 9-2 Boise was ranked ahead of 11-0 Marshall in the official College Football Playoff poll. An undefeated Marshall MIGHT have gotten the access spot, but there were no shoe in.

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-14

I was at least a little concerned that the committee put a team with such a dreadful SOS in the top 25, undefeated or not. Especially after all of the noise they made about SOS. However, seeing a two loss G5 team ranked ahead of them made me feel better. I guess what the committee was saying is that an undefeated team with a horrid SOS is ranked slightly better than a 3loss Memphis team.

I would schedule Big12 Pac12 Big10 ACC as often as possible. We have played SEC since beginning of time and exactly what hs it gotten us? I'd say we got more out of our loss to UCLA last year that we have ever gotten out of beating Miss. Plenty of options, Duke series was more fun to me.

(09-28-2015 02:11 PM)memphomike Wrote:  I would schedule Big12 Pac12 Big10 ACC as often as possible. We have played SEC since beginning of time and exactly what hs it gotten us? I'd say we got more out of our loss to UCLA last year that we have ever gotten out of beating Miss. Plenty of options, Duke series was more fun to me.

I agree with you.

Growing up in Memphis it was always SEC this and SEC that. I say we get more national recognition playing Pac 12, Big 12, and Big 10 schools, and your UCLA example is right on imho.

This isn't to dodge strong SEC teams like Ole Miss, just a recognition that there are certainly equally strong programs in other parts of the country.