(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

lol, suddenly everyone wants to play Memphis...

(07-31-2015 11:25 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

Last year we had to play all top 5 teams, plus three OOC games that all three went bowling. We only had 4 wins, but I think people underestimate that we also had one of the hardest schedules in the AAC.

This is why I have hope for this year. Our conference schedule is a "little" easier, we have an easier OOC schedule and were a better team.

6-7 wins is where we will be at, and I am fine with that. Our program got destroyed over time and it will take time to build it back up. Skippy killed it in 3 years, so I think this is the year that we begin to see Taggart getting it to where it needs to be.

We have a great defensive coach, and most dont realize that we hired a High School legend in our front office to help the Offense. Kinnan is a Florida football legend. Hes so good hes been consulted at a couple universities... Georgia Tech being one of them. Hes made some changes that will make us more effective. We had 3 losses by a touchdown or less. were gonna be a better team and back in a bowl this year.

I wont hold my breath for a conference championship. Were still two years away from competing at the very top.

I didn't underestimate it. However, to do like Memphis did then you would have to have the Memphis schedule. That is my point. USF will not have that schedule.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/aac/2...hedule.php

flowers eligible

gunner injury prone is injured
benkert flops
ucf struggles rebuilding defense
temple defense regresses but offense remains the same
and whoever in the west wins the division has heavy injuries on the CCG

if all of that happens id give usf a 30% chance

Missouri State
@Kansas
@BGSU
Cincy
@USF
Mississippi
@Tulsa
Tulane
Navy
@Houston
@Temple
SMU

I think Memphis is primed to have another solid season, and a bowl trip...

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Memphis hasn't beaten ECU in a DECADE.

Florida A&M W
at Florida State L
at Maryland L
Memphis L
Syracuse W
at Connecticut W
SMU W
at Navy L
at East Carolina W
Temple L
Cincinnati L
at UCF L

5 wins won't cut it USF

(07-31-2015 11:47 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Memphis hasn't beaten ECU in a DECADE.

And?

Did you actually SEE Memphis play last season?

(07-31-2015 11:50 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:47 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Memphis hasn't beaten ECU in a DECADE.

And?

Did you actually SEE Memphis play last season?

Did you see ECU? They can't even hold onto the football

(07-31-2015 11:52 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:50 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:47 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Memphis hasn't beaten ECU in a DECADE.

And?

Did you actually SEE Memphis play last season?

Did you see ECU? They can't even hold onto the football

Memphis was 10-3 last season, two of the losses were close games vs Ole Miss and UCLA where Memphis was within 4 or LEADING in the 4th quarter. We beat one of the co champs by 24 in their own house and ECU fans are trying to qualify our success last season. That makes sense. Nope we didn't play ECU last season. We were too busy beating the teams who were beating ECU.

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Can we not pretend like some kind of transitive property definitively results in a win for either team. Memphis had one of their best teams in the history of their program last year and split a conference championship with two other teams. Yes, its funny that memphis hasn't beaten UCF or ECU in over a decade and 25 years in UCF's case. Its also funny that as soon as they don't face the two teams they historically lose to they win the conference. But memphis was a much much better team than they usually are last year. Enjoy the success. This year will be telling year to see if the success is sustainable

(07-31-2015 11:58 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:52 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:50 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:47 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Memphis hasn't beaten ECU in a DECADE.

And?

Did you actually SEE Memphis play last season?

Did you see ECU? They can't even hold onto the football

Memphis was 10-3 last season, two of the losses were close games vs Ole Miss and UCLA where Memphis was within 4 or LEADING in the 4th quarter. We beat one of the co champs by 24 in their own house and ECU fans are trying to qualify our success last season. That makes sense. Nope we didn't play ECU last season. We were too busy beating the teams who were beating ECU.

They act as if Memphis had a choice and declined to play ECU. You play the conference schedule you are dealt, and Memphis won every game except 1. What else do people want? Memphis was very good last year.

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

Why are the Memphis fans so defensive about comparative stuff. The poster used Memphis as the example; not me. I explained why Memphis had a good season. That is all, but the Memphis fans are coming out of the woodwork to defend their lucky breaks season (Cincinnati quarterback hurt; beat Temple by a field goal; evaded ECU and UCF; beat BYU without Taysom Hill). Calm down. It is not like I am calling your season a fluke or anything like that.

(07-31-2015 12:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:58 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:52 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:50 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:47 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Memphis hasn't beaten ECU in a DECADE.

And?

Did you actually SEE Memphis play last season?

Did you see ECU? They can't even hold onto the football

Memphis was 10-3 last season, two of the losses were close games vs Ole Miss and UCLA where Memphis was within 4 or LEADING in the 4th quarter. We beat one of the co champs by 24 in their own house and ECU fans are trying to qualify our success last season. That makes sense. Nope we didn't play ECU last season. We were too busy beating the teams who were beating ECU.

They act as if Memphis had a choice and declined to play ECU. You play the conference schedule you are dealt, and Memphis won every game except 1. What else do people want? Memphis was very good last year.

All you can do is play the games on your schedule and win as many as possible. Thats what memphis did and they walked away with a share of the conference title.

(07-31-2015 12:00 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Why are the Memphis fans so defensive about comparative stuff.

They have one good year in a loooong time and they think they are world beaters.

2014 was the first time since 2007 they even had a winning record, the first time since 1938 they have won 10 games, and the first conference championship since 1971.

There's just a little pent up frustration........

(07-30-2015 05:45 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Let's see

Florida A&M
at Florida State
at Maryland
Memphis
Syracuse
at Connecticut
SMU
at Navy
at East Carolina
Temple
Cincinnati
at UCF


Thats not a cakewalk of a schedule, are you sure about that, CyberBull???

The OOC schedule is pretty tough. 3 gimme wins... but the rest is a crapshoot. QB is the key, with halfway decent QB play this Bulls teams should be bowl eligble this season...

(07-31-2015 12:09 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:45 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Let's see

Florida A&M
at Florida State
at Maryland
Memphis
Syracuse
at Connecticut
SMU
at Navy
at East Carolina
Temple
Cincinnati
at UCF


Thats not a cakewalk of a schedule, are you sure about that, CyberBull???

The OOC schedule is pretty tough. 3 gimme wins... but the rest is a crapshoot. QB is the key, with halfway decent QB play this Bulls teams should be bowl eligble this season...

Maryland and Syracuse aren't gimme's for usf.

(07-31-2015 11:59 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:45 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 10:56 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:31 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  ...it's not a crazy idea that a talented young team with a losing record can turn it around in one year and win conference, see Memphis.

To quote Waylon Jennings: I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going insane.

USF could win the AAC, but it is not likely; because the schedule requires USF to play 4 of the conferences top 6 teams; including UCF and ECU. Memphis didn't have to ECU and UCF last year; so they didn't get their customary two annual losses. People keep losing track of that little point.

We beat one of the co champs at their place 41-17. Before you mention Keil going out, we were already up by three touchdowns when he was injured. How'd you guys do against them again? How about Temple? See, in common opponents ECU had two losses to Memphis' zero losses. You assume that ECU would have beaten Memphis last season. Games vs common opponents say no, you wouldn't have.

...Memphis had one of their best teams in the history of their program last year and split a conference championship with two other teams. Yes, its funny that memphis hasn't beaten UCF or ECU in over a decade and 25 years in UCF's case. Its also funny that as soon as they don't face the two teams they historically lose to they win the conference. But memphis was a much much better team than they usually are last year...

would you prefer Memphis to return to 1-11 and 2-10 seasons?

I mean, after the disaster that was Tommy West's last season, and the Larry Porter 'era', would you not relish every second of a 10-3 season, that included a conference title (even if it was a co title)?

looking at the schedule (Kansas appears to be down next season, 1AA team in Missouri St) Memphis could have yet another solid season this year.

(07-31-2015 12:10 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 12:09 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(07-30-2015 05:45 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Let's see

Florida A&M
at Florida State
at Maryland
Memphis
Syracuse
at Connecticut
SMU
at Navy
at East Carolina
Temple
Cincinnati
at UCF


Thats not a cakewalk of a schedule, are you sure about that, CyberBull???

The OOC schedule is pretty tough. 3 gimme wins... but the rest is a crapshoot. QB is the key, with halfway decent QB play this Bulls teams should be bowl eligble this season...

Maryland and Syracuse aren't gimme's for usf.

FAMU, UConn, and SMU are the gimme wins in my book.