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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(08-03-2015 02:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:09 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  Funny I can think of a few: Stupidity, ignorance, ranting, myopic......

I think maybe I was misunderstood, what I meant to say was, I think attendance would be better for NIU right now if they played an exclusive home schedule on Saturdays, even if they have a not so good team. For the average NIU fan, convenience trumps quality of team right now.


NIU vs UMASS
Saturday
3:30 PM ET, November 3, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 11,114


NIU vs Toledo
Wednesday
9:00 PM ET, November 14, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 17,813

UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.
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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:21 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I think maybe I was misunderstood, what I meant to say was, I think attendance would be better for NIU right now if they played an exclusive home schedule on Saturdays, even if they have a not so good team. For the average NIU fan, convenience trumps quality of team right now.


NIU vs UMASS
Saturday
3:30 PM ET, November 3, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 11,114


NIU vs Toledo
Wednesday
9:00 PM ET, November 14, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 17,813

UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.
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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:21 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  NIU vs UMASS
Saturday
3:30 PM ET, November 3, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 11,114


NIU vs Toledo
Wednesday
9:00 PM ET, November 14, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 17,813

UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

There's nothing illogical about that. Kansas wasn't that much of a draw. But overall a better OOC schedule will help with season tickets, and that will help a little even on the weeknight games.
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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:21 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  NIU vs UMASS
Saturday
3:30 PM ET, November 3, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 11,114


NIU vs Toledo
Wednesday
9:00 PM ET, November 14, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 17,813

UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.
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(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.
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(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

I guess my therapy isn't working yet. And I'm paying good money to that shrink...
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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

First game I ever left early due to the cold was that WMU game in 2013. I almost feel like anyone that went to that game should have gotten a redeemable ticket to another game.
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(08-03-2015 03:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

First game I ever left early due to the cold was that WMU game in 2013. I almost feel like anyone that went to that game should have gotten a redeemable ticket to another game.

Yea that's the worst one I've been to. I stayed for the whole game but I went by myself and did a lot of walking around and going under the stands during time outs.
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(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

Not even that worked for the November of '13 WMU game. Trust me.
Coldest. Game. Ever.
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MD with your clear dislike for our Nov MACtion games I really don't understand why you wouldn't be ok for NIU to move to the AAC to instead play those 1-2 home games on a Thursday/Friday night in September or October.
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(08-03-2015 03:40 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

Not even that worked for the November of '13 WMU game. Trust me.
Coldest. Game. Ever.

I sat in my shorts and watched the game on the big screen in my living room while enjoying a cold beer and a sandwich. I did not miss a play and did not even have to go into another room to warm up. I did enjoy seeing you guys on TV freezing your arses off.

Then I started thinking what my unused tickets were costing me and started to 03-weeping. That problem may be solved soon.
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(08-03-2015 03:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:40 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

Not even that worked for the November of '13 WMU game. Trust me.
Coldest. Game. Ever.

I sat in my shorts and watched the game on the big screen in my living room while enjoying a cold beer and a sandwich. I did not miss a play and did not even have to go into another room to warm up. I did enjoy seeing you guys on TV freezing your arses off.

Then I started thinking what my unused tickets were costing me and started to 03-weeping. That problem may be solved soon.
Yes you had an unused ticket and it cost you money, however, the program benefitted from you getting season tickets. Have to think beyond ones self interest to make a program successful.
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(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(08-03-2015 02:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:09 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  Funny I can think of a few: Stupidity, ignorance, ranting, myopic......

I think maybe I was misunderstood, what I meant to say was, I think attendance would be better for NIU right now if they played an exclusive home schedule on Saturdays, even if they have a not so good team. For the average NIU fan, convenience trumps quality of team right now.


NIU vs UMASS
Saturday
3:30 PM ET, November 3, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 11,114


NIU vs Toledo
Wednesday
9:00 PM ET, November 14, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 17,813

UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I attended that game and the weather that day was horrible, I think a record low temp happened that day.
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(08-03-2015 04:13 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:40 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:15 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:11 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Ive considered ESPN weeknight games as a fixed variable unfortunately. That does not mean you do not try to grow a fanbase even given the restricting fixed variables. Non-conf scheduling is basically the only thing NIU has control over at this point, so it is good to see that being maximized. Who knows if season ticket sales spike the next few years because of Frazier's non-conf schedule maybe that will mitigate the weekday blow a little bit. It might encourage fans to go to a weekday game they would not otherwise go to if they did not have the season ticket already. We can only hope.

As long as those November winter night games are played in temperatures with wind chills in the teens or lower, those games will not be well attended. IMO, people have to be certifiably nuts to sit outside in that weather. Either that, or so habitually drunk that they lost a bunch of brain cells and feel nothing. I'll still be a fan and watch the game on TV inside in warmth.

Not even that worked for the November of '13 WMU game. Trust me.
Coldest. Game. Ever.

I sat in my shorts and watched the game on the big screen in my living room while enjoying a cold beer and a sandwich. I did not miss a play and did not even have to go into another room to warm up. I did enjoy seeing you guys on TV freezing your arses off.

Then I started thinking what my unused tickets were costing me and started to 03-weeping. That problem may be solved soon.
Yes you had an unused ticket and it cost you money, however, the program benefitted from you getting season tickets. Have to think beyond ones self interest to make a program successful.

With the amount I donate, I think WAY beyond self-interest, sir. I would rather take the money for those tickets and donate it to the HAF directly. That benefits Athletics and provides me with a little tax deduction. A win-win. If/when I give up my football season tickets, it will be because of the winter night games, and I will tell them the reason. But, I will not decrease my donation - just re-channel it to basketball. I may even go with a mini plan for FB season tickets. But when I do, I'll be sure to ask for your permission and blessings.
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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
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(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
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(08-03-2015 02:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I think maybe I was misunderstood, what I meant to say was, I think attendance would be better for NIU right now if they played an exclusive home schedule on Saturdays, even if they have a not so good team. For the average NIU fan, convenience trumps quality of team right now.


NIU vs UMASS
Saturday
3:30 PM ET, November 3, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 11,114


NIU vs Toledo
Wednesday
9:00 PM ET, November 14, 2012
Huskie Stadium, Dekalb, IL
ATTENDANCE: 17,813

UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I attended that game and the weather that day was horrible, I think a record low temp happened that day.
The Kansas game? You must be thinking of a different game because the weather was beautiful.
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(08-03-2015 03:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 02:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  UMass on a weekday would be 4,000 and Toledo on a Saturday would be an overflow crowd now.
Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

There's nothing illogical about that. Kansas wasn't that much of a draw. But overall a better OOC schedule will help with season tickets, and that will help a little even on the weeknight games.

No, the Kansas Charlie Weiss circus was a big draw. Attendance was very disappointing...from a FL resident who is very little help in this area.
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RE: FRAZIER'S CORNER: Sharing the Good News and Numbers
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(08-03-2015 03:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
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(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

There's nothing illogical about that. Kansas wasn't that much of a draw. But overall a better OOC schedule will help with season tickets, and that will help a little even on the weeknight games.

No, the Kansas Charlie Weiss circus was a big draw. Attendance was very disappointing...from a FL resident who is very little help in this area.

I think the eye opening thing with the Kansas game was it became evident how important a season ticket base is. NIU was operating with an extremely low season ticket base at the time and it hurt individual game attendance quite a bit. I thought it would bring more people out than it did, but having one semi-attractive game embedded in a heap of decade crap did not do much. A commitment was then made by NIU with Frazier to build the non-conf schedule and I really believe this will pay off, although admittedly somewhat muted by the dreaded late season weeknight game effect. I hate to beat a dead horse, but the apathy of NIU so long in building this non-conf schedule, just cannot emphasize enough how damaging that was, and how it is largely responsible for what we face now with attendance issues.
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(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
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(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

There's nothing illogical about that. Kansas wasn't that much of a draw. But overall a better OOC schedule will help with season tickets, and that will help a little even on the weeknight games.

No, the Kansas Charlie Weiss circus was a big draw. Attendance was very disappointing...from a FL resident who is very little help in this area.

Not only Charlie Weiss, the Kansas Starting QB was ND transfer Dayne Chyst
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Frazier is going to be on XM today

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(08-03-2015 07:53 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(08-03-2015 03:02 PM)7 Wrote:  
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(08-03-2015 02:28 PM)7 Wrote:  Like Kansas was, eh?

I will admit I was taken back by attendance for Kansas, but you have to remember too that it was starting from a very low season ticket base. That is the thing which I think needs to be considered with the weeknight games, how many people that turns off to season tickets, it probably makes those Saturday afternoons when you are a 50/50 on the fence of going and the fact you don't have a season ticket tips the scales. I really believe this year we are just seeing the very onset of the increased season ticket sales with the foreseeable better non-conf schedule. I expect the following 2 season to really pick up in that regard once more and more get wind of the teams coming to DeKalb.

lol so in the first breath you say the Kansas game had low attendance because of bad season tickets due to playing weeknight games, but in the second breath you say season tickets will now go up due to better OOC games...........while stay playing weeknight games.

Never change, MD. Never change.

There's nothing illogical about that. Kansas wasn't that much of a draw. But overall a better OOC schedule will help with season tickets, and that will help a little even on the weeknight games.

No, the Kansas Charlie Weiss circus was a big draw. Attendance was very disappointing...from a FL resident who is very little help in this area.

How is Charlie Weiss a big draw? Nobody that's a Notre Dame fan would go to an NIU game to see him. There are few if any Patriots fans around here. I don't see how anybody would care, or for some, even know who Kansas' coach is. Still disappointing turnout for a nice day but I agree with MD that a decade full of crap schedules doesn't help.
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