(06-09-2015 08:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 07:40 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Wow, just wow. There's plenty of blame to go around here.

Not really.

I think there could be blame on all sides.

1) The kids were *definitely* punks.
2) The officer *probably* overreacted.

Like I said above, it would be easier to police if people were rational and decent. That's not how people are these days. This isn't 1955. Welcome to "A Clockwork Orange".

(06-09-2015 08:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 07:40 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Wow, just wow. There's plenty of blame to go around here.

Not really.

I think there could be blame on all sides.

1) The kids were *definitely* punks.
2) The officer *probably* overreacted.
3.) The woman *shouldn't* have assault someone.
Like I said above, it would be easier to police if people were rational and decent. That's not how people are these days. This isn't 1955. Welcome to "A Clockwork Orange".

FIFY. You keep leaving that out.

(06-09-2015 07:58 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 12:08 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:38 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:31 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:23 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I find it interesting that there's apparently no video of the lead up to police arrival. Something isnt quite right here.

I mean, a damn dj was trying to throw a party at a pool he didn't belong to. We know that a lot of teens showed up uninvited. A white person uses a racial slur and assaulted someone, suddenly they're the bad guys here. Calling somebody a name overrides all the other bs. Gtfo of here.

FIFY

Ok... What happened before that? Did this mom really assault this kid or not? Besides, they shouldn't have been there in the first place. When do we get to hear the adults side of the story?

Multiple eyewitnesses said that the mom slapped the kid and called her a racial epithet.

Great but wtf led up to that?

You'll co-sign anything.

(06-09-2015 04:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  More and more facts continue to roll out, giving new perspective to what really happened.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bl...areButtons

Quote:If you live near McKinney, Texas and you like to party, you might have been aware of the Dime Piece Cookout before it went down this past Friday.

It was advertised heavily on Twitter for a full month leading up to the event, and organized by a professional promoter named Tatiana Rhodes. Rhodes is a grown woman who, apparently along with her mom, put together this party primarily as a means to sell tickets to another event, Make It Clap Pt 2, which was supposed to happen in late June.

This was a massive blowout held in a private community, fully equipped with a DJ, advertised on social media to hundreds of people, but never once cleared with the local homeowners association. It was also promoted as a pool party (hence the giant image of a pool on the flyer), even though the pool is off limits to non-residents, unless they are guests of residents. Residents have a limited number of friends they can invite. I’m not sure what the number is, but I assume it’s somewhere south of 100.

The organizers claim they got permission, but the HOA confirmed to local media that they neither sought it nor received it. This fact is essential, because it confirms two things: 1) The people who threw this party did not care about respecting the clearly outlined rules of the community, and 2) They don’t mind lying.

Can't wait for "Make it Clap Pt2" in a few weeks.

(06-09-2015 08:53 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 07:40 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Wow, just wow. There's plenty of blame to go around here.

Not really.

I think there could be blame on all sides.

1) The kids were *definitely* punks.
2) The officer *probably* overreacted.
3.) The woman *shouldn't* have assault someone.
Like I said above, it would be easier to police if people were rational and decent. That's not how people are these days. This isn't 1955. Welcome to "A Clockwork Orange".

FIFY. You keep leaving that out.

I don't know about the woman assaulting someone. Maybe she was attacked first? I don't know that sequence of events, so I can't address it.

(06-09-2015 08:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 04:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  More and more facts continue to roll out, giving new perspective to what really happened.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bl...areButtons

Quote:If you live near McKinney, Texas and you like to party, you might have been aware of the Dime Piece Cookout before it went down this past Friday.

It was advertised heavily on Twitter for a full month leading up to the event, and organized by a professional promoter named Tatiana Rhodes. Rhodes is a grown woman who, apparently along with her mom, put together this party primarily as a means to sell tickets to another event, Make It Clap Pt 2, which was supposed to happen in late June.

This was a massive blowout held in a private community, fully equipped with a DJ, advertised on social media to hundreds of people, but never once cleared with the local homeowners association. It was also promoted as a pool party (hence the giant image of a pool on the flyer), even though the pool is off limits to non-residents, unless they are guests of residents. Residents have a limited number of friends they can invite. I’m not sure what the number is, but I assume it’s somewhere south of 100.

The organizers claim they got permission, but the HOA confirmed to local media that they neither sought it nor received it. This fact is essential, because it confirms two things: 1) The people who threw this party did not care about respecting the clearly outlined rules of the community, and 2) They don’t mind lying.

Can't wait for "Make it Clap Pt2" in a few weeks.

All of North Texas is waiting with anticipation.

(06-09-2015 09:04 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 04:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  More and more facts continue to roll out, giving new perspective to what really happened.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bl...areButtons

Quote:If you live near McKinney, Texas and you like to party, you might have been aware of the Dime Piece Cookout before it went down this past Friday.

It was advertised heavily on Twitter for a full month leading up to the event, and organized by a professional promoter named Tatiana Rhodes. Rhodes is a grown woman who, apparently along with her mom, put together this party primarily as a means to sell tickets to another event, Make It Clap Pt 2, which was supposed to happen in late June.

This was a massive blowout held in a private community, fully equipped with a DJ, advertised on social media to hundreds of people, but never once cleared with the local homeowners association. It was also promoted as a pool party (hence the giant image of a pool on the flyer), even though the pool is off limits to non-residents, unless they are guests of residents. Residents have a limited number of friends they can invite. I’m not sure what the number is, but I assume it’s somewhere south of 100.

The organizers claim they got permission, but the HOA confirmed to local media that they neither sought it nor received it. This fact is essential, because it confirms two things: 1) The people who threw this party did not care about respecting the clearly outlined rules of the community, and 2) They don’t mind lying.

Can't wait for "Make it Clap Pt2" in a few weeks.

All of North Texas is waiting with anticipation.

By the way the "young lady" in the purple top that gave the self-serving "interview" that blamed all the violence on the Caucasian residents and McKinney Police was working with @Keef_cakz to SELL tickets to #makeitclappt2 at this "cookout"

It's real easy to resolve this matter: Subpoena everyone Identified as being at the incident to appear before a Collin County Grand Jury to testify as to what they saw.

These "Protesters" are claiming Civil Rights Violations. These are serious charges worthy of a Collin County/DPS/Texas Rangers Investigaton into all aspects of the lead up to the incident in question.

Put them all under Oath and on the Record.

I bet most of the accusers "vacate the jurisdiction" & attempt to avoid Testimony

(06-09-2015 09:04 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 04:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  More and more facts continue to roll out, giving new perspective to what really happened.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bl...areButtons

Quote:If you live near McKinney, Texas and you like to party, you might have been aware of the Dime Piece Cookout before it went down this past Friday.

It was advertised heavily on Twitter for a full month leading up to the event, and organized by a professional promoter named Tatiana Rhodes. Rhodes is a grown woman who, apparently along with her mom, put together this party primarily as a means to sell tickets to another event, Make It Clap Pt 2, which was supposed to happen in late June.

This was a massive blowout held in a private community, fully equipped with a DJ, advertised on social media to hundreds of people, but never once cleared with the local homeowners association. It was also promoted as a pool party (hence the giant image of a pool on the flyer), even though the pool is off limits to non-residents, unless they are guests of residents. Residents have a limited number of friends they can invite. I’m not sure what the number is, but I assume it’s somewhere south of 100.

The organizers claim they got permission, but the HOA confirmed to local media that they neither sought it nor received it. This fact is essential, because it confirms two things: 1) The people who threw this party did not care about respecting the clearly outlined rules of the community, and 2) They don’t mind lying.

Can't wait for "Make it Clap Pt2" in a few weeks.

All of North Texas is waiting with anticipation.

Also it makes 90% of the "attendees" at the Pool to be Trespasers and subject to Law Enforcement DETENTiON. If you resist lawful grounds for Detention then you are resisting arrest and thus:

"Swing your partner Doesy Doe. Let's all do the Pool Party Throw"

I want the Penicillin Sales Concession for Make It Clap Pt 2

(06-09-2015 08:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Can't wait for "Make it Clap Pt2" in a few weeks.

me too!

I'm hoping this time that the HOA hires a couple of those militia groups to work security this time--- especially now that Texas is going to open carry.

(06-09-2015 09:34 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:04 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 08:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 04:45 PM)Kronke Wrote:  More and more facts continue to roll out, giving new perspective to what really happened.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/bl...areButtons

Quote:If you live near McKinney, Texas and you like to party, you might have been aware of the Dime Piece Cookout before it went down this past Friday.

It was advertised heavily on Twitter for a full month leading up to the event, and organized by a professional promoter named Tatiana Rhodes. Rhodes is a grown woman who, apparently along with her mom, put together this party primarily as a means to sell tickets to another event, Make It Clap Pt 2, which was supposed to happen in late June.

This was a massive blowout held in a private community, fully equipped with a DJ, advertised on social media to hundreds of people, but never once cleared with the local homeowners association. It was also promoted as a pool party (hence the giant image of a pool on the flyer), even though the pool is off limits to non-residents, unless they are guests of residents. Residents have a limited number of friends they can invite. I’m not sure what the number is, but I assume it’s somewhere south of 100.

The organizers claim they got permission, but the HOA confirmed to local media that they neither sought it nor received it. This fact is essential, because it confirms two things: 1) The people who threw this party did not care about respecting the clearly outlined rules of the community, and 2) They don’t mind lying.

Can't wait for "Make it Clap Pt2" in a few weeks.

All of North Texas is waiting with anticipation.

By the way the "young lady" in the purple top that gave the self-serving "interview" that blamed all the violence on the Caucasian residents and McKinney Police was working with @Keef_cakz to SELL tickets to #makeitclappt2 at this "cookout"

It's real easy to resolve this matter: Subpoena everyone Identified as being at the incident to appear before a Collin County Grand Jury to testify as to what they saw.

These "Protesters" are claiming Civil Rights Violations. These are serious charges worthy of a Collin County/DPS/Texas Rangers Investigaton into all aspects of the lead up to the incident in question.

Put them all under Oath and on the Record.

I bet most of the accusers "vacate the jurisdiction" & attempt to avoid Testimony

Collin County is a very conservative area. If this ever went to court, most juries wouldn't put up with trespassing punks. But I think only one person was arrested and that was an adult. The teens are off the hook.

I wonder if the out-of-town goon protesters will get paid. Some are still waiting for paychecks from Ferguson last summer.

(06-09-2015 07:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The kids were punks. Climbing over the walls after properly being denied entry. Cursing the residents and the cops. Starting fights. Not complying with reasonable requests/commands from the police. The bad behavior was endless.

But that one officer appeared to overreact by cursing at the kids and escalating the situation instead of diffusing it. He could have/should have handled it better. And he lost his job.

It would be easier to police if the public was decent.

That one cop, a Corporal, had been on scene for 25 minutes or so before the video started according to folks there. So, do YOU know what was going on prior to the cameras and the other po-po showing up?

I certainly don't, so I'm real slow to cast blame here. Who knows what kind of mayhem he walked into, many of the (now threatened) residents, black and white, tell a very different story.

As we've seen only too often of late, the early story is often crap, the actual story tells a very different one. One that makes the progs and race hustlers very uncomfy.

We'll see.

He walked into an impossible situation. Punks running around, looking to defy any authority and get away with as much crap as they could. Bad stuff will happen when the police are outnumbered 10:1.

But the other officers appeared to be more professional and in control. There was a difference in temperament. The facts will come out and in the end he may not look that bad.

My main concern at this point is that the cretans protesting are going to like McKinney a lot more than the pos city they came from and they end up staying here.

They probably couldn't afford Collin County on what Soros pays them.

(06-09-2015 08:54 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 07:58 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 12:08 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:38 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:31 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  FIFY

Ok... What happened before that? Did this mom really assault this kid or not? Besides, they shouldn't have been there in the first place. When do we get to hear the adults side of the story?

Multiple eyewitnesses said that the mom slapped the kid and called her a racial epithet.

Great but wtf led up to that?

You'll co-sign anything.

FWIW, I've never co-signed anything in my life and I don't plan on it.

what blows my mind is that nobody ever points out any wrong doing of any of these kids in the media. It is all just the big bad cop. nobody points out that the girl is resisting, which is a no no. if a cop is telling you to get on the ground, you do it. even if that cop is being a dick. then if you don't, he will make you. when he makes you, don't resist. why does the media not point this out? the cop probably over reacted, but I didn't see the entire scene. but still, when a cop tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't comply, there are consequences.

Just like with the Ferguson case. people who supported that moron michael brown didn't want to acknowledge that this thug reached for the cops gun. But noooooo!!!! he was a gentle giant.

(06-10-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  what blows my mind is that nobody ever points out any wrong doing of any of these kids in the media. It is all just the big bad cop. nobody points out that the girl is resisting, which is a no no. if a cop is telling you to get on the ground, you do it. even if that cop is being a dick. then if you don't, he will make you. when he makes you, don't resist. why does the media not point this out? the cop probably over reacted, but I didn't see the entire scene. but still, when a cop tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't comply, there are consequences.

Just like with the Ferguson case. people who supported that moron michael brown didn't want to acknowledge that this thug reached for the cops gun. But noooooo!!!! he was a gentle giant.

Because that's the narrative the media is selling. Look, there were 11 cops there that did everything right, and one that shouldn't have drawn his weapon. Any idea why the media isn't focusing on the 11 cops that did the right thing?

(06-10-2015 08:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-10-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  what blows my mind is that nobody ever points out any wrong doing of any of these kids in the media. It is all just the big bad cop. nobody points out that the girl is resisting, which is a no no. if a cop is telling you to get on the ground, you do it. even if that cop is being a dick. then if you don't, he will make you. when he makes you, don't resist. why does the media not point this out? the cop probably over reacted, but I didn't see the entire scene. but still, when a cop tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't comply, there are consequences.

Just like with the Ferguson case. people who supported that moron michael brown didn't want to acknowledge that this thug reached for the cops gun. But noooooo!!!! he was a gentle giant.

Because that's the narrative the media is selling. Look, there were 11 cops there that did everything right, and one that shouldn't have drawn his weapon. Any idea why the media isn't focusing on the 11 cops that did the right thing?

while I think that him drawing his weapon was questionable, I don't think it was totally uncalled for. Two kids were running in towards him. How was he to know they weren't about to jump him? Now granted, the cop also escalated things unnecessary, but again, if a cop is holding down your friend, you stay the hell back.

(06-10-2015 08:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(06-10-2015 08:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-10-2015 07:52 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  what blows my mind is that nobody ever points out any wrong doing of any of these kids in the media. It is all just the big bad cop. nobody points out that the girl is resisting, which is a no no. if a cop is telling you to get on the ground, you do it. even if that cop is being a dick. then if you don't, he will make you. when he makes you, don't resist. why does the media not point this out? the cop probably over reacted, but I didn't see the entire scene. but still, when a cop tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't comply, there are consequences.

Just like with the Ferguson case. people who supported that moron michael brown didn't want to acknowledge that this thug reached for the cops gun. But noooooo!!!! he was a gentle giant.

Because that's the narrative the media is selling. Look, there were 11 cops there that did everything right, and one that shouldn't have drawn his weapon. Any idea why the media isn't focusing on the 11 cops that did the right thing?

while I think that him drawing his weapon was questionable, I don't think it was totally uncalled for. Two kids were running in towards him. How was he to know they weren't about to jump him? Now granted, the cop also escalated things unnecessary, but again, if a cop is holding down your friend, you stay the hell back.

IMO, he was acting on instinct and not his training. None of the other cops pulled their guns. Anyway, it's unfortunate in that he resigned and the kids are getting away with acting like knuckleheads. Hopefully, some of their parents knock some sense into them.

I totally agree. That's why I say I don't totally agree with the decision, but I can see why he would have.