posted in the houston forum and i thought it was interesting since there is a ton of expansion talk....

old school history

the almost first super conference. note houston and miami were the top teams and something not really noted in the invoice was that fsu was available and wanted in but that Houston and Miami were who they wanted



Houston had avid supporters and those pushing for us hard were the Mississippi schools and gtech

Auburn, Tennessee would have voted yes for us

tulane didnt want expansion but if it was forced on them through vote they were going to lobby for houston

looks like expansion itself was the debate and need a 3/4 vote to even consider (which didnt happen)... despite over 50% wanting expansion

but if it did expand miami was an overwhelming yes and houston had enough of a voting block (over 50% support) to be the partner

Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

"History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction"
so anything that happened before the existance of the internet and you cant "link" to isnt history but fiction..that has got to be the most ignorant thing ive ever read...

2) where is old tiger i swear he is always around to call me out constantly whenever im even slightly critcal on anyone else but no where to be seen


3) did you even read the document? this wasnt a blog post or forum piece. all i did was summarize what was in the fax...it was a fax summarizing how far he's gotten with talking to the other sec presidents and what the likelyhood of everything was and how far he has to go to our president at the time General Andrew Davis Bruce..

if that s not enough for you heres a newspaper from that era talking about it

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8...1662&hl=en

4)you call out everyone and everything on this forum not usf that shows them in a positive light and are dramatically over critical of everything...but will then post article from some blogger..(an actually blogger post what you are trying to call me out on today) of some theory he made up on what teams would sell for on the open market....a theory that had duke..top 3 most powerful bball school in the nation that pays its coach almost 10 mil a year..only being worth in total 26mil.....almost 10 mil less than Wazzu....

your slowly becoming that rollingwave guy..who feels the need to trash anything and anyone not his school and overhype anything his school is doing

we had enough votes that if they decided to expand us and miami were the 2 teams

but didn't have enough votes to expand (needed atleast 75%) but over 50% wanted to expand we were 2 or 3 ADs away from being in the SEC

(07-21-2015 10:07 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

"History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction"
so anything that happened before the existance of the internet and you cant "link" to isnt history but fiction..that has got to be the most ignorant thing ive ever read...

2) where is old tiger i swear he is always around to call me out constantly whenever im even slightly critcal on anyone else but no where to be seen


3) did you even read the document? this wasnt a blog post or forum piece. all i did was summarize what was in the fax...it was a fax summarizing how far he's gotten with talking to the other sec presidents and what the likelyhood of everything was and how far he has to go to our president at the time General Andrew Davis Bruce..

if that s not enough for you heres a newspaper from that era talking about it

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8...1662&hl=en

4)you call out everyone and everything on this forum not usf that shows them in a positive light and are dramatically over critical of everything...but will then post article from some blogger..(an actually blogger post what you are trying to call me out on today) of some theory he made up on what teams would sell for on the open market....a theory that had duke..top 3 most powerful bball school in the nation that pays its coach almost 10 mil a year..only being worth in total 26mil.....almost 10 mil less than Wazzu....

your slowly becoming that rollingwave guy..who feels the need to trash anything and anyone not his school and overhype anything his school is doing

You'll have some difficulty demonstrating where I am calling you or anyone else out "constantly".

so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

(07-21-2015 10:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

Some may find this information interesting.

(07-21-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

Some may find this information interesting.

this actually did happen

(07-21-2015 10:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

this has nothing to do with a chance at anything ..i simple noted some history since expansion was the main topic on the forum, that here's some fun history sorta related to one of teams from some years ago

It is interesting to see how things might've progressed. Tulane could've stayed in the SEC, South Carolina in the ACC, Chicago in the B1G. The Metro super conference. Many of the AAC schools have been peers with "power" programs for a long time. That is why there so much angst for many of us towards the holy-than-thou P5ers.

Blame Tulane

It would have been nice for Houston and Miami.

My favorite bed time story of could of, would of, should of is still the Super Metro

Just a dream

(07-22-2015 08:33 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  It is interesting to see how things might've progressed. Tulane could've stayed in the SEC, South Carolina in the ACC, Chicago in the B1G. The Metro super conference. Many of the AAC schools have been peers with "power" programs for a long time. That is why there so much angst for many of us towards the holy-than-thou P5ers.

Yes the arrogance of some P5 schools that were just lucky enough to be Grandfathered into a P5 Conference or had a campus built on what became valuable TV media market dirt is frustrating to deal with.

No one argues that there are not 12-20 historically elite damn near royalty Football programs in the country that deserve to be in the top tier of College Football but there are a bunch that are damn lucky to have caught a ride on the coat tails of those elite programs or have their geographic location provide them with a launching pad for membership in the P5

Very frustrating to be on the outside and know what that membership could do over night for the program you pull for and scary to think there are only a few more seats available on what will be a final split between the haves and the have nots that will forever change the dynamics of College Football if we see a move towards a P4 model or even just an expanded P5 that will hold tight for decades after a few more moves

If nothing else it shows the type of machnations that go on behind close doors, when it comes to realignment, and it still going on, these type of communications.

(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

It happened. I want to say Mississippi or Mississippi St was our sponsor. Seems like I remember it being mentioned on the Houston Cougars Football Wikipeidia page. I suspect there is a footnote there you can go to for more documentation. I actually think were some discussions about joining the SEC several different eras. We were approached in the late 80's and early 1990's as a possible partner for Texas A&M.

(07-21-2015 10:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:32 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  so you are saying there was a chance 60 years ago



bwahahahahahaha

Some may find this information interesting.

this actually did happen

That is beyond dangerous, hippos attack and kill more people in Africa than any other animal

(07-21-2015 10:07 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

"History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction"
so anything that happened before the existance of the internet and you cant "link" to isnt history but fiction..that has got to be the most ignorant thing ive ever read...

2) where is old tiger i swear he is always around to call me out constantly whenever im even slightly critcal on anyone else but no where to be seen


3) did you even read the document? this wasnt a blog post or forum piece. all i did was summarize what was in the fax...it was a fax summarizing how far he's gotten with talking to the other sec presidents and what the likelyhood of everything was and how far he has to go to our president at the time General Andrew Davis Bruce..

if that s not enough for you heres a newspaper from that era talking about it

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8...1662&hl=en

4)you call out everyone and everything on this forum not usf that shows them in a positive light and are dramatically over critical of everything...but will then post article from some blogger..(an actually blogger post what you are trying to call me out on today) of some theory he made up on what teams would sell for on the open market....a theory that had duke..top 3 most powerful bball school in the nation that pays its coach almost 10 mil a year..only being worth in total 26mil.....almost 10 mil less than Wazzu....

your slowly becoming that rollingwave guy..who feels the need to trash anything and anyone not his school and overhype anything his school is doing

1, Historical accounts are also written in text on paper, stone and animal hides but I digress.

2, OldTiger is one of the least critical people on this forum.

3, Your document wasn't even present when I posted. Hmm, maybe you had to search for it. Note that you've edited your post to add the now present document. Thus proving you're trying to attack people for no reason.

4, I do not call out everyone. In fact I don't even post in most threads. You however, whine like hell if anyone even suggests you may be wrong on anything. Oh and how dare anyone question your sources. Just act like your an adult for a while. I asked for a source. By the way, I can make a document that's far more substantial then that in Photoshop, I suggest you give it whirl.

(07-22-2015 10:59 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

It happened. I want to say Mississippi or Mississippi St was our sponsor. Seems like I remember it being mentioned on the Houston Cougars Football Wikipeidia page. I suspect there is a footnote there you can go to for more documentation. I actually think were some discussions about joining the SEC several different eras. We were approached in the late 80's and early 1990's as a possible partner for Texas A&M.

Attack, I have no problems with it happening. I wanted to read what had happened. I asked for a source because one wasn't present or unreadable at the time I posted. pesik is a different story, he's such a tool. He had to attack everyone in stead of having a discussion.

That is not true. The SEC did not want the two. As you all know Tulane was a founding member of the SEC.

(07-22-2015 01:15 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 10:07 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-21-2015 07:29 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Link to real documentation and not just a Blogger or Forum piece please. History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction.

Before you scream about me doubting your veracity, remember that you're always asking for a link.

"History is only history if it's documented, otherwise it's just fiction"
so anything that happened before the existance of the internet and you cant "link" to isnt history but fiction..that has got to be the most ignorant thing ive ever read...

2) where is old tiger i swear he is always around to call me out constantly whenever im even slightly critcal on anyone else but no where to be seen


3) did you even read the document? this wasnt a blog post or forum piece. all i did was summarize what was in the fax...it was a fax summarizing how far he's gotten with talking to the other sec presidents and what the likelyhood of everything was and how far he has to go to our president at the time General Andrew Davis Bruce..

if that s not enough for you heres a newspaper from that era talking about it

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=8...1662&hl=en

4)you call out everyone and everything on this forum not usf that shows them in a positive light and are dramatically over critical of everything...but will then post article from some blogger..(an actually blogger post what you are trying to call me out on today) of some theory he made up on what teams would sell for on the open market....a theory that had duke..top 3 most powerful bball school in the nation that pays its coach almost 10 mil a year..only being worth in total 26mil.....almost 10 mil less than Wazzu....

your slowly becoming that rollingwave guy..who feels the need to trash anything and anyone not his school and overhype anything his school is doing

1, Historical accounts are also written in text on paper, stone and animal hides but I digress.

2, OldTiger is one of the least critical people on this forum.

3, Your document wasn't even present when I posted. Hmm, maybe you had to search for it. Note that you've edited your post to add the now present document. Thus proving you're trying to attack people for no reason.

4, I do not call out everyone. In fact I don't even post in most threads. You however, whine like hell if anyone even suggests you may be wrong on anything. Oh and how dare anyone question your sources. Just act like your an adult for a while. I asked for a source. By the way, I can make a document that's far more substantial then that in Photoshop, I suggest you give it whirl.

I second the whining, sorry Pesik, you whine like crazy.