(09-20-2015 09:08 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 06:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-18-2015 11:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-18-2015 08:04 PM)FargoBison Wrote:  The big obstacle is Title IX, that was a major issue with UNO. Which resulted in them getting rid of football, obviously that isn't on the table for UNA.

Hmm. Omaha had almost the exact same sports mix as NDSU, with the exception that they also had of mens hockey. Omaha dropped football and wrestling because of a stated reason of Title IX, but NDSU didnt do a damn thing to comply with Title IX which was made worse because of the additional football scholarships.

The Summit League almost certainly made adding mens soccer and dropping football and wrestling a condition of acceptance. The Summit League needs more baseball and men's soccer teams to survive, and SDSU and NDSU absolutely hate the idea of of Summit Football league with Omaha and North Dakota, so they killed Omaha football to get votes on acceptance.

Keep pretending NDSU was/is out of Title IX compliance.

Maybe if you post it in 100 different threads ... the Title IX fairy will leave a subpoena under your pillow?


Summit made no such demands on Omaha. NDSU and SDSU have no such desires.

Keep living in dreamland with all the other bizon rubes. A school with 54% male enrollment with less than 33% female athletes and worse in scholarships can't be in Title IX compliance, even under the interests and aptitudes prong. Bizon rubes insist they meet NCAA requirements - but fail to acknowledge Title IX is enforced by the federal government.

Where's the lawsuit, then?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.


The only one who sees anything wrong ... is you. Have fun in your own world.

How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

(09-22-2015 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

If you use the strict proportionality test, I'd imagine very few schools are in compliance. When WKU joined the Sun Belt for football, they actually were out of compliance and used the upgrade to achieve it - WKU was offering too few scholarships to men.

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

(09-22-2015 07:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

(09-22-2015 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

(09-22-2015 10:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 01:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How did this went from North Alabama to North Dakota State's Title 9 issues?

Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

Any complaint by women's club teams in lax, hockey, equestrian, tennis, etc and NDSU will be facing a lawsuit. Stay in denial mode. That's the NDSU way.

(09-22-2015 11:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

Any complaint by women's club teams in lax, hockey, equestrian, tennis, etc and NDSU will be facing a lawsuit. Stay in denial mode. That's the NDSU way.

NDSU offers more than just what the NCAA recognize sports. College rodeo have scholarships.

(09-23-2015 12:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

Any complaint by women's club teams in lax, hockey, equestrian, tennis, etc and NDSU will be facing a lawsuit. Stay in denial mode. That's the NDSU way.

NDSU offers more than just what the NCAA recognize sports. College rodeo have scholarships.

For men.

(09-23-2015 12:13 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-23-2015 12:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

Any complaint by women's club teams in lax, hockey, equestrian, tennis, etc and NDSU will be facing a lawsuit. Stay in denial mode. That's the NDSU way.

NDSU offers more than just what the NCAA recognize sports. College rodeo have scholarships.

For men.

They have barrel racers on the team, plus the students who are in Vet and agriculture helps take care of the livestock that are used. There is more behind the scenes as well with the sport.

(09-23-2015 12:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-23-2015 12:13 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-23-2015 12:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 11:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

Any complaint by women's club teams in lax, hockey, equestrian, tennis, etc and NDSU will be facing a lawsuit. Stay in denial mode. That's the NDSU way.

NDSU offers more than just what the NCAA recognize sports. College rodeo have scholarships.

For men.

They have barrel racers on the team, plus the students who are in Vet and agriculture helps take care of the livestock that are used. There is more behind the scenes as well with the sport.

NDSU does not have a vet program. As posted above, women's equestrian could have been offered, as they have the barns, horses, women, and interest to do it, but they haven't. SDSU added equestrian when they went DI because SDakota law is stricter than US Title IX.

(09-22-2015 11:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 10:02 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 07:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Title IX isn't that big of an issue, even when moving to FCS. NDSU showed that, as they didn't add women's sports to compensate for more football scholarships.

Hopefully everyone here realizes that you wouldn't know a case of actual Title IX noncompliance if it sat on your face.

Minnesota just had the Feds raiding their athletic facility and they almost have a strict proportionality for M / F.

Because someone raised a formal complaint to the OCR.

Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

Any complaint by women's club teams in lax, hockey, equestrian, tennis, etc and NDSU will be facing a lawsuit. Stay in denial mode. That's the NDSU way.

And if snows in July, Santa Claus will land on University Ave and sing Christmas Songs until midnight.



Where's the complaint against NDSU's athletic department?

Patently evident that females enrolled at NDSU perceive no lack of opportunities to participate in athletics, whether that be at the varsity, club, intramural or recreational level.

Thus, by definition, NDSU is in compliance.

(09-16-2015 02:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UAH wants to go the DI basketball/hockey route?

I'm sure Alabama will love that.

Alabama A&M does not have a serious athletics program. UAH already has DI hockey and basketball isn't a stretch. Huntsville needs a true DI programs.

UNA needs an Alabama rival in the ASun.

What's a "serious" athletic program?

(09-16-2015 03:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UAH wants to go the DI basketball/hockey route?

I'm sure Alabama will love that.

Alabama A&M does not have a serious athletics program. UAH already has DI hockey and basketball isn't a stretch. Huntsville needs a true DI programs.

UNA needs an Alabama rival in the ASun.

Tuskegee wants D1 as well, and they are in Alabama as well.

Tuskegee doesn't want D1, D1(SWAC & MEAC) wants Tuskegee. Skegee folks for the most part are happy in the SIAC. For Tuskegee to even entertain moving they would have to add sports and improve facilities.

Stillman College may be more interested in DI, but I'm not sure they've been DII long enough.

(09-16-2015 02:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UAH wants to go the DI basketball/hockey route?

I'm sure Alabama will love that.

Alabama A&M does not have a serious athletics program. UAH already has DI hockey and basketball isn't a stretch. Huntsville needs a true DI programs.

UNA needs an Alabama rival in the ASun.

I didn't even realize A&M was that far north. Was thinking around Birmingham, for some reason.

UAH already has DI hockey, as you said. Are people in Huntsville starved for non-HBCU, low-major, DI basketball?



I'd be curious to know how much it costs, just in upgrades to total scholarships and minimum number of sports sponsored, to go from a non-fb DII to a non-fb DI.

Probably would be fairly minimal cost, if UAH didn't have to add any sports or make any facility updates.

A&M usually plays their largest games in Birmingham including the largest game in FCS(The Magic City Classic). The bulk of A&Ms fans on game day come from the Birmingham area and about 1 out if 4 people on their campus are also from the Birmingham area. You can pick a spot in 65 north around Cullman on Friday evenings/Saturday mornings and watch the amount of A&M flags traveling north on game days.

(09-25-2015 06:47 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UAH wants to go the DI basketball/hockey route?

I'm sure Alabama will love that.

Alabama A&M does not have a serious athletics program. UAH already has DI hockey and basketball isn't a stretch. Huntsville needs a true DI programs.

UNA needs an Alabama rival in the ASun.

I didn't even realize A&M was that far north. Was thinking around Birmingham, for some reason.

UAH already has DI hockey, as you said. Are people in Huntsville starved for non-HBCU, low-major, DI basketball?



I'd be curious to know how much it costs, just in upgrades to total scholarships and minimum number of sports sponsored, to go from a non-fb DII to a non-fb DI.

Probably would be fairly minimal cost, if UAH didn't have to add any sports or make any facility updates.

A&M usually plays their largest games in Birmingham including the largest game in FCS(The Magic City Classic). The bulk of A&Ms fans on game day come from the Birmingham area and about 1 out if 4 people on their campus are also from the Birmingham area. You can pick a spot in 65 north around Cullman on Friday evenings/Saturday mornings and watch the amount of A&M flags traveling north on game days.

0?

Okay okay... I'll be nice.

2 or 3?

The game in Bham is big, but that is one game. I can't think of any time when there is any really obvious public outpouring of support for either school. Living in Montgomery seeing an Alabama State flag is rare.

(09-25-2015 06:41 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 03:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UAH wants to go the DI basketball/hockey route?

I'm sure Alabama will love that.

Alabama A&M does not have a serious athletics program. UAH already has DI hockey and basketball isn't a stretch. Huntsville needs a true DI programs.

UNA needs an Alabama rival in the ASun.

Tuskegee wants D1 as well, and they are in Alabama as well.

Tuskegee doesn't want D1, D1(SWAC & MEAC) wants Tuskegee. Skegee folks for the most part are happy in the SIAC. For Tuskegee to even entertain moving they would have to add sports and improve facilities.

Tuskegee said in a local paper that they are doing a feasibility study to go to D1 a couple of years ago. Tuskegee and Alabama State is one of the popular selling games in HBCUs in the country. It is more like on the lower end of the FBS type crowds. They could go into the SWAC. Langston is making plans to move from NAIA to D2, and maybe go to D1 after 8 years. SWAC could go to 12.

Would the A-Sun and Big South do a merger with the Gulf South Conference? Half the schools go to the Big South and the other half go to A-Sun. Delta State can go to the Southland since they fit better there.

(09-25-2015 09:50 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-25-2015 06:47 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 02:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  UAH wants to go the DI basketball/hockey route?

I'm sure Alabama will love that.

Alabama A&M does not have a serious athletics program. UAH already has DI hockey and basketball isn't a stretch. Huntsville needs a true DI programs.

UNA needs an Alabama rival in the ASun.

I didn't even realize A&M was that far north. Was thinking around Birmingham, for some reason.

UAH already has DI hockey, as you said. Are people in Huntsville starved for non-HBCU, low-major, DI basketball?



I'd be curious to know how much it costs, just in upgrades to total scholarships and minimum number of sports sponsored, to go from a non-fb DII to a non-fb DI.

Probably would be fairly minimal cost, if UAH didn't have to add any sports or make any facility updates.

A&M usually plays their largest games in Birmingham including the largest game in FCS(The Magic City Classic). The bulk of A&Ms fans on game day come from the Birmingham area and about 1 out if 4 people on their campus are also from the Birmingham area. You can pick a spot in 65 north around Cullman on Friday evenings/Saturday mornings and watch the amount of A&M flags traveling north on game days.

0?

Okay okay... I'll be nice.

2 or 3?

The game in Bham is big, but that is one game. I can't think of any time when there is any really obvious public outpouring of support for either school. Living in Montgomery seeing an Alabama State flag is rare.

Amongst the black population in Birmingham A&M/State are THE schools. I graduated from Bama State so I'm not sure where you hanging in Montgomery not see any ASU flags and gear.