Former 4 star recruit that originally signed with UNC & chose ECU over UGA & KSU as a JUCO. One of the best Dual threat prospects nationally and word on the street is that he looked better than anticipated today in practice. I would be surprised if he gets the nod right off the bat but it seems like he will at least be getting some snaps on Saturday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...ers-118562

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ank-2884/0

http://247sports.com/Player/James-Summers-7433

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footba...es-summers

Highlights below

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3328603/high...0963375/v2

Let me quote myself from another thread...

(08-29-2015 05:52 PM)Chappy Wrote:  If Summers is truly practicing with the team, I would not be surprised if he was the starter by the Navy game. Wasn't he one of the top 10 QBs in the country when he committed to UNC?

Nice! Will be interesting between Kemp, Keith, and Summers. We will have some teams guessing which will help the surprise factor. You could probably have each play at least 1 Q vs Towson similar to NFL Preseason to see who surfaces to the top though planning for Florida will be completely different the following week.

3 year old football high school rankings are pointless at this point and no one really even recruited the guy at QB. He didn't complete 50% of his passes in JUCO and threw an interception at about the same rate as a TD last year. That's with them barely throwing the ball.

96-199 (48%) 14td's and 12ints, 169 yards passing per game.

You need accuracy in this system a lot more than you need to be able to run. Not sure he's the answer knowing how much we throw the ball and needing to know where to go with it. Feels like a similar situation with Dwayne Harris who was a highly rated QB and probably more gifted than Patrick Pinkney. Didn't mean he was the answer.

Huh? How have I not even heard of this kid? Was he a late addition?

Yeah I think some fans are just grasping at anything that might look like salvation. A few months ago everyone was saying great athlete but he won't even get a look at qb, though circumstances have obviously changed this.

Ecu board

(08-31-2015 07:44 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  Yeah I think some fans are just grasping at anything that might look like salvation. A few months ago everyone was saying great athlete but he won't even get a look at qb, though circumstances have obviously changed this.

Apparently it's just no one wants to see the JUCO QB that threw for 375 yards a game at 65% and that's been here a year learning the system already or the 5th year senior who actually been on the field and could probably recite the playbook backwards. Instead they look to the savior in a guy that just was cleared to practice Thursday and that was unimpressive in JUCO's

I think ecu will still contend for the East this year. You have a very good offensive system. I probably wasn't paying attention but the system is expected to remain the same under the new OC since he was promoted right? Whoever the quarterback is I expect the game plan to be tailored to their strengths. If I recall correctly the offensive line is expected to be good this year which will definitely help. May have to rely a little more on the running game this year. But it seems like that won't be an issue as I believe y'all have quite a few very talented backs.

Looking forward to the game in Orlando this year. I'm sure you guys will want some revenge after we stole that one last year.

(08-31-2015 08:12 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  I think ecu will still contend for the East this year. Its a good system. I probably wasn't paying attention but the system is expected to remain the same under the new OC since he was promoted right? Whoever the quarterback is I expect the game plan to be tailored to their strengths. If I recall correctly the offensive line is expected to be good this year which will definitely help. May have to rely a little more on the running game this year. But it seems like that won't be an issue as I believe y'all have quite a few very talented backs.

The new OC grew up in the Texas Tech system and was actually the one who taught it to Lincoln Riley. It will stay the same.

(08-31-2015 08:12 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  I think ecu will still contend for the East this year. Its a good system. I probably wasn't paying attention but the system is expected to remain the same under the new OC since he was promoted right? Whoever the quarterback is I expect the game plan to be tailored to their strengths. If I recall correctly the offensive line is expected to be good this year which will definitely help. May have to rely a little more on the running game this year. But it seems like that won't be an issue as I believe y'all have quite a few very talented backs.

This. If Nichols runs the system anything like Riley I expect whoever we put back there has success. That's what air raid QB's do, even lesser talented ones. It's not like Carden or any of the Texas Tech QB's ever had NFL abilities or anything despite putting up all kind of all time numbers. Some of our fans even want to change the system for whatever reason. If it aint broke don't fix it.

(08-31-2015 07:32 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  3 year old football high school rankings are pointless at this point and no one really even recruited the guy at QB. He didn't complete 50% of his passes in JUCO and threw an interception at about the same rate as a TD last year. That's with them barely throwing the ball.

96-199 (48%) 14td's and 12ints, 169 yards passing per game.

You need accuracy in this system a lot more than you need to be able to run. Not sure he's the answer knowing how much we throw the ball and needing to know where to go with it. Feels like a similar situation with Dwayne Harris who was a highly rated QB and probably more gifted than Patrick Pinkney. Didn't mean he was the answer.

Very possible he never makes it as a QB. But keep in mind that Dominique Davis only completed 45% of his passes and had 6 TD to 4 INT at Boston College and then flourished in our system. It could be Summers wasn't a fit in the system his JuCo ran. I'm just glad to have another QB on the roster with Benkert out for the year.

(08-31-2015 07:51 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Ecu board

Nah, you'll need to know about these things for prepping for the Championship game.

Competition breeds success

(08-31-2015 08:21 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(08-31-2015 07:32 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  3 year old football high school rankings are pointless at this point and no one really even recruited the guy at QB. He didn't complete 50% of his passes in JUCO and threw an interception at about the same rate as a TD last year. That's with them barely throwing the ball.

96-199 (48%) 14td's and 12ints, 169 yards passing per game.

You need accuracy in this system a lot more than you need to be able to run. Not sure he's the answer knowing how much we throw the ball and needing to know where to go with it. Feels like a similar situation with Dwayne Harris who was a highly rated QB and probably more gifted than Patrick Pinkney. Didn't mean he was the answer.

Very possible he never makes it as a QB. But keep in mind that Dominique Davis only completed 45% of his passes and had 6 TD to 4 INT at Boston College and then flourished in our system. It could be Summers wasn't a fit in the system his JuCo ran. I'm just glad to have another QB on the roster with Benkert out for the year.

I'm well aware of that. I'm also aware the ACC is not the level of JUCO he was playing at.

Heck Davis was starting in the ACC championship game against Virginia Tech which most of his actual passing. Most QB's would look bad statistically if VT in the championship game is 35 to 40% of their passing stats and then in a bowl game as well vs an SEC team.

(08-31-2015 07:43 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  Huh? How have I not even heard of this kid? Was he a late addition?

Yeah, late last week.

Here's a piece about his path to ECU

(08-30-2015 11:09 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Former 4 star recruit that originally signed with UNC & chose ECU over UGA & KSU as a JUCO. One of the best Dual threat prospects nationally and word on the street is that he looked better than anticipated today in practice. I would be surprised if he gets the nod right off the bat but it seems like he will at least be getting some snaps on Saturday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...ers-118562

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ank-2884/0

http://247sports.com/Player/James-Summers-7433

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footba...es-summers

Highlights below

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3328603/high...0963375/v2

LOL here we go.....


ECU fans are amazing. So the heisman back up you had goes down and now you pull a future NFL hall of famer out of nowhere. How do you guys do it!?!? Amazing!!!!!

ECU fans be like:



IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!?

(08-31-2015 08:38 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-30-2015 11:09 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Former 4 star recruit that originally signed with UNC & chose ECU over UGA & KSU as a JUCO. One of the best Dual threat prospects nationally and word on the street is that he looked better than anticipated today in practice. I would be surprised if he gets the nod right off the bat but it seems like he will at least be getting some snaps on Saturday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiti...ers-118562

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...ank-2884/0

http://247sports.com/Player/James-Summers-7433

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/footba...es-summers

Highlights below

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3328603/high...0963375/v2

LOL here we go.....


ECU fans are amazing. So the heisman back up you had goes down and now you pull a future NFL hall of famer out of nowhere. How do you guys do it!?!? Amazing!!!!!

To be fair, Summers just enrolled, so we didn't know we were going to have him.

(08-31-2015 08:16 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(08-31-2015 08:12 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  I think ecu will still contend for the East this year. Its a good system. I probably wasn't paying attention but the system is expected to remain the same under the new OC since he was promoted right? Whoever the quarterback is I expect the game plan to be tailored to their strengths. If I recall correctly the offensive line is expected to be good this year which will definitely help. May have to rely a little more on the running game this year. But it seems like that won't be an issue as I believe y'all have quite a few very talented backs.

This. If Nichols runs the system anything like Riley I expect whoever we put back there has success. That's what air raid QB's do, even lesser talented ones. It's not like Carden or any of the Texas Tech QB's ever had NFL abilities or anything despite putting up all kind of all time numbers. Some of our fans even want to change the system for whatever reason. If it aint broke don't fix it.

people say this all the time basing it off the logic that its supposedly easier to run but the reality is that air raid teams are one of the most up and down teams

Baylor is the closest thing that switches qb and never loses a step and the philosophical difference between a true air raid and what he runs are very different

if you really look at it the teams that never fall off are running teams...air raid qb always put up big numbers but win differential always varies among the qb