It won't get nasty unless the folks on the way out are dicks.

If there is another round of realignment and UC is stuck in this even more watered down conference, I will just find other things to do with my time. Won't care about it much any more other than to ask why the hell we wasted all of the money on facilities and high priced coaches to be in the FCS Majors Division.

(06-30-2015 05:45 AM)otown Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:43 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:39 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  It's not going to look much different from where you are now as 6 to 8 teams will be leaving

yup

I'm guessing the B12 teams that remain after all said and done will be Iowa State and Kstate.

KU will be in the B1G
Texoma 4 Pac
WVA SEC/ACC
Baylor/TCU: Not sure...SEC? B1G? Pac?

The new B12 will be the best of the AAC, some MWC and KSTATE/ISU

which is better than we have now, so i take it..... even if we move baby steps at a time.

If B1G didn't want Mizzou, they sure as hell don't want KU. Plus KU is tied to KSU so they are both SOL. WVU brings no market so they are stuck with the remains. UConn & Cincinnati get into the ACC before WVU. Texhoma to the PAC will eventually happen.

(06-30-2015 06:40 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It won't get nasty unless the folks on the way out are dicks.

If there is another round of realignment and UC is stuck in this even more watered down conference, I will just find other things to do with my time. Won't care about it much any more other than to ask why the hell we wasted all of the money on facilities and high priced coaches to be in the FCS Majors Division.

Says there wont be dicks UNTIL schools start leaving.

Proceeds to talk sh!t about the schools in the conference right now, despite no one, including UC, having left yet. Stuck, watered down already, FCS schools? Lovely. You think he sees it? Or is he just completely unaware of the irony. I'm sure he'll play it off as some intentional joke now though.

Spent too many years now fretting about this BS. It's really not worth it. Maybe a few schools leave the AAC, and we reload a bit weaker. Maybe the B12 dissolves and reforms, and a bunch of AAC schools join and end up a bit stronger. Either way, it's a bit, not a lot. No matter what happens, the bulk of the AAC ends up in essentially the same place, the best conference (or one of the best...) outside the P5 or P4, whatever it ends up being...

Pretty sure the sun will keep rising and setting, and the Earth will keep spinning. On Saturday, there will still be football. I will love my teams no matter where they end up. If a few schools get 'in' the P club, good for them.

(06-30-2015 08:16 AM)Bull Wrote:  Spent too many years now fretting about this BS. It's really not worth it. Maybe a few schools leave the AAC, and we reload a bit weaker. Maybe the B12 dissolves and reforms, and a bunch of AAC schools join and end up a bit stronger. Either way, it's a bit, not a lot. No matter what happens, the bulk of the AAC ends up in essentially the same place, the best conference (or one of the best...) outside the P5 or P4, whatever it ends up being...

Pretty sure the sun will keep rising and setting, and the Earth will keep spinning. On Saturday, there will still be football. I will love my teams no matter where they end up. If a few schools get 'in' the P club, good for them.

Totally agree with you and why I dont contribute to these types of threads BUT I find them very entertaining. I guess it's like a mans version of 50 shades of grey. I hope this thread last until the start of football.

(06-30-2015 07:07 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  If B1G didn't want Mizzou, they sure as hell don't want KU. Plus KU is tied to KSU so they are both SOL. WVU brings no market so they are stuck with the remains. UConn & Cincinnati get into the ACC before WVU. Texhoma to the PAC will eventually happen.

I don't know that they didn't want Mizzou - east was their first priority then. Big 10 would take KU, an AAU school with a massive basketball brand.Agree that Cincy and U conn get ACC well before W Va.
I'm not convinced KU is tied to K State; nor OU tied to OSU; nor Tx tied to T Tech. Those second-state teams will scramble and I don't know where they'd go.
Probably nowhere..Big 12 will live. But it does show that on a competitive field, without that carry of OU and Texas, AAC can stand up to them (exceed them, really).
In the end, they'll need 80-90 schools for proper inventory, which is about the same number that existed when the NCAA had major college and small college divisions.

Bottom line is the AAC will have at least 1 to 3 more years of stability. And likely will not lose more than 2 members. If Big12 doesn't move for 3 years, AAC may well have new TV deal settled, if it as we all hope at least doubles revenue, Back filling will not be difficult. Both CUSA and some MWC schools will be out there.

(06-30-2015 08:16 AM)Bull Wrote:  Spent too many years now fretting about this BS. It's really not worth it. Maybe a few schools leave the AAC, and we reload a bit weaker. Maybe the B12 dissolves and reforms, and a bunch of AAC schools join and end up a bit stronger. Either way, it's a bit, not a lot. No matter what happens, the bulk of the AAC ends up in essentially the same place, the best conference (or one of the best...) outside the P5 or P4, whatever it ends up being...

Pretty sure the sun will keep rising and setting, and the Earth will keep spinning. On Saturday, there will still be football. I will love my teams no matter where they end up. If a few schools get 'in' the P club, good for them.

The difference is the schools in this conference are getting big enough and influential enough to rock the boat. If all of the lifeboats are out to see the p4 have issues on their hands.

I wouldn't be entirely shocked if the B1G went after KU and Mizzou next go-round.

Mizzou is happy in the SEC, no doubt, but the place they really coveted was the B1G.

An empty spot in the SEC might make things very interesting.

WVA, VaTech, UNC & NCSU would all be possible targets... and depending on who left, things might get even *more* interesting.

(06-30-2015 09:03 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 08:16 AM)Bull Wrote:  Spent too many years now fretting about this BS. It's really not worth it. Maybe a few schools leave the AAC, and we reload a bit weaker. Maybe the B12 dissolves and reforms, and a bunch of AAC schools join and end up a bit stronger. Either way, it's a bit, not a lot. No matter what happens, the bulk of the AAC ends up in essentially the same place, the best conference (or one of the best...) outside the P5 or P4, whatever it ends up being...

Pretty sure the sun will keep rising and setting, and the Earth will keep spinning. On Saturday, there will still be football. I will love my teams no matter where they end up. If a few schools get 'in' the P club, good for them.

The difference is the schools in this conference are getting big enough and influential enough to rock the boat. If all of the lifeboats are out to see the p4 have issues on their hands.

I completely agree. Tubberville was replayed on Siruis XM this morning and was specifically asked about the B12, stability and expansion, and CCG issues. The hosts asked him about contraction to a P4, and in his response he mentioned the alternate option of EXPANDING to a P6, because too many good teams are excluded.

Other than Aresco of course, we need more AAC associates, AD, coaches, etc. to be beating this drum. I firmly believe that, while we may never get 20+ million per year TV, somehow the best of the MWC/AAC, or B12 remnants, will have playoff access.

(06-29-2015 08:43 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:39 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  It's not going to look much different from where you are now as 6 to 8 teams will be leaving

yup

I'm guessing the B12 teams that remain after all said and done will be Iowa State and Kstate.

KU will be in the B1G
Texoma 4 Pac
WVA SEC/ACC
Baylor/TCU: Not sure...SEC? B1G? Pac?

The new B12 will be the best of the AAC, some MWC and KSTATE/ISU

And it will become a G5 conference. The other P4 conferences will make sure of that.

If the BXII fails these 10 schools *could* form a core that would be P5 worthy.

UConn
Memphis
TCU
WV
Cincinnati
Kansas
Kansas State
UCF
Baylor
BYU

(06-30-2015 09:45 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the BXII fails these 10 schools *could* form a core that would be P5 worthy.

UConn
Memphis
TCU
WV
Cincinnati
Kansas
Kansas State
UCF
Baylor
BYU

In the past 10 years, half have been top 10 finishers....... would have to be P5 worthy.

(06-30-2015 09:45 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the BXII fails these 10 schools *could* form a core that would be P5 worthy.

UConn
Memphis
TCU
WV
Cincinnati
Kansas
Kansas State
UCF
Baylor
BYU

If you say so

(06-29-2015 08:35 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:31 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:25 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:22 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  UCF, UC, BYU, Memphis

I just don't understand why they would propose to create a second island while trying to alleviate the issues the arose form the first one. BYU is a good School but, they will soon be screaming for a travel companion of their own. While USF solves the travel companion issues for UCF. Oh well, I'm not in charge anyway.

Having a ucf/usf combo in Florida makes a lot of sense to me. The Big 12 would own the center of Florida which would be very appealing to tv networks.

That and our hate/rivalry would go national.

We've moved on to UConn.

(06-30-2015 09:45 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the BXII fails these 10 schools *could* form a core that would be P5 worthy.

UConn
Memphis
TCU
WV
Cincinnati
Kansas
Kansas State
UCF
Baylor
BYU

LMAO!

(06-30-2015 09:18 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I wouldn't be entirely shocked if the B1G went after KU and Mizzou next go-round.

Mizzou is happy in the SEC, no doubt, but the place they really coveted was the B1G.

An empty spot in the SEC might make things very interesting.

WVA, VaTech, UNC & NCSU would all be possible targets... and depending on who left, things might get even *more* interesting.

The B1G & $EC are trying to figure out a way to poach VA & NC thus destroying the ACC. Texahoma heads west. I think the B1G could go to 20 school, $EC to 16-20 depending on the direction of Texhoma. When that happens, it puts a lot of ACC schools in play that WVU can then join. The B12 is headed toward MWC status.

(06-30-2015 09:58 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 09:18 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I wouldn't be entirely shocked if the B1G went after KU and Mizzou next go-round.

Mizzou is happy in the SEC, no doubt, but the place they really coveted was the B1G.

An empty spot in the SEC might make things very interesting.

WVA, VaTech, UNC & NCSU would all be possible targets... and depending on who left, things might get even *more* interesting.

The B1G & $EC are trying to figure out a way to poach VA & NC thus destroying the ACC. Texahoma heads west. I think the B1G could go to 20 school, $EC to 16-20 depending on the direction of Texhoma. When that happens, it puts a lot of ACC schools in play that WVU can then join. The B12 is headed toward MWC status.

20? What is the reason for having a conference at that point? Might as well break off and form a whole new sub-division and have your own playoff.

Texas will never get into the PAC with their network in tow.

UT goes indy. OU/OSU/TTU/UH to the PAC 16 :)

Hey, I can dream

firm: Why would the SEC try to ruin the ACC? Both are Disney Properties. They blend well for the WWL.

You see this as a battle between the WWL and FOX and things come clear.

The B12 has the target on their back not the ACC.

(06-30-2015 09:45 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  If the BXII fails these 10 schools *could* form a core that would be P5 worthy.

UConn
Memphis
TCU
WV
Cincinnati
Kansas
Kansas State
UCF
Baylor
BYU

Add Houston and ECU and it looks solid to me.