(08-14-2015 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:15 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

But I thought black people always vote for black people?

No one ever said that......EVER

But blacks do always vote for Democrats, no matter their views, race, religion, background, etc.

And why do you think that is? Why do black people vote for democrats overwhelmingly?

A combination of free stuff & ignorance as to their actual policies?

(08-14-2015 12:39 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:15 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

But I thought black people always vote for black people?

No one ever said that......EVER

But blacks do always vote for Democrats, no matter their views, race, religion, background, etc.

And why do you think that is? Why do black people vote for democrats overwhelmingly?

A combination of free stuff & ignorance as to their actual policies?

So black people somehow like free stuff and are more ignorant than other races?

Interesting.

Why do you think that is?

(08-14-2015 12:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:39 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:15 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  But I thought black people always vote for black people?

No one ever said that......EVER

But blacks do always vote for Democrats, no matter their views, race, religion, background, etc.

And why do you think that is? Why do black people vote for democrats overwhelmingly?

A combination of free stuff & ignorance as to their actual policies?

So black people somehow like free stuff and are more ignorant than other races?

Interesting.

Why do you think that is?

No, like I said earlier, MOST democrats are ignorant of actual democrat policies and how they affect people. Not just black people. YOU asked why black people vote democrat. The same reason most democrats vote that way.

Also, we see what happens to black folks who "come out" as conservative and not "down for the struggle." They get crucified.

(08-14-2015 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:15 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 11:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

But I thought black people always vote for black people?

No one ever said that......EVER

But blacks do always vote for Democrats, no matter their views, race, religion, background, etc.

And why do you think that is? Why do black people vote for democrats overwhelmingly?

Empty promises. The vilification of the right. Plantation mentality. "It's what they've always done." The ostracizing and hate of any black that dare deviate from the one benevolent party (social pressure). The "they're going to take all your stuff!" rhetoric.

(08-14-2015 12:47 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:39 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:15 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No one ever said that......EVER

But blacks do always vote for Democrats, no matter their views, race, religion, background, etc.

And why do you think that is? Why do black people vote for democrats overwhelmingly?

A combination of free stuff & ignorance as to their actual policies?

So black people somehow like free stuff and are more ignorant than other races?

Interesting.

Why do you think that is?

No, like I said earlier, MOST democrats are ignorant of actual democrat policies and how they affect people. Not just black people. YOU asked why black people vote democrat. The same reason most democrats vote that way.

Also, we see what happens to black folks who "come out" as conservative and not "down for the struggle." They get crucified.

What makes you think democrats are more ignorant? Aren't democrats generally more educated than republicans?


A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation
Sharp Differences by Race, Gender, Generation, Education

Democrats hold advantages in party identification among blacks, Asians, Hispanics, well-educated adults and Millennials. Republicans have leads among whites – particularly white men, those with less education and evangelical Protestants – as well as members of the Silent Generation.

(08-14-2015 07:39 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidenti...questions/

wow, a presidential candidate that actually answers questions, and gives detailed plans on what he would do if in office...will have no shot at getting elected.

Sorry.

(08-14-2015 09:11 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Ben Carson kicks arse. Too bad he could never win the nomination because he's black.

Republicans don't care what color our candidate is. We just want the damage Obama has inflicted to be undone.

Conversely, Democrats elected Obama BECAUSE of what color he is.

You keep saying that...yet there is zero evidence of it. There's probably a word that describes that type of thinking.

(08-14-2015 11:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  My only real problem with Carson is the Seventh Day Adventist affiliation. It is though not a deal breaker with me. He has good ideas and seems genuinely to be a fine man...so he will have no shot at getting elected.

Sorry.

(08-14-2015 12:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

He use to be idolized by the black left. I would be willing to bet that most of his book sales in the 90's were from the black left.

Until word got out that he was an evil, racist Republican.

No...just when he started to speak and make a fool of himself.

Case in point:
Another Dopey Remark from Dr. Ben Carson

(08-14-2015 04:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

He use to be idolized by the black left. I would be willing to bet that most of his book sales in the 90's were from the black left.

Until word got out that he was an evil, racist Republican.

No...just when he started to speak and make a fool of himself.

Case in point:
Another Dopey Remark from Dr. Ben Carson

Why are these comments deal breakers for Dr. Carson, but HRC actions as Sec. State irrelevant?

Homosexual IS a choice.

(08-14-2015 11:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Homosexual IS a choice.

now we know you think you are behavioral expert simply b/c you say so.....

thank you captain genius of the dung beetle clan....

(08-14-2015 07:28 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 04:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:30 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 12:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

He use to be idolized by the black left. I would be willing to bet that most of his book sales in the 90's were from the black left.

Until word got out that he was an evil, racist Republican.

No...just when he started to speak and make a fool of himself.

Case in point:
Another Dopey Remark from Dr. Ben Carson

Why are these comments deal breakers for Dr. Carson, but HRC actions as Sec. State irrelevant?

b/c they don't have a choice.....their only choice lies within the lies of promoting synergism (the lie of lies)

I choose to view them as jisim on her face...it applies to both sides at times....just leans left where the eye patch should be....

crude it is.....as are they....can't fix their fix.....there is no incentive on their side other than survival....

(08-14-2015 09:46 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:31 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 09:11 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 08:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Ben Carson kicks arse. Too bad he could never win the nomination because he's black.

Republicans don't care what color our candidate is. We just want the damage Obama has inflicted to be undone.

Conversely, Democrats elected Obama BECAUSE of what color he is.

So if Been Carson ran as a Democrat, he would win? LMFAO

If it had been Ben Carson vs Hillary Clinton in the Primary? I'd say he'd have gotten 90%+ of the black vote.

Most Democrat voters don't even know their own party's platform, outside a few talking points and outright lies. So, Carson could've said whatever he wanted and the sheep would have followed.

FRom what I have read on this board you are absolutely right! If Carson was the GOP presidential nominee he would get all of the minority and white liberal vote along with the GOP vote.. It would be a 50 state sweep! I just cannot understand why the GOP voters and establishment have not consolidated around him?

I don't think Carson gets 90% of the black vote against Hillary. But he very well gets 30-40%. And if he gets 30-40% and holds the base, he wins.

(08-15-2015 01:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I don't think Carson gets 90% of the black vote against Hillary. But he very well gets 30-40%. And if he gets 30-40% and holds the base, he wins.

But he won't even get the nomination. Conservatives won't vote for a black guy.

(08-15-2015 02:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 01:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I don't think Carson gets 90% of the black vote against Hillary. But he very well gets 30-40%. And if he gets 30-40% and holds the base, he wins.

But he won't even get the nomination. Conservatives won't vote for a black guy.

Signed,

All these black Republicans

Senator Blanche Bruce - (MS)
Senator Edward Brooke - (MA)
Congressman Gary Franks - (CT)
Congressman J.C. Watts - (OK)
Congressman Tim Scott - (SC)
Congressman Allen West - (FL)
Congressman Will Hurd - (TX)
Congresswoman Mia Love -(UT)

There were also a good number in the 30's - 60's that were Democrats that, as you know, was the conservative party in those days. But I know you only count the party and not the actual political leaning.

My point is simple - YOU ARE WRONG.

As usual.

(08-15-2015 03:02 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 02:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 01:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I don't think Carson gets 90% of the black vote against Hillary. But he very well gets 30-40%. And if he gets 30-40% and holds the base, he wins.

But he won't even get the nomination. Conservatives won't vote for a black guy.

Signed,

All these black Republicans

Senator Blanche Bruce - (MS)
Senator Edward Brooke - (MA)
Congressman Gary Franks - (CT)
Congressman J.C. Watts - (OK)
Congressman Tim Scott - (SC)
Congressman Allen West - (FL)
Congressman Will Hurd - (TX)
Congresswoman Mia Love -(UT)

There were also a good number in the 30's - 60's that were Democrats that, as you know, was the conservative party in those days. But I know you only count the party and not the actual political leaning.

My point is simple - YOU ARE WRONG.

As usual.

So are you saying Carson will get the nomination?

(08-14-2015 11:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-14-2015 10:55 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Carson has already been demonized and "Uncle Tom'd" by the black left because he doesn't toe the liberal line.

He wouldn't stand a chance in that party.

But I thought black people always vote for black people?

Them not being enamored for ol' Ben is probably more having do with him not believing in giving out handouts to people that are undeserving.

No free phones for one.

(08-15-2015 04:03 PM)dcCid Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 03:02 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 02:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-15-2015 01:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I don't think Carson gets 90% of the black vote against Hillary. But he very well gets 30-40%. And if he gets 30-40% and holds the base, he wins.

But he won't even get the nomination. Conservatives won't vote for a black guy.

Signed,

All these black Republicans

Senator Blanche Bruce - (MS)
Senator Edward Brooke - (MA)
Congressman Gary Franks - (CT)
Congressman J.C. Watts - (OK)
Congressman Tim Scott - (SC)
Congressman Allen West - (FL)
Congressman Will Hurd - (TX)
Congresswoman Mia Love -(UT)

There were also a good number in the 30's - 60's that were Democrats that, as you know, was the conservative party in those days. But I know you only count the party and not the actual political leaning.

My point is simple - YOU ARE WRONG.

As usual.

So are you saying Carson will get the nomination?

I certainly think he could.