(07-18-2015 03:18 AM)Policiious Wrote:  Based on how they performed at the end of last season and in their bowl TCU certainly deserves to be in the final 4 this year.

The best thing about college football is every year is a new beginning.

(07-18-2015 08:32 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 01:32 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 01:02 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 12:32 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  The reality is that it is the SEC that is slipping. I mean just look, your hawgs are actually picked by quite a few to have a strong shot at winning the West.

Obviously the SEC West is on the way down then.

H1, you must be tired. This is attempt at baiting is just way too obvious. Try again.

Yeah I know, one is generally going to be unsuccessful at baiting SEC folks to a conversation with actual facts and not just "belief" statements.

It's true though about the SEC slipping. Last year, everyone was calling for them to have two teams in the first ever College Football Playoffs. Now? Most folks are talking about the SEC having zero teams in it.

Run from the truth, run!

You do listen to yourself when you type? I haven't heard anyone say that the SEC wouldn't have a team in the playoff. And please inform me of these so called "facts" of yours.

Finebaum said it. Just because you havnt heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Fact.

Finebaum's opinion = fact

got it

(07-18-2015 04:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Finebaum's opinion = fact

got it

You need to read a little closer before getting offended.

One poster claimed no one said the SEC wouldn't get a team in the playoff. H said it was a fact that Finebaum said it.

So the original poster was wrong. And your response was a non sequitur.

No one is offended here, we're just having some good natured SEC vs B1G message board baiting here.

Such a buzzkill.

(07-17-2015 04:33 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  ? Did VT get a bunch of transfers I don't know about.

Don't know in particular, but if the most talented of the players who were injured last season healed up, that's be the equivalent of a bunch of transfers compared to VTech at the end of last season.

Quote: Because if the bunch that ECU raped in Blacksburg last year is OSU's toughest opponent, they've got a cakewalk.

I don't think that team would have a shot at being the second toughest road game on the Buckeyes schedule, but the 7th of September seems a bit early for VTech to be having to start that many from their second and third strings.

(07-18-2015 04:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Finebaum's opinion = fact

got it

Well, given that the argument was about who said so, Finebaum's expressed opinion = fact that somebody said it. It doesn't prove that MOST people say it, but it does prove that SOMEBODY said it.

Personally, I expect it'll be FSU that regresses and it'll be the ACC without anybody in the semi-finals.

(07-18-2015 04:23 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  No one is offended here, we're just having some good natured SEC vs B1G message board baiting here.

Such a buzzkill.

It's all good, just having fun with the reversed circumstances.

Ohio State is stacked and has built a SEC team in the Big Ten.

(07-18-2015 07:24 PM)chess Wrote:  Ohio State is stacked and has built a SEC team in the Big Ten.

No, they have built a Big Ten team.

(07-18-2015 07:29 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 07:24 PM)chess Wrote:  Ohio State is stacked and has built a SEC team in the Big Ten.

No, they have built a Big Ten team.

No. In college football. Everything is compared to the SEC. That's how you know your doing it the correct way.

OSU Schedule (in degree of difficulty, give or take; described in # of "Games Back" in variance):

-- Ohio State
1 Michigan State
4 @Virginia Tech (improved; opening game - best shot for underdog with rusty power)
4 @Michigan (Harbaugh settled in late season; rivalry in AA)
5.5 Minnesota
5.5 Penn State
5.5 Northern Illinois
6 @Rutgers
6 @Illinois
6.5 Western Michigan
6.5 Maryland (they're supposed to take a drop this year)
7 @Indiana
9 Hawaii

(07-18-2015 11:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  OSU Schedule (in degree of difficulty, give or take; described in # of "Games Back" in variance):

-- Ohio State
1 Michigan State
4 @Virginia Tech (improved; opening game - best shot for underdog with rusty power)
4 @Michigan (Harbaugh settled in late season; rivalry in AA)
5.5 Minnesota
5.5 Penn State
5.5 Northern Illinois
6 @Rutgers
6 @Illinois
6.5 Western Michigan
6.5 Maryland (they're supposed to take a drop this year)
7 @Indiana
9 Hawaii

The Ohio State schedule is a relative cakewalk. The Buckeyes' toughest game is Michigan State, which they get at home. Virginia Tech upset them last season, so I would assume OSU will be looking for some payback this year. Michigan will rebound under Harbaugh -- they seem to be recruiting very well -- but they are probably a couple of years away from giving the Buckeyes a serious contest. The rest are just not on the same level and should present no problem, so Ohio State probably has a floor of 10 wins. OSU will be favored in every game they play and a playoff berth is a virtual lock. The biggest problem for the Buckeyes may be that, other than Michigan State, they may not be sufficiently tested before the playoffs. They are talented enough that it may not matter, but a couple more tough games could help more than hurt.

(07-19-2015 12:08 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 11:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  OSU Schedule (in degree of difficulty, give or take; described in # of "Games Back" in variance):

-- Ohio State
1 Michigan State
4 @Virginia Tech (improved; opening game - best shot for underdog with rusty power)
4 @Michigan (Harbaugh settled in late season; rivalry in AA)
5.5 Minnesota
5.5 Penn State
5.5 Northern Illinois
6 @Rutgers
6 @Illinois
6.5 Western Michigan
6.5 Maryland (they're supposed to take a drop this year)
7 @Indiana
9 Hawaii

The Ohio State schedule is a relative cakewalk. The Buckeyes' toughest game is Michigan State, which they get at home. Virginia Tech upset them last season, so I would assume OSU will be looking for some payback this year. Michigan will rebound under Harbaugh -- they seem to be recruiting very well -- but they are probably a couple of years away from giving the Buckeyes a serious contest. The rest are just not on the same level and should present no problem, so Ohio State probably has a floor of 10 wins. OSU will be favored in every game they play and a playoff berth is a virtual lock. The biggest problem for the Buckeyes may be that, other than Michigan State, they may not be sufficiently tested before the playoffs. They are talented enough that it may not matter, but a couple more tough games could help more than hurt.

One might say, somewhat similar to the Florida State situation last year?

(07-19-2015 12:16 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2015 12:08 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 11:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  OSU Schedule (in degree of difficulty, give or take; described in # of "Games Back" in variance):

-- Ohio State
1 Michigan State
4 @Virginia Tech (improved; opening game - best shot for underdog with rusty power)
4 @Michigan (Harbaugh settled in late season; rivalry in AA)
5.5 Minnesota
5.5 Penn State
5.5 Northern Illinois
6 @Rutgers
6 @Illinois
6.5 Western Michigan
6.5 Maryland (they're supposed to take a drop this year)
7 @Indiana
9 Hawaii

The Ohio State schedule is a relative cakewalk. The Buckeyes' toughest game is Michigan State, which they get at home. Virginia Tech upset them last season, so I would assume OSU will be looking for some payback this year. Michigan will rebound under Harbaugh -- they seem to be recruiting very well -- but they are probably a couple of years away from giving the Buckeyes a serious contest. The rest are just not on the same level and should present no problem, so Ohio State probably has a floor of 10 wins. OSU will be favored in every game they play and a playoff berth is a virtual lock. The biggest problem for the Buckeyes may be that, other than Michigan State, they may not be sufficiently tested before the playoffs. They are talented enough that it may not matter, but a couple more tough games could help more than hurt.

One might say, somewhat similar to the Florida State situation last year?

Absolutely. The path to the national title game has been significantly easier for Florida State for the last couple of years. Outside of a game with Notre Dame, they didn't have much resistance, so there was a larger margin for error. They played a lot of close games, but still won, while others playing more difficult schedules took close losses along the way.

(07-19-2015 06:41 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-19-2015 12:16 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2015 12:08 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 11:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  OSU Schedule (in degree of difficulty, give or take; described in # of "Games Back" in variance):

-- Ohio State
1 Michigan State
4 @Virginia Tech (improved; opening game - best shot for underdog with rusty power)
4 @Michigan (Harbaugh settled in late season; rivalry in AA)
5.5 Minnesota
5.5 Penn State
5.5 Northern Illinois
6 @Rutgers
6 @Illinois
6.5 Western Michigan
6.5 Maryland (they're supposed to take a drop this year)
7 @Indiana
9 Hawaii

The Ohio State schedule is a relative cakewalk. The Buckeyes' toughest game is Michigan State, which they get at home. Virginia Tech upset them last season, so I would assume OSU will be looking for some payback this year. Michigan will rebound under Harbaugh -- they seem to be recruiting very well -- but they are probably a couple of years away from giving the Buckeyes a serious contest. The rest are just not on the same level and should present no problem, so Ohio State probably has a floor of 10 wins. OSU will be favored in every game they play and a playoff berth is a virtual lock. The biggest problem for the Buckeyes may be that, other than Michigan State, they may not be sufficiently tested before the playoffs. They are talented enough that it may not matter, but a couple more tough games could help more than hurt.

One might say, somewhat similar to the Florida State situation last year?

Absolutely. The path to the national title game has been significantly easier for Florida State for the last couple of years. Outside of a game with Notre Dame, they didn't have much resistance, so there was a larger margin for error. They played a lot of close games, but still won, while others playing more difficult schedules took close losses along the way.

We'll see, it's never easy to repeat. Everyone gives you their absolute best every weekend. So, just by being Ohio State this year, their schedule is harder than it looks.

(07-19-2015 06:41 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-19-2015 12:16 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2015 12:08 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(07-18-2015 11:47 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  OSU Schedule (in degree of difficulty, give or take; described in # of "Games Back" in variance):

-- Ohio State
1 Michigan State
4 @Virginia Tech (improved; opening game - best shot for underdog with rusty power)
4 @Michigan (Harbaugh settled in late season; rivalry in AA)
5.5 Minnesota
5.5 Penn State
5.5 Northern Illinois
6 @Rutgers
6 @Illinois
6.5 Western Michigan
6.5 Maryland (they're supposed to take a drop this year)
7 @Indiana
9 Hawaii

The Ohio State schedule is a relative cakewalk. The Buckeyes' toughest game is Michigan State, which they get at home. Virginia Tech upset them last season, so I would assume OSU will be looking for some payback this year. Michigan will rebound under Harbaugh -- they seem to be recruiting very well -- but they are probably a couple of years away from giving the Buckeyes a serious contest. The rest are just not on the same level and should present no problem, so Ohio State probably has a floor of 10 wins. OSU will be favored in every game they play and a playoff berth is a virtual lock. The biggest problem for the Buckeyes may be that, other than Michigan State, they may not be sufficiently tested before the playoffs. They are talented enough that it may not matter, but a couple more tough games could help more than hurt.

One might say, somewhat similar to the Florida State situation last year?

Absolutely. The path to the national title game has been significantly easier for Florida State for the last couple of years. Outside of a game with Notre Dame, they didn't have much resistance, so there was a larger margin for error. They played a lot of close games, but still won, while others playing more difficult schedules took close losses along the way.

Even Georgia Southern could play FSU close last year. FSU almost lost to 2 teams that Georgia Southern almost beaten.

(07-19-2015 12:16 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2015 12:08 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  The Ohio State schedule is a relative cakewalk.

One might say, somewhat similar to the Florida State situation last year?

Last year FSU played and beat the Russell Athletic Bowl Champ, the Music City Bowl Champ, and the Orange Bowl Champ. Oh, yeah, the St. Petersburg Bowl and Birmingham Bowl Champs, too.

Florida St beat
Oklahoma St- unranked
The Citadel
Clemson-finished #15 in AP
NC State- unranked
Wake Forest- unranked
Syracuse- unranked
Notre Dame- unranked
Louisville- finished #24 in AP
UVA- unranked
Miami- unranked
BC- unranked
Florida- unranked
Ga Tech- finished #8 in AP

So they beat #8,15,24. Also beat 4 teams(Syracuse, Wake Forest, Miami, and Virginia) who had losing seasons. Also 3 7 win teams. Looking at Anderson Hester, their regular season SOS was #53.

Will say Ohio St had a pretty easy schedule as well though even last year. Their regular season SOS was #47. And their schedule is worse this year- instead of Navy, Cincy, and Kent St, they have Northern Illinois, W Michigan, and Hawaii. Also their toughest conference games- Michigan St and Minnesota- and even I'd say Penn St- are home this year after being away last year.

(07-20-2015 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Florida St beat
Oklahoma St- unranked
The Citadel
Clemson-finished #15 in AP
NC State- unranked
Wake Forest- unranked
Syracuse- unranked
Notre Dame- unranked
Louisville- finished #24 in AP
UVA- unranked
Miami- unranked
BC- unranked
Florida- unranked
Ga Tech- finished #8 in AP

So they beat #8,15,24. Also beat 4 teams(Syracuse, Wake Forest, Miami, and Virginia) who had losing seasons. Also 3 7 win teams. Looking at Anderson Hester, their regular season SOS was #53.

Will say Ohio St had a pretty easy schedule as well though even last year. Their regular season SOS was #47. And their schedule is worse this year- instead of Navy, Cincy, and Kent St, they have Northern Illinois, W Michigan, and Hawaii. Also their toughest conference games- Michigan St and Minnesota- and even I'd say Penn St- are home this year after being away last year.

How will the Buckeyes recover from a week #1 loss with that weak schedule?

(07-20-2015 03:20 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-20-2015 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Florida St beat
Oklahoma St- unranked
The Citadel
Clemson-finished #15 in AP
NC State- unranked
Wake Forest- unranked
Syracuse- unranked
Notre Dame- unranked
Louisville- finished #24 in AP
UVA- unranked
Miami- unranked
BC- unranked
Florida- unranked
Ga Tech- finished #8 in AP

So they beat #8,15,24. Also beat 4 teams(Syracuse, Wake Forest, Miami, and Virginia) who had losing seasons. Also 3 7 win teams. Looking at Anderson Hester, their regular season SOS was #53.

Will say Ohio St had a pretty easy schedule as well though even last year. Their regular season SOS was #47. And their schedule is worse this year- instead of Navy, Cincy, and Kent St, they have Northern Illinois, W Michigan, and Hawaii. Also their toughest conference games- Michigan St and Minnesota- and even I'd say Penn St- are home this year after being away last year.

How will the Buckeyes recover from a week #1 loss with that weak schedule?

Yeah, we get it, you guys are going to brag about that one win early last season until you actually do something of merit. God I hope you guys do well this year because it's pretty pathetic that you guys still act like you are hanging this over the heads of Ohio State considering they won the national championship after blanking Wisconsin, whom beat Auburn, beating Alabama and then beating Oregon.

Your right though, that loss to VT mattered so much.....