(09-09-2015 09:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is only one party that I know of that makes church attendance a priority.

Are you honestly ignorant of the Dems and their practice of open campaigning in churches? the dems always have to go out to Black churches to tell parishioners that the other guys want to put them in chains.

"In Philadelphia, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) campaigned for Kerry in two black churches, telling the congregations that "the heart and soul of the African American community comes alive in worship." At each stop, he delivered a message that sought to tap both the spiritual and political connection between blacks and the Democratic Party and, more specifically, the Kennedy brand of liberalism."

"Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) started his day at Allen Temple African Methodist Episcopal Church in Cincinnati, where the Democratic vice presidential nominee urged "record turnout" on Nov. 2 and asked the congregation to consider the impact the next president might have on the Supreme Court. His wife, Elizabeth, attended services at Mount Ararat Baptist Church in Pittsburgh."

Quote:If their guy doesn't go it's their problem. I"m sure they will make the appropriate excuses.

If the GOP could nominate a Mormon then it's pretty clear they don't require their guy go to their church.

(09-09-2015 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 09:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is only one party that I know of that makes church attendance a priority.

Are you honestly ignorant of the Dems and their practice of open campaigning in churches? the dems always have to go out to Black churches to tell parishioners that the other guys want to put them in chains.

"In Philadelphia, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) campaigned for Kerry in two black churches, telling the congregations that "the heart and soul of the African American community comes alive in worship." At each stop, he delivered a message that sought to tap both the spiritual and political connection between blacks and the Democratic Party and, more specifically, the Kennedy brand of liberalism."

"Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) started his day at Allen Temple African Methodist Episcopal Church in Cincinnati, where the Democratic vice presidential nominee urged "record turnout" on Nov. 2 and asked the congregation to consider the impact the next president might have on the Supreme Court. His wife, Elizabeth, attended services at Mount Ararat Baptist Church in Pittsburgh."

Quote:If their guy doesn't go it's their problem. I"m sure they will make the appropriate excuses.

If the GOP could nominate a Mormon then it's pretty clear they don't require their guy go to their church.

Mormon's don't go to church?

(09-09-2015 12:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 09:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is only one party that I know of that makes church attendance a priority.

Are you honestly ignorant of the Dems and their practice of open campaigning in churches? the dems always have to go out to Black churches to tell parishioners that the other guys want to put them in chains.

"In Philadelphia, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) campaigned for Kerry in two black churches, telling the congregations that "the heart and soul of the African American community comes alive in worship." At each stop, he delivered a message that sought to tap both the spiritual and political connection between blacks and the Democratic Party and, more specifically, the Kennedy brand of liberalism."

"Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) started his day at Allen Temple African Methodist Episcopal Church in Cincinnati, where the Democratic vice presidential nominee urged "record turnout" on Nov. 2 and asked the congregation to consider the impact the next president might have on the Supreme Court. His wife, Elizabeth, attended services at Mount Ararat Baptist Church in Pittsburgh."

Quote:If their guy doesn't go it's their problem. I"m sure they will make the appropriate excuses.

If the GOP could nominate a Mormon then it's pretty clear they don't require their guy go to their church.

Mormon's don't go to church?

Not a Christian Church.... I'm sure many of the churches the democrats frequent at campaign time are Christian.

(09-09-2015 12:32 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 12:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 09:58 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 09:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is only one party that I know of that makes church attendance a priority.

Are you honestly ignorant of the Dems and their practice of open campaigning in churches? the dems always have to go out to Black churches to tell parishioners that the other guys want to put them in chains.

"In Philadelphia, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) campaigned for Kerry in two black churches, telling the congregations that "the heart and soul of the African American community comes alive in worship." At each stop, he delivered a message that sought to tap both the spiritual and political connection between blacks and the Democratic Party and, more specifically, the Kennedy brand of liberalism."

"Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) started his day at Allen Temple African Methodist Episcopal Church in Cincinnati, where the Democratic vice presidential nominee urged "record turnout" on Nov. 2 and asked the congregation to consider the impact the next president might have on the Supreme Court. His wife, Elizabeth, attended services at Mount Ararat Baptist Church in Pittsburgh."

Quote:If their guy doesn't go it's their problem. I"m sure they will make the appropriate excuses.

If the GOP could nominate a Mormon then it's pretty clear they don't require their guy go to their church.

Mormon's don't go to church?

Not a Christian Church.... I'm sure many of the churches the democrats frequent at campaign time are Christian.

Now I"m really confused. I thought Mormon's were Christian.

Mormons think they are the only true believers. What they believe is incompatible with what Protestants and Catholics believe. The Mormon bible adds verses (most notably in Genesis), and there is a separate Book of Mormon as well.

(09-09-2015 01:38 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Mormons think they are the only true believers. What they believe is incompatible with what Protestants and Catholics believe. The Mormon bible adds verses (most notably in Genesis), and there is a separate Book of Mormon as well.

My understanding was that by definition, anyone who believes Jesus was the Messiah was Christian.

(09-09-2015 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Now I"m really confused.

A feeling that I think you would be used to by now...

Quote:I thought Mormon's were Christian.

They deny the trinity and could not honestly speak the nicean creed. Not to mention at the outset of their faith they disavowed Christians.

They wrote their own book and put it above the Bible as a source of truth

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book," -- Joseph Smith

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

(09-09-2015 01:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:38 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Mormons think they are the only true believers. What they believe is incompatible with what Protestants and Catholics believe. The Mormon bible adds verses (most notably in Genesis), and there is a separate Book of Mormon as well.

My understanding was that by definition, anyone who believes Jesus was the Messiah was Christian.

Satan believes Jesus is the Messiah it does not make him a Christian.

Also you should note that the word Messiah does not mean "God" in the way Christians Consider Jesus to be part of a triune God. It just means "savior".

(09-09-2015 01:46 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Now I"m really confused.

A feeling that I think you would be used to by now...

Quote:I thought Mormon's were Christian.

They deny the trinity and could not honestly speak the nicean creed. Not to mention at the outset of their faith they disavowed Christians.

They wrote their own book and put it above the Bible as a source of truth

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book," -- Joseph Smith

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

I know a lot of "born again Christians" that deny the trinity. Am I supposed to believe that they aren't Christian also?

(09-09-2015 02:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:46 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Now I"m really confused.

A feeling that I think you would be used to by now...

Quote:I thought Mormon's were Christian.

They deny the trinity and could not honestly speak the nicean creed. Not to mention at the outset of their faith they disavowed Christians.

They wrote their own book and put it above the Bible as a source of truth

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book," -- Joseph Smith

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

I know a lot of "born again Christians" that deny the trinity. Am I supposed to believe that they aren't Christian also?

Which Born again Denominations deny the Trinity?

(09-09-2015 03:12 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 02:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:46 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Now I"m really confused.

A feeling that I think you would be used to by now...

Quote:I thought Mormon's were Christian.

They deny the trinity and could not honestly speak the nicean creed. Not to mention at the outset of their faith they disavowed Christians.

They wrote their own book and put it above the Bible as a source of truth

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book," -- Joseph Smith

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

I know a lot of "born again Christians" that deny the trinity. Am I supposed to believe that they aren't Christian also?

Which Born again Denominations deny the Trinity?

Probably many of the 30,000 or so so-called "born-again" denominations.

You should read the Book of Mormon, Fit. It's quite a fairy tale. It would make a good movie ala Avatar.

(09-09-2015 03:57 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 03:12 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 02:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:46 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Now I"m really confused.

A feeling that I think you would be used to by now...

Quote:I thought Mormon's were Christian.

They deny the trinity and could not honestly speak the nicean creed. Not to mention at the outset of their faith they disavowed Christians.

They wrote their own book and put it above the Bible as a source of truth

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book," -- Joseph Smith

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

I know a lot of "born again Christians" that deny the trinity. Am I supposed to believe that they aren't Christian also?

Which Born again Denominations deny the Trinity?

Probably many of the 30,000 or so so-called "born-again" denominations.

I've never seen a list of "born-again" denominations