"Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

The LBGT movement is the most important civil rights movement this century and it's people like him that are standing in the way of tolerance and understanding. Transgender people are humans too and deserve equal treatment for who they are. If people can't get on board with that then they will be dealt with in time.

(09-26-2015 12:04 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

The LBGT movement is the most important civil rights movement this century and it's people like him that are standing in the way of tolerance and understanding. Transgender people are humans too and deserve equal treatment for who they are. If people can't get on board with that then they will be dealt with in time.

Special treatment does not equal equal treatment. I guess you are ok that a man that feels like a woman can go use the restroom right next to your 8 year old daughter?

(09-26-2015 12:04 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  The LBGT movement is the most important civil rights movement this century

It is?
Why?
What other civil rights movement is it more important than?

Lance Berkman is a bigot. He's also a liar

But lets not pretend to be surprised...Berkman is a member of the anti-gay Fellowship of "Christian" Bullies - I mean Athletes and is a frequent panderer on Pat Robertson's money grubbing "Charlatan" Broadcasting Network.

(09-26-2015 12:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lance Berkman is a bigot. He's also a liar

But lets not pretend to be surprised...Berkman is a member of the anti-gay Fellowship of "Christian" Bullies - I mean Athletes and is a frequent panderer on Pat Robertson's money grubbing "Charlatan" Broadcasting Network.

Why?

(09-26-2015 12:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lance Berkman is a bigot. He's also a liar

But lets not pretend to be surprised...Berkman is a member of the anti-gay Fellowship of "Christian" Bullies - I mean Athletes and is a frequent panderer on Pat Robertson's money grubbing "Charlatan" Broadcasting Network.

Saying something someone else does not like is not being a bully. Do you know what bully's look like? Check out the folks trying to get the government to shut down businesses because of the owers religious faith and obligation

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

Because he's a liar.

He knows that there has never been a case of a transgendered person (or anyone else) using bathroom access laws

AND THE LAW HE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE DOWN DOESN'T ADDRESS TRANSGENDERED BATHROOM ACCESS. Berkman knows that the voters of Houston are not going to vote down a law that says "no you can't fire all your Gay employees". But they might if you scare them and say that a man will rape your daughter if you vote for it.

Berkman is the 2015 version of the "Birth of a Nation"

(09-26-2015 12:31 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lance Berkman is a bigot. He's also a liar

But lets not pretend to be surprised...Berkman is a member of the anti-gay Fellowship of "Christian" Bullies - I mean Athletes and is a frequent panderer on Pat Robertson's money grubbing "Charlatan" Broadcasting Network.

Why?

Because the FCA is all about abusing people. And Pat Robertson is all about lying.

So combine the two...and you get

Lance Berkman, lies, and bigotry.

(09-26-2015 12:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lance Berkman is a bigot. He's also a liar

No, he disagrees with you on an issue.

You seem to be very big about requiring others who disagree with you on issues to tolerate your point of view, but not so big on your tolerating the viewpoints of others who disagree with you. Why is that?

Where does the Houston bill address Transgendered bathroom access?

Berkman is lying. And he knows it.

(09-26-2015 12:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lance Berkman is a bigot. He's also a liar

No, he disagrees with you on an issue.

You seem to be very big about requiring others who disagree with you on issues to tolerate your point of view, but not so big on your tolerating the viewpoints of others who disagree with you. Why is that?

Please point me to where the Houston bill addresses transgendered bathroom access?

Someone who would deliberately lie and call a group of people rapists in order to get people to support the legality firing all Gay persons from employment in Houston is a bigot IMHO.

This is "Birth of a Nation" type rhetoric. And just as bigoted.

(09-26-2015 12:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

Because he's a liar.

He knows that there has never been a case of a transgendered person (or anyone else) using bathroom access laws

AND THE LAW HE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE DOWN DOESN'T ADDRESS TRANSGENDERED BATHROOM ACCESS. Berkman knows that the voters of Houston are not going to vote down a law that says "no you can't fire all your Gay employees". But they might if you scare them and say that a man will rape your daughter if you vote for it.

Berkman is the 2015 version of the "Birth of a Nation"

It doesnt address bathroom access? What is a public accommodation then?

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 2, 15 AND 17 OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, HOUSTON, TEXAS, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS IN CITY EMPLOYMENT, CITY
SERVICES, CITY CONTRACTING PRACTICES, HOUSING, PUBLIC
ACCOMMODATIONS, AND PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT; CONTAINING FINDINGS AND
OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE FOREGOING SUBJECT; DECLARING
CERTAIN CONDUCT UNLAWFUL; PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

"Place of public accommodation means every business with a physical location in the city, whether wholesale or retail, which is open to the general public and offers for compensation any product, service, or facility. The term includes, but is not limited to, all hotels, motels, restaurants, bars, lounges, nightclubs or cabarets where food or beverages are sold or offered for sale, theaters, washaterias, bowling alleys, skating rinks, golf courses, and other places of public amusement, and all public conveyances, as well as the stations or terminals thereof."

http://www.houstontx.gov/equal_rights_ordinance.pdf

(09-26-2015 12:39 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 10:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "Lance Berkman, who played college ball at Rice before manning the outfield and first base for the Houston Astros, dodges high heat thrown by sports journalists outraged over his opposition to a spaced-out Space City law giving transsexual “women” access to the ladies’ room."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/2...bathrooms/

This debate is getting heated here in Houston.

He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

Because he's a liar.

He knows that there has never been a case of a transgendered person (or anyone else) using bathroom access laws

AND THE LAW HE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE DOWN DOESN'T ADDRESS TRANSGENDERED BATHROOM ACCESS. Berkman knows that the voters of Houston are not going to vote down a law that says "no you can't fire all your Gay employees". But they might if you scare them and say that a man will rape your daughter if you vote for it.

Berkman is the 2015 version of the "Birth of a Nation"

It doesnt address bathroom access? What is a public accommodation then?

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 2, 15 AND 17 OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, HOUSTON, TEXAS, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS IN CITY EMPLOYMENT, CITY
SERVICES, CITY CONTRACTING PRACTICES, HOUSING, PUBLIC
ACCOMMODATIONS, AND PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT; CONTAINING FINDINGS AND
OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE FOREGOING SUBJECT; DECLARING
CERTAIN CONDUCT UNLAWFUL; PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

http://www.houstontx.gov/equal_rights_ordinance.pdf

The provision requiring bathroom access was pulled from the bill. Because the religious right demanded it. So we gave them what they said they wanted. But they really want to fire every gay man from employment in Houston. That's the real goal of these bigots.

Many businesses aren't required to have public restrooms.

(09-26-2015 12:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:39 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:54 AM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  He is a bigot and I have lost all respect for him as an athlete and as a human being.

Why is he a bigot?

Because he's a liar.

He knows that there has never been a case of a transgendered person (or anyone else) using bathroom access laws

AND THE LAW HE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE DOWN DOESN'T ADDRESS TRANSGENDERED BATHROOM ACCESS. Berkman knows that the voters of Houston are not going to vote down a law that says "no you can't fire all your Gay employees". But they might if you scare them and say that a man will rape your daughter if you vote for it.

Berkman is the 2015 version of the "Birth of a Nation"

It doesnt address bathroom access? What is a public accommodation then?

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 2, 15 AND 17 OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, HOUSTON, TEXAS, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS IN CITY EMPLOYMENT, CITY
SERVICES, CITY CONTRACTING PRACTICES, HOUSING, PUBLIC
ACCOMMODATIONS, AND PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT; CONTAINING FINDINGS AND
OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE FOREGOING SUBJECT; DECLARING
CERTAIN CONDUCT UNLAWFUL; PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

http://www.houstontx.gov/equal_rights_ordinance.pdf

The provision requiring bathroom access was pulled from the bill.

You didnt answer my question, what is a public accommodation?

(09-26-2015 12:35 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Where does the Houston bill address Transgendered bathroom access?

Berkman is lying. And he knows it.

Proposition 1, would ban discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity—criteria not covered by federal anti-discrimination laws—especially "in city employment, city services, city contracting practices, housing, public accommodations, and private employment."

“public accommodations” are categories of businesses that serve the general public. If a business is covered by a public accommodations law, access to all facilities that are open to the public is covered by that law as well.

(09-26-2015 12:42 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:39 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 11:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Why is he a bigot?

Because he's a liar.

He knows that there has never been a case of a transgendered person (or anyone else) using bathroom access laws

AND THE LAW HE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE DOWN DOESN'T ADDRESS TRANSGENDERED BATHROOM ACCESS. Berkman knows that the voters of Houston are not going to vote down a law that says "no you can't fire all your Gay employees". But they might if you scare them and say that a man will rape your daughter if you vote for it.

Berkman is the 2015 version of the "Birth of a Nation"

It doesnt address bathroom access? What is a public accommodation then?

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 2, 15 AND 17 OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, HOUSTON, TEXAS, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS IN CITY EMPLOYMENT, CITY
SERVICES, CITY CONTRACTING PRACTICES, HOUSING, PUBLIC
ACCOMMODATIONS, AND PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT; CONTAINING FINDINGS AND
OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE FOREGOING SUBJECT; DECLARING
CERTAIN CONDUCT UNLAWFUL; PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

http://www.houstontx.gov/equal_rights_ordinance.pdf

The provision requiring bathroom access was pulled from the bill.

You didnt answer my question, what is a public accommodation?

Serving everyone equally, without discrimination in employment. if you provide a service to some, you must provide it to all. But it doesn't require you to provide a service.

(09-26-2015 12:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:42 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:39 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-26-2015 12:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Because he's a liar.

He knows that there has never been a case of a transgendered person (or anyone else) using bathroom access laws

AND THE LAW HE IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE DOWN DOESN'T ADDRESS TRANSGENDERED BATHROOM ACCESS. Berkman knows that the voters of Houston are not going to vote down a law that says "no you can't fire all your Gay employees". But they might if you scare them and say that a man will rape your daughter if you vote for it.

Berkman is the 2015 version of the "Birth of a Nation"

It doesnt address bathroom access? What is a public accommodation then?

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 2, 15 AND 17 OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES, HOUSTON, TEXAS, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF PROTECTED CHARACTERISTICS IN CITY EMPLOYMENT, CITY
SERVICES, CITY CONTRACTING PRACTICES, HOUSING, PUBLIC
ACCOMMODATIONS, AND PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT; CONTAINING FINDINGS AND
OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE FOREGOING SUBJECT; DECLARING
CERTAIN CONDUCT UNLAWFUL; PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

http://www.houstontx.gov/equal_rights_ordinance.pdf

The provision requiring bathroom access was pulled from the bill.

You didnt answer my question, what is a public accommodation?

Serving everyone equally, without discrimination in employment. if you provide a service to some, you must provide it to all. But it doesn't require you to provide a service.

So restrooms dont fall under public accommodation?

"Place of public accommodation means every business with a physical location in the city, whether wholesale or retail, which is open to the general public and offers for compensation any product, service, or facility. The term includes, but is not limited to, all hotels, motels, restaurants, bars, lounges, nightclubs or cabarets where food or beverages are sold or offered for sale, theaters, washaterias, bowling alleys, skating rinks, golf courses, and other places of public amusement, and all public conveyances, as well as the stations or terminals thereof."