(06-29-2015 03:11 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 03:06 PM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 10:16 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  exactly......that is why football only deals suck for the conference in general. The CAA lets anyone that wants to treat the CAA affiliation like an a-la=carte lunch menu.

Except in the CAA there are technically zero "football only deals". The CAA and The CAA FOOTBALL CONFERENCE are two separate entities with two separate memberships. Therefore there are no CAA affiliate memberships for football only. Thats why Richmond could leave for the A10 for all sports except football so easily and CAA Football was willing to keep them on. Its also why a Football Only deal, should one be presented by a non-SBC conference, would be intriguing to JMU because they could sever the ties with the Football Conference and remain in the CAA.

Basketball, Baseball, Olympic Sports are all CAA with this logo...

While the football teams are separate with this logo...

Bourne has repeatedly said that a conference change will involve an "all or nothing" approach and that JMU will not pursue an affiliate membership.

Just another poor decision in the ledger, imo.

I know that is what he's said all along, so what, he can't change his position. In addition to what Degenerate has stated, there is no money involved in our leaving the CAA Football Conference. There is a $1M fee when we remove our Olympic sports from the CAA.

Talk the SB into giving it a try. Leave Idaho in the conference for another couple years. That at least gets them 12 football playing teams and 12 Oly teams.

Maybe even think a little outside the box and have a number of SB Olympic sports on our schedule. We might could work to help out with their travel partner issue simply by putting some of there teams on our schedule for games at JMU. That's what having a travel partner is all about. Giving their TX and AR teams another game to play when they come east to play Appy. Right now they come east and only play one game and its killing their travel budgets.

No reason for either of us to be so hard nosed. Let us ease into it. Eventually they'll get rid of Idaho and bring NMSU in for all sports.

It's down to the wire. Maybe Bourne is waiting until 4:59 to give DC reps max time to mislead DC members. It is the end of the fiscal year for JMU.

This is starting to get awkward...is it really possible that nothing will be released today about this national branding effort?

(06-30-2015 10:12 AM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  This is starting to get awkward...is it really possible that nothing will be released today about this national branding effort?

There already was something released in the Bourne Dialogue from 4/22/15.

"Q: Can you share some additional information on the accountability measure that speaks to 'strengthening the JMU Athletics brand nationally.'

A: I alluded to the role that Athletics plays in enhancing the national profile of the institution. The term 'front porch' of the University is used often to support this concept. Likewise, we play a role in meeting the vision for being the national model of the engaged university. Over the course of the next few months, both Athletics and the University are conducting national searches to fill key leadership positions among our respective communications staffs. These individuals will play an important role in continuing to develop and execute our plan as it relates to our national profile and brand. Therefore, we will take our time in developing this continued approach to enhancing our national profile."

There is nothing else coming. They'll continue to take their time...ie, kick the can down the road, again, and again, etc...

NovaDuke is Purplehazed using a different username because Purplehazed said he was hanging it up.

See below response I received, three weeks after sending an email expressing my concern for just about everything under the sun as it pertains to our Athletic Department. I'm nearly certain this is a canned response and has done nothing but put more distance between me and the administration at our beloved University.

"I have had an opportunity to review your email and I am responding on behalf of the Athletic Program and our University Administration. First, I want to thank you for your support, both as a Duke Club donor and as a season ticket holder. Financial support and attendance at our events, home and away, are a critical factor in growing our athletic brand across the country. It not only provides financial support for the department, but it makes a strong statement to other leagues about how well James Madison is supported by our fans: a key factor that conferences consider when evaluating prospective new members. These same leagues and their respective presidents consider the strategic vision and plan for respective athletic programs to determine long-term commitment and fit within the greater context of the university.

As we navigate the changing climate of intercollegiate athletics especially at the national level, our decisions are focused on what is best for our student-athletes and the future of our athletic program. As we evaluate potential changes in league affiliation we consider a broad range of factors: academic missed class time, academic profile of member institutions, ability to be competitive athletically in all sports especially football, men’s and women’s basketball, prospect to recruit student-athletes that would be competitive athletically and in the classroom. Additionally, significant importance is placed on the impact that related travel costs would have on our athletic student-fee structure. I am sure you aware the recent passing of the Cox Bill in Virginia that places caps on the amount of funding an athletic program may receive from student fees. As we plan for the future of our program, we will work diligently to be good stewards of the resources entrusted to us in order to optimize the student-athlete experience.

Our efforts to collaborate and lead on a national level are evident with President’s Alger’s engagement on the NCAA Division 1 Board of Directors and several of our athletic staff who have just agreed to serve on National Competition or Governance Committees. We believe in maintaining a strong presence nationally and being well informed of potential conference expansion efforts should they occur. Please know we work daily to make the best decisions to elevate the prominence and stature of our university. We maintain strong, collaborative working relationships with a broad range of athletic administrators, athletic thought leaders and conference commissioners across the country. The information we glean from these relationships will assist us as in our decision making process when opportunities present themselves in the future.

I appreciate your passion for James Madison University and encourage you to support our program going forward. We make a very positive impression when we stand united as the JMU Nation.

With Dukes Pride,

Jeff Bourne
Athletic Director

(06-30-2015 10:30 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  NovaDuke is Purplehazed using a different username because Purplehazed said he was hanging it up.

I knew there was something about him I liked. I'm enjoying the vision of him editing and retyping his posts over and over to remove the Bourne death threats so he doesn't tip his hand.

(06-30-2015 10:30 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  NovaDuke is Purplehazed using a different username because Purplehazed said he was hanging it up.

I am not purplehazed, although I am certain that purplehazed shot JFK.

Has anybody seen Elvis lately or know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried...or know the strategy JMU is using to brand JMU athletics nationally?

That's not really a horrible response from Bourne. Nothing he hasn't said before but at least he made sure to sprinkle in references about conference affiliation and moving. He knows it has to happen. Whether him and this administration can execute it ... well, at this point you basically have to say no. They've had plenty of time. Too much time.

So much fluffy talk from JB...wow..

Came for the "strategic plan" I've been hearing all about.....

Check back on 6/30/2034.

Until there's an actual announcement to be made that's all we're gonna get, and I'm starting to not expect and announcement in my lifetime.

(06-30-2015 01:01 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Until there's an actual announcement to be made that's all we're gonna get, and I'm starting to not expect and announcement in my lifetime.

What is all we get, we have gotten literally nothing?

(06-30-2015 01:18 PM)NovaDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:01 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Until there's an actual announcement to be made that's all we're gonna get, and I'm starting to not expect and announcement in my lifetime.

What is all we get, we have gotten literally nothing?

I was referring to the email response Bourne sent that was posted a page back. More of the same aka nothing.

(06-30-2015 01:30 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:18 PM)NovaDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:01 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Until there's an actual announcement to be made that's all we're gonna get, and I'm starting to not expect and announcement in my lifetime.

What is all we get, we have gotten literally nothing?

I was referring to the email response Bourne sent that was posted a page back. More of the same aka nothing.

oh, I thought you were saying Bourne is releasing nothing today after months ago stating we would see a "comprehensive" athletic plan to brand by today.

Bourne is a weiner but I've gone this long giving him the benefit of doubt in the smarts department, he has 2 and half hours.

(06-30-2015 01:40 PM)NovaDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:30 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:18 PM)NovaDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:01 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Until there's an actual announcement to be made that's all we're gonna get, and I'm starting to not expect and announcement in my lifetime.

What is all we get, we have gotten literally nothing?

I was referring to the email response Bourne sent that was posted a page back. More of the same aka nothing.

oh, I thought you were saying Bourne is releasing nothing today after months ago stating we would see a "comprehensive" athletic plan to brand by today.

Bourne is a weiner but I've gone this long giving him the benefit of doubt in the smarts department, he has 2 and half hours.

Where/when did he say we would "see" anything? I believe the statement was that the plan would be "implemented" by 6/30/15 which does not necessarily imply that we would see or hear anything about it.

Was our one nationally televised football game that was announced today the "national branding strategy"???

(06-30-2015 01:40 PM)NovaDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:30 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:18 PM)NovaDuke Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 01:01 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Until there's an actual announcement to be made that's all we're gonna get, and I'm starting to not expect and announcement in my lifetime.

What is all we get, we have gotten literally nothing?

I was referring to the email response Bourne sent that was posted a page back. More of the same aka nothing.

oh, I thought you were saying Bourne is releasing nothing today after months ago stating we would see a "comprehensive" athletic plan to brand by today.

Bourne is a weiner but I've gone this long giving him the benefit of doubt in the smarts department, he has 2 and half hours.

Based on the depth of the strategic plan I bet he hasn't even started it yet. He's finishing up his game of candy crush.

(06-30-2015 01:49 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  Was our one nationally televised football game that was announced today the "national branding strategy"???

Only if that strategy is to showcase other conference teams' stadiums.