(08-01-2015 11:23 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 09:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 04:41 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:35 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:16 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  LOL I've never seen one team get so many miles after one good year in forever...unreal. SMH

I mean, this is good material....

Yep, you're right. Only UCF and Cincy earned the right to brag last season. We just got lucky last season. It isn't 'so many miles'. One person says something and the ECU/Houston folks are on here reminding us that we don't have the right to brag. Of course, in CUSA they were the folks telling us not to talk about basketball since CUSA was a 'football conference'. Yeah, we are enjoying being conference champions and don't appreciate being told to know our place. The team EARNED that championship spot last season and EARNED the top 25 ranking. Memphis fans get to be proud of that and talk just as much s*** as the rest of the conference .

I don't think you got lucky...I think Memphis had a legit good team last year. That isn't what I'm saying. The funny part is the attitude of some Memphis posters in here that the program has 'arrived' after ONE good year in FOREVER. That's what I think is funny....and misplaced.

This. I don't see UCF or UC fans beating their chests over 2014 as if they were banner years in either programs history. UCF had a let down over a historically amazing 2013 year, and Cincy struggled more than they wanted to. But Memphis, one co-conference championship and they've apparently arrived, and the last 3 decades are distant history.

Who is acting like we've arrived? I'm defending my program...which is ridiculous because I shouldn't have to. Yes, UCF fan, Memphis has had some seriously rough patches in the past 30 years. The also played some pretty murderous schedules in the 80s and 90s as well and won some pretty damned big games. Let's not act like Memphis sucked for 30 years straight and then had one good season. Oh, to give you an idea of what Memphis had to go through as an independent which UCF never did...our 1989 schedule included- Mississippi, Mississippi St, Florida, Florida St, and Alabama.In 87 our first five games were Ole Miss, Vandy, Florida St, Miss St, and Alabama. It eased off a bit in 93 with only Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Miami. However, we played at least 4 P5 opponents every year until 2000. Most of them were on the road. We also beat Bama, Southern Cal, Florida, Arkansas (x3), Mississippi (multiple times), Miss St(multiple times), Vandy (multiple times), Missouri, Tennessee...had there been as many bowls then as there are now we would still have had multiple bowl trips in the 80s and 90s. The problem has come that when we have bad seasons they are very bad. When Memphis has a losing season it usually isn't 4-7. It's usually 1-10.

I don't claim Memphis has arrived. I will tell you, though, that about 4 years ago the powers that be at Memphis began to take football as seriously as basketball. You see what kind of season Memphis had three years later.

Ok, this got me curious - I'll bite. We have all been bad at some point.

Since 1912 (I did not realize MU has been playing football that long- nice) Memphis has:
Record: 455-498-33 (.478)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 2
Conference Champs: 7

Since 1979 UCF has:
Record: 224-190-1 (.541)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 11
Conference Champs: 4

http://www.winsipedia.com/ucf/vs/memphis


Since 1885 Cinci has:
Record: 590-564-50 (.511)
Bowl Games: 15
Weeks in AP Poll: 41
Conference Champs: 14

Since 1946 Houston has:
Record: 404-351-15 (.534)
Bowl Games: 22
Weeks in AP Poll: 174
Conference Champs: 10

http://www.winsipedia.com/houston/vs/cincinnati

(08-02-2015 04:00 AM)GoHouston Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 11:23 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 09:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 04:41 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:35 PM)transitt Wrote:  Yep, you're right. Only UCF and Cincy earned the right to brag last season. We just got lucky last season. It isn't 'so many miles'. One person says something and the ECU/Houston folks are on here reminding us that we don't have the right to brag. Of course, in CUSA they were the folks telling us not to talk about basketball since CUSA was a 'football conference'. Yeah, we are enjoying being conference champions and don't appreciate being told to know our place. The team EARNED that championship spot last season and EARNED the top 25 ranking. Memphis fans get to be proud of that and talk just as much s*** as the rest of the conference .

I don't think you got lucky...I think Memphis had a legit good team last year. That isn't what I'm saying. The funny part is the attitude of some Memphis posters in here that the program has 'arrived' after ONE good year in FOREVER. That's what I think is funny....and misplaced.

This. I don't see UCF or UC fans beating their chests over 2014 as if they were banner years in either programs history. UCF had a let down over a historically amazing 2013 year, and Cincy struggled more than they wanted to. But Memphis, one co-conference championship and they've apparently arrived, and the last 3 decades are distant history.

Who is acting like we've arrived? I'm defending my program...which is ridiculous because I shouldn't have to. Yes, UCF fan, Memphis has had some seriously rough patches in the past 30 years. The also played some pretty murderous schedules in the 80s and 90s as well and won some pretty damned big games. Let's not act like Memphis sucked for 30 years straight and then had one good season. Oh, to give you an idea of what Memphis had to go through as an independent which UCF never did...our 1989 schedule included- Mississippi, Mississippi St, Florida, Florida St, and Alabama.In 87 our first five games were Ole Miss, Vandy, Florida St, Miss St, and Alabama. It eased off a bit in 93 with only Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Miami. However, we played at least 4 P5 opponents every year until 2000. Most of them were on the road. We also beat Bama, Southern Cal, Florida, Arkansas (x3), Mississippi (multiple times), Miss St(multiple times), Vandy (multiple times), Missouri, Tennessee...had there been as many bowls then as there are now we would still have had multiple bowl trips in the 80s and 90s. The problem has come that when we have bad seasons they are very bad. When Memphis has a losing season it usually isn't 4-7. It's usually 1-10.

I don't claim Memphis has arrived. I will tell you, though, that about 4 years ago the powers that be at Memphis began to take football as seriously as basketball. You see what kind of season Memphis had three years later.

Ok, this got me curious - I'll bite. We have all been bad at some point.

Since 1912 (I did not realize MU has been playing football that long- nice) Memphis has:
Record: 455-498-33 (.478)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 2
Conference Champs: 7

Since 1979 UCF has:
Record: 224-190-1 (.541)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 11
Conference Champs: 4

http://www.winsipedia.com/ucf/vs/memphis


Since 1885 Cinci has:
Record: 590-564-50 (.511)
Bowl Games: 15
Weeks in AP Poll: 41
Conference Champs: 14

Since 1946 Houston has:
Record: 404-351-15 (.534)
Bowl Games: 22
Weeks in AP Poll: 174
Conference Champs: 10

http://www.winsipedia.com/houston/vs/cincinnati

So from this....

Memphis and Houston both have history.

Absolutely 2 different types of history.

For some reason I thought Houston had played football longer.

(08-01-2015 02:35 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:16 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 01:44 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Man, being defending co-champion feels good. We return a lot of players and we should win the west. Suck it! GTG!

*pats ECU on the head.

LOL I've never seen one team get so many miles after one good year in forever...unreal. SMH

I mean, this is good material....

Yep, you're right. Only UCF and Cincy earned the right to brag last season. We just got lucky last season. It isn't 'so many miles'. One person says something and the ECU/Houston folks are on here reminding us that we don't have the right to brag. Of course, in CUSA they were the folks telling us not to talk about basketball since CUSA was a 'football conference'. Yeah, we are enjoying being conference champions and don't appreciate being told to know our place. The team EARNED that championship spot last season and EARNED the top 25 ranking. Memphis fans get to be proud of that and talk just as much s*** as the rest of the conference .

Most UCF fans think last year was a bad year for the record. The whole league was bad, imo. Nobody had a marquee win and our league lost to div 1 aa teams, sunbelt, and C-Usa teams.

I'm hoping next year is much better as a league.

(08-01-2015 11:23 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 09:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 04:41 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:35 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:16 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  LOL I've never seen one team get so many miles after one good year in forever...unreal. SMH

I mean, this is good material....

Yep, you're right. Only UCF and Cincy earned the right to brag last season. We just got lucky last season. It isn't 'so many miles'. One person says something and the ECU/Houston folks are on here reminding us that we don't have the right to brag. Of course, in CUSA they were the folks telling us not to talk about basketball since CUSA was a 'football conference'. Yeah, we are enjoying being conference champions and don't appreciate being told to know our place. The team EARNED that championship spot last season and EARNED the top 25 ranking. Memphis fans get to be proud of that and talk just as much s*** as the rest of the conference .

I don't think you got lucky...I think Memphis had a legit good team last year. That isn't what I'm saying. The funny part is the attitude of some Memphis posters in here that the program has 'arrived' after ONE good year in FOREVER. That's what I think is funny....and misplaced.

This. I don't see UCF or UC fans beating their chests over 2014 as if they were banner years in either programs history. UCF had a let down over a historically amazing 2013 year, and Cincy struggled more than they wanted to. But Memphis, one co-conference championship and they've apparently arrived, and the last 3 decades are distant history.

Who is acting like we've arrived? I'm defending my program...which is ridiculous because I shouldn't have to. Yes, UCF fan, Memphis has had some seriously rough patches in the past 30 years. The also played some pretty murderous schedules in the 80s and 90s as well and won some pretty damned big games. Let's not act like Memphis sucked for 30 years straight and then had one good season. Oh, to give you an idea of what Memphis had to go through as an independent which UCF never did...our 1989 schedule included- Mississippi, Mississippi St, Florida, Florida St, and Alabama.In 87 our first five games were Ole Miss, Vandy, Florida St, Miss St, and Alabama. It eased off a bit in 93 with only Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Miami. However, we played at least 4 P5 opponents every year until 2000. Most of them were on the road. We also beat Bama, Southern Cal, Florida, Arkansas (x3), Mississippi (multiple times), Miss St(multiple times), Vandy (multiple times), Missouri, Tennessee...had there been as many bowls then as there are now we would still have had multiple bowl trips in the 80s and 90s. The problem has come that when we have bad seasons they are very bad. When Memphis has a losing season it usually isn't 4-7. It's usually 1-10.

I don't claim Memphis has arrived. I will tell you, though, that about 4 years ago the powers that be at Memphis began to take football as seriously as basketball. You see what kind of season Memphis had three years later.

I would be interested in seeing any post in this Forum from any Tiger fan stating that Memphis has "arrived" in football. Any fan stating it is mistaken and perhaps a bit giddy. However, you are correct that Memphis is laying the foundation for sustained success for football. A good year will accelerate the process.

(08-02-2015 06:59 AM)knight-stick Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 04:00 AM)GoHouston Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 11:23 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 09:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 04:41 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I don't think you got lucky...I think Memphis had a legit good team last year. That isn't what I'm saying. The funny part is the attitude of some Memphis posters in here that the program has 'arrived' after ONE good year in FOREVER. That's what I think is funny....and misplaced.

This. I don't see UCF or UC fans beating their chests over 2014 as if they were banner years in either programs history. UCF had a let down over a historically amazing 2013 year, and Cincy struggled more than they wanted to. But Memphis, one co-conference championship and they've apparently arrived, and the last 3 decades are distant history.

Who is acting like we've arrived? I'm defending my program...which is ridiculous because I shouldn't have to. Yes, UCF fan, Memphis has had some seriously rough patches in the past 30 years. The also played some pretty murderous schedules in the 80s and 90s as well and won some pretty damned big games. Let's not act like Memphis sucked for 30 years straight and then had one good season. Oh, to give you an idea of what Memphis had to go through as an independent which UCF never did...our 1989 schedule included- Mississippi, Mississippi St, Florida, Florida St, and Alabama.In 87 our first five games were Ole Miss, Vandy, Florida St, Miss St, and Alabama. It eased off a bit in 93 with only Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Miami. However, we played at least 4 P5 opponents every year until 2000. Most of them were on the road. We also beat Bama, Southern Cal, Florida, Arkansas (x3), Mississippi (multiple times), Miss St(multiple times), Vandy (multiple times), Missouri, Tennessee...had there been as many bowls then as there are now we would still have had multiple bowl trips in the 80s and 90s. The problem has come that when we have bad seasons they are very bad. When Memphis has a losing season it usually isn't 4-7. It's usually 1-10.

I don't claim Memphis has arrived. I will tell you, though, that about 4 years ago the powers that be at Memphis began to take football as seriously as basketball. You see what kind of season Memphis had three years later.

Ok, this got me curious - I'll bite. We have all been bad at some point.

Since 1912 (I did not realize MU has been playing football that long- nice) Memphis has:
Record: 455-498-33 (.478)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 2
Conference Champs: 7

Since 1979 UCF has:
Record: 224-190-1 (.541)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 11
Conference Champs: 4

http://www.winsipedia.com/ucf/vs/memphis


Since 1885 Cinci has:
Record: 590-564-50 (.511)
Bowl Games: 15
Weeks in AP Poll: 41
Conference Champs: 14

Since 1946 Houston has:
Record: 404-351-15 (.534)
Bowl Games: 22
Weeks in AP Poll: 174
Conference Champs: 10

http://www.winsipedia.com/houston/vs/cincinnati

So from this....

Memphis and Houston both have history.

Absolutely 2 different types of history.

Memphis had multiple 1-2 loss seasons where they weren't ranked. If you look at their ENTIRE history you'd see that from WWII untill 1977 the program averaged 7-8 wins per season.

If you only pull up part of the info, Houston looks like a power in basketball, too. It's easy to make numbers say what you want.

At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

(08-02-2015 12:28 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

That would be an impressive start and definitely get the ball rolling for them.

(08-02-2015 12:28 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

Maryland will have no effect on wether USF is a contender for the conference title in 2015, so I will day besting Memphis would be a sign of the Bulls being a conference contender for 2015

(08-02-2015 12:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:28 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

Maryland will have no effect on wether USF is a contender for the conference title in 2015, so I will day besting Memphis would be a sign of the Bulls being a conference contender for 2015

Well, beating a Big 10 opponent would be a nice thing, too...

(08-02-2015 12:43 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:28 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

Maryland will have no effect on wether USF is a contender for the conference title in 2015, so I will day besting Memphis would be a sign of the Bulls being a conference contender for 2015

Well, beating a Big 10 opponent would be a nice thing, too...

Of course it would be but it wouldn't mean that we would be a contender in the AAC

(08-02-2015 12:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:43 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:28 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

Maryland will have no effect on wether USF is a contender for the conference title in 2015, so I will day besting Memphis would be a sign of the Bulls being a conference contender for 2015

Well, beating a Big 10 opponent would be a nice thing, too...

Of course it would be but it wouldn't mean that we would be a contender in the AAC

Well no but the AAC schools would definitely notice and take USF very seriously at that point (not that they shouldn't now).

(08-02-2015 04:00 AM)GoHouston Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 11:23 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 09:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 04:41 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 02:35 PM)transitt Wrote:  Yep, you're right. Only UCF and Cincy earned the right to brag last season. We just got lucky last season. It isn't 'so many miles'. One person says something and the ECU/Houston folks are on here reminding us that we don't have the right to brag. Of course, in CUSA they were the folks telling us not to talk about basketball since CUSA was a 'football conference'. Yeah, we are enjoying being conference champions and don't appreciate being told to know our place. The team EARNED that championship spot last season and EARNED the top 25 ranking. Memphis fans get to be proud of that and talk just as much s*** as the rest of the conference .

I don't think you got lucky...I think Memphis had a legit good team last year. That isn't what I'm saying. The funny part is the attitude of some Memphis posters in here that the program has 'arrived' after ONE good year in FOREVER. That's what I think is funny....and misplaced.

This. I don't see UCF or UC fans beating their chests over 2014 as if they were banner years in either programs history. UCF had a let down over a historically amazing 2013 year, and Cincy struggled more than they wanted to. But Memphis, one co-conference championship and they've apparently arrived, and the last 3 decades are distant history.

Who is acting like we've arrived? I'm defending my program...which is ridiculous because I shouldn't have to. Yes, UCF fan, Memphis has had some seriously rough patches in the past 30 years. The also played some pretty murderous schedules in the 80s and 90s as well and won some pretty damned big games. Let's not act like Memphis sucked for 30 years straight and then had one good season. Oh, to give you an idea of what Memphis had to go through as an independent which UCF never did...our 1989 schedule included- Mississippi, Mississippi St, Florida, Florida St, and Alabama.In 87 our first five games were Ole Miss, Vandy, Florida St, Miss St, and Alabama. It eased off a bit in 93 with only Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Miami. However, we played at least 4 P5 opponents every year until 2000. Most of them were on the road. We also beat Bama, Southern Cal, Florida, Arkansas (x3), Mississippi (multiple times), Miss St(multiple times), Vandy (multiple times), Missouri, Tennessee...had there been as many bowls then as there are now we would still have had multiple bowl trips in the 80s and 90s. The problem has come that when we have bad seasons they are very bad. When Memphis has a losing season it usually isn't 4-7. It's usually 1-10.

I don't claim Memphis has arrived. I will tell you, though, that about 4 years ago the powers that be at Memphis began to take football as seriously as basketball. You see what kind of season Memphis had three years later.

Ok, this got me curious - I'll bite. We have all been bad at some point.

Since 1912 (I did not realize MU has been playing football that long- nice) Memphis has:
Record: 455-498-33 (.478)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 2
Conference Champs: 7

Since 1979 UCF has:
Record: 224-190-1 (.541)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 11
Conference Champs: 4

http://www.winsipedia.com/ucf/vs/memphis


Since 1885 Cinci has:
Record: 590-564-50 (.511)
Bowl Games: 15
Weeks in AP Poll: 41
Conference Champs: 14

Since 1946 Houston has:
Record: 404-351-15 (.534)
Bowl Games: 22
Weeks in AP Poll: 174
Conference Champs: 10

http://www.winsipedia.com/houston/vs/cincinnati

Uh.............shouldn't you be using UCF's history since 1996 when they started playing FBS then Div. I football. They weren't eligible for bowl games nor conference championships nor AP rankings until then. Additionally, UCF was independent in football from 1996 until 2001 when they joined the MAC, thus ineligible for conference championships until 2001.

(08-02-2015 12:49 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:43 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:28 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  At what point do we start to consider USF a contender in 2015?

Going 3-1 to start the season? Beat FAMU, Maryland and Memphis?

Maryland will have no effect on wether USF is a contender for the conference title in 2015, so I will day besting Memphis would be a sign of the Bulls being a conference contender for 2015

Well, beating a Big 10 opponent would be a nice thing, too...

Of course it would be but it wouldn't mean that we would be a contender in the AAC

Well no but the AAC schools would definitely notice and take USF very seriously at that point (not that they shouldn't now).

I look at Maryland as the first test for USF in 2015, we should beat FAMU and lose to FSU, would be shocked if the results in those two turns out differently but what I am saying is that wether we win or lose yo Maryland will not affect on wether we compete for the AAC title, only AAC games determine that and Memphis will be our big test in early season

(08-02-2015 01:00 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 04:00 AM)GoHouston Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 11:23 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 09:38 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2015 04:41 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I don't think you got lucky...I think Memphis had a legit good team last year. That isn't what I'm saying. The funny part is the attitude of some Memphis posters in here that the program has 'arrived' after ONE good year in FOREVER. That's what I think is funny....and misplaced.

This. I don't see UCF or UC fans beating their chests over 2014 as if they were banner years in either programs history. UCF had a let down over a historically amazing 2013 year, and Cincy struggled more than they wanted to. But Memphis, one co-conference championship and they've apparently arrived, and the last 3 decades are distant history.

Who is acting like we've arrived? I'm defending my program...which is ridiculous because I shouldn't have to. Yes, UCF fan, Memphis has had some seriously rough patches in the past 30 years. The also played some pretty murderous schedules in the 80s and 90s as well and won some pretty damned big games. Let's not act like Memphis sucked for 30 years straight and then had one good season. Oh, to give you an idea of what Memphis had to go through as an independent which UCF never did...our 1989 schedule included- Mississippi, Mississippi St, Florida, Florida St, and Alabama.In 87 our first five games were Ole Miss, Vandy, Florida St, Miss St, and Alabama. It eased off a bit in 93 with only Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Miami. However, we played at least 4 P5 opponents every year until 2000. Most of them were on the road. We also beat Bama, Southern Cal, Florida, Arkansas (x3), Mississippi (multiple times), Miss St(multiple times), Vandy (multiple times), Missouri, Tennessee...had there been as many bowls then as there are now we would still have had multiple bowl trips in the 80s and 90s. The problem has come that when we have bad seasons they are very bad. When Memphis has a losing season it usually isn't 4-7. It's usually 1-10.

I don't claim Memphis has arrived. I will tell you, though, that about 4 years ago the powers that be at Memphis began to take football as seriously as basketball. You see what kind of season Memphis had three years later.

Ok, this got me curious - I'll bite. We have all been bad at some point.

Since 1912 (I did not realize MU has been playing football that long- nice) Memphis has:
Record: 455-498-33 (.478)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 2
Conference Champs: 7

Since 1979 UCF has:
Record: 224-190-1 (.541)
Bowl Games: 7
Weeks in AP Poll: 11
Conference Champs: 4

http://www.winsipedia.com/ucf/vs/memphis


Since 1885 Cinci has:
Record: 590-564-50 (.511)
Bowl Games: 15
Weeks in AP Poll: 41
Conference Champs: 14

Since 1946 Houston has:
Record: 404-351-15 (.534)
Bowl Games: 22
Weeks in AP Poll: 174
Conference Champs: 10

http://www.winsipedia.com/houston/vs/cincinnati

Uh.............shouldn't you be using UCF's history since 1996 when they started playing FBS then Div. I football. They weren't eligible for bowl games nor conference championships nor AP rankings until then. Additionally, UCF was independent in football from 1996 until 2001 when they joined the MAC, thus ineligible for conference championships until 2001.

I think we'd be splitting unnecessary hairs at that point. Even from the starting point he selected, it's an impressive resume, most would agree.

As someone mentioned earlier, strange to think that Houston Football is only ~30 years older than UCF football.

Interesting to compare USF vs UCF

USF does well in a lot of metrics.

Our winning percentage was well over 0.600 all time until Skippy cratered the program.


http://www.winsipedia.com/south-florida/vs/ucf

USF is not going winning anything. Why start such such a dumb thread. The field for winning is wide open in our conference the AAC this coming year.

(08-02-2015 01:17 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:49 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:43 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:37 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Maryland will have no effect on wether USF is a contender for the conference title in 2015, so I will day besting Memphis would be a sign of the Bulls being a conference contender for 2015

Well, beating a Big 10 opponent would be a nice thing, too...

Of course it would be but it wouldn't mean that we would be a contender in the AAC

Well no but the AAC schools would definitely notice and take USF very seriously at that point (not that they shouldn't now).

I look at Maryland as the first test for USF in 2015, we should beat FAMU and lose to FSU, would be shocked if the results in those two turns out differently but what I am saying is that wether we win or lose yo Maryland will not affect on wether we compete for the AAC title, only AAC games determine that and Memphis will be our big test in early season

Yea, I realize Maryland is not in our conference. But if USF starts the season 3-1, you will probably be favored in the majority of the AAC conference games going forward.

USF goes 4-1 in a dominating form, they should be receiving votes.

(08-02-2015 03:17 PM)Savacool Wrote:  USF is not going winning anything. Why start such such a dumb thread. The field for winning is wide open in our conference the AAC this coming year.

Says the fan from Tulane.

(08-02-2015 03:22 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 01:17 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:49 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-02-2015 12:43 PM)transitt Wrote:  Well, beating a Big 10 opponent would be a nice thing, too...

Of course it would be but it wouldn't mean that we would be a contender in the AAC

Well no but the AAC schools would definitely notice and take USF very seriously at that point (not that they shouldn't now).

I look at Maryland as the first test for USF in 2015, we should beat FAMU and lose to FSU, would be shocked if the results in those two turns out differently but what I am saying is that wether we win or lose yo Maryland will not affect on wether we compete for the AAC title, only AAC games determine that and Memphis will be our big test in early season

Yea, I realize Maryland is not in our conference. But if USF starts the season 3-1, you will probably be favored in the majority of the AAC conference games going forward.

USF goes 4-1 in a dominating form, they should be receiving votes.

Been there done that. We need to win the conference games.