@UABVictory: UAB travel costs could increase by as much as $1,000,000 if they join Missouri Valley Conference http://t.co/Cw4Oc4E4OK

For those of you not keeping up with the tons of stuff that seems to happen every week on this situation. Construction at UAB is coming to a halt. Watts can't meet with them because he has had too many lies exposed now.

"The Birmingham City Council will continue to delay approval of normally routine permit requests from UAB until president Ray Watts meets with them, members agreed this evening."

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index...._to_m.html

(05-17-2015 09:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  @UABVictory: UAB travel costs could increase by as much as $1,000,000 if they join Missouri Valley Conference http://t.co/Cw4Oc4E4OK

I dislike Watts more every day.

(05-17-2015 01:02 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It is so amusing that many Sun Belt posters, while they do not agree with what happened to UAB Football sure as hell do not want it to see it reinstated. That is why I will take great pleasure in seeing UAB Football reinstated and ready for play in 2016.

There most definitely are a number of Belt posters who don't want to see the UAB football program reinstated because they see it as their only way out of that conference. Those who know my views on this subject know that I'm not one of them. Personally, I'd rather see some long-term stability at our level so programs can get about building their brands and developing rivals. That's quite a bit harder to do when there's a constant schuffle going on.

My generally negative comments about the topic at hand have nothing to do with personal desires and everything to do with the view of the overall landscape. Perhaps it's just my age and life experiences kicking in as I'm less prone these days to youthful exhuberence.

Many years ago I had a father-in-law diagnosed with lung cancer. He, and his family were, of course, very hopeful about treatment and his ultimate cure. I recall pulling his doctor aside one day and asking about the prognosis. His doctor told me that there are two main types of lung cancer. One he said is a really nasty, aggressive, difficult-to-treat type. The other, worse. I think you all know the final outcome.

As it relates to a successful UAB program, I view Ray Watts and the Bama BOT as those two types of cancer, Watts the lesser, the BOT as the worst. Until they've been totally removed somehow, I think you guys are in for a long struggle regardless of the decision handed down on 1 June.

Also, if UAB football is brought back to life, I certainly hope the fans support the program. Let's be honest here, they didn't before when they had the chance and that was THE major chink in UAB's armor used by the BOT.

Don't give them an opening, ever again.

(05-16-2015 01:05 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  Over the last few weeks we have garnered $7.5 mil in pledges over the next 5 years, the city has pledged $2.75 mil over the next 5 years and the student SGA has asked for $25/ semester fee increase which would be $2.5 mil over the next 5 years. That's $2.55 mil/yr and we are just starting. Big boosters haven't chimed in yet.

Quote:UAB's athletic department would have an annual deficit of $3.165 million if it reinstated football, rifle and bowling, according to a school commissioned report, obtained by AL.com

Quote:CSS deduced that both continuing to exist without the three sports and reinstating them were "viable options" for UAB. However, it also stated in the report that due to the strong desire throughout the community for the sports to return a decision to reinstate them would boost donations greater than current levels.

"It would foster much goodwill and stimulate a substantial amount of spiritual and financial support from alumni, donors, ticket holders, friends, students, faculty and the community," CSS wrote. "It could create a unique opportunity, not only through that support, but also through unprecedented positive national attention to the University."

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...ch_it.html

I'm that the last paragraph would be true for the 1st year, but what about 5 years from now? I really doubt those donors would have the same vigor. As history has shown.

(05-17-2015 09:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  @UABVictory: UAB travel costs could increase by as much as $1,000,000 if they join Missouri Valley Conference http://t.co/Cw4Oc4E4OK

Thats a big win imo.

(05-17-2015 08:30 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 01:02 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It is so amusing that many Sun Belt posters, while they do not agree with what happened to UAB Football sure as hell do not want it to see it reinstated. That is why I will take great pleasure in seeing UAB Football reinstated and ready for play in 2016.

Agree.

I hope you're not referring to me in this statement. I've already said... in THIS forum... I wouldn't want to be in C-USA without UAB in it anyway. On Al.Com I've been a huge advocate for you guys ("GunTotingLib") and I do hope I'm wrong about UAB football, but I'm convinced I'm not. That is not the same thing as rooting for the worst outcome, sport.

What I'm rooting for is UAB to reinstate their football program and then maybe I'd root for USA to join C-USA. The upside would obviously be the basketball superiority. The downside would be seeing Ladd-Peebles empty on Saturdays when the all the FU's, UNT's and the UNCC's come to town. C-USA seems to have a bunch of those while the SBC has just a couple of them.

(05-17-2015 11:21 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 01:05 AM)UABGrad Wrote:  Over the last few weeks we have garnered $7.5 mil in pledges over the next 5 years, the city has pledged $2.75 mil over the next 5 years and the student SGA has asked for $25/ semester fee increase which would be $2.5 mil over the next 5 years. That's $2.55 mil/yr and we are just starting. Big boosters haven't chimed in yet.

Quote:UAB's athletic department would have an annual deficit of $3.165 million if it reinstated football, rifle and bowling, according to a school commissioned report, obtained by AL.com

Quote:CSS deduced that both continuing to exist without the three sports and reinstating them were "viable options" for UAB. However, it also stated in the report that due to the strong desire throughout the community for the sports to return a decision to reinstate them would boost donations greater than current levels.

"It would foster much goodwill and stimulate a substantial amount of spiritual and financial support from alumni, donors, ticket holders, friends, students, faculty and the community," CSS wrote. "It could create a unique opportunity, not only through that support, but also through unprecedented positive national attention to the University."

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/...ch_it.html

I'm that the last paragraph would be true for the 1st year, but what about 5 years from now? I really doubt those donors would have the same vigor. As history has shown.

Did the report include costs to improve facilities & COA?

(05-17-2015 11:42 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 08:30 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 01:02 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It is so amusing that many Sun Belt posters, while they do not agree with what happened to UAB Football sure as hell do not want it to see it reinstated. That is why I will take great pleasure in seeing UAB Football reinstated and ready for play in 2016.

Agree.

I hope you're not referring to me in this statement. I've already said... in THIS forum... I wouldn't want to be in C-USA without UAB in it anyway. On Al.Com I've been a huge advocate for you guys ("GunTotingLib") and I do hope I'm wrong about UAB football, but I'm convinced I'm not. That is not the same thing as rooting for the worst outcome, sport.

What I'm rooting for is UAB to reinstate their football program and then maybe I'd root for USA to join C-USA. The upside would obviously be the basketball superiority. The downside would be seeing Ladd-Peebles empty on Saturdays when the all the FU's, UNT's and the UNCC's come to town. C-USA seems to have a bunch of those while the SBC has just a couple of them.

Ladd peebles is empty all the time anyway. Any of us can have a nice crowd when we host an sec school, but your attendance otherwise has been unremarkable at best.

Us peons don't get to see the report until tomorrow. I am pretty sure it includes a COA of $5200.

I have no clue if facilities improvements are included. I have a suspicion we are going to be hearing something good about facilities this week independent of this study.

It will be interesting if the state how long it will take to get UAB football up to FBS level. To be done right, it probably would take 3-4 years and would CUSA be willing to wait. If it is backup by 2016, what quality would it be? It seems if is a 1 or 2 win teams in the next three years, support will drop again. Curious what the NCAA rules are even for such a scenario of a sport being dropped and added back.

(05-17-2015 12:50 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  It will be interesting if the state how long it will take to get UAB football up to FBS level. To be done right, it probably would take 3-4 years and would CUSA be willing to wait. If it is backup by 2016, what quality would it be? It seems if is a 1 or 2 win teams in the next three years, support will drop again. Curious what the NCAA rules are even for such a scenario of a sport being dropped and added back.

You guys are making it seem as if UAB has been out of FBS level for years now. Granted we'll have some recruiting to do but not all 85 scholarship players left UAB. Sources on BlazerTalk have indicated 40-45 players are still on campus.

CUSA and Bano has indicated the desire for UAB Football to be reinstated. They probably also understand this isn't going to be the 2014 UAB Football team and it will take a couple of years to get back to that level. And it may not take that long.

(05-17-2015 12:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 11:42 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 08:30 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 01:02 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It is so amusing that many Sun Belt posters, while they do not agree with what happened to UAB Football sure as hell do not want it to see it reinstated. That is why I will take great pleasure in seeing UAB Football reinstated and ready for play in 2016.

Agree.

I hope you're not referring to me in this statement. I've already said... in THIS forum... I wouldn't want to be in C-USA without UAB in it anyway. On Al.Com I've been a huge advocate for you guys ("GunTotingLib") and I do hope I'm wrong about UAB football, but I'm convinced I'm not. That is not the same thing as rooting for the worst outcome, sport.

What I'm rooting for is UAB to reinstate their football program and then maybe I'd root for USA to join C-USA. The upside would obviously be the basketball superiority. The downside would be seeing Ladd-Peebles empty on Saturdays when the all the FU's, UNT's and the UNCC's come to town. C-USA seems to have a bunch of those while the SBC has just a couple of them.

Ladd peebles is empty all the time anyway. Any of us can have a nice crowd when we host an sec school, but your attendance otherwise has been unremarkable at best.

Not too many G5 teams have "remarkable" attendance. We are right there with the rest of 'em for the most part. It's teams like Gardiner-Webb or UNCC who come in once or twice a year and kill our attendance averages, which gets back to the point I made in my post. So yeah, we sell the Mississippi State game out then along comes an "FIU" and 9,000 show up. That's life in the AAA leagues.

Your commish has already gone on record to state C-USA would be willing to work with UAB on a time table.

(05-17-2015 01:23 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 12:25 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 11:42 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 08:30 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 01:02 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It is so amusing that many Sun Belt posters, while they do not agree with what happened to UAB Football sure as hell do not want it to see it reinstated. That is why I will take great pleasure in seeing UAB Football reinstated and ready for play in 2016.

Agree.

I hope you're not referring to me in this statement. I've already said... in THIS forum... I wouldn't want to be in C-USA without UAB in it anyway. On Al.Com I've been a huge advocate for you guys ("GunTotingLib") and I do hope I'm wrong about UAB football, but I'm convinced I'm not. That is not the same thing as rooting for the worst outcome, sport.

What I'm rooting for is UAB to reinstate their football program and then maybe I'd root for USA to join C-USA. The upside would obviously be the basketball superiority. The downside would be seeing Ladd-Peebles empty on Saturdays when the all the FU's, UNT's and the UNCC's come to town. C-USA seems to have a bunch of those while the SBC has just a couple of them.

Ladd peebles is empty all the time anyway. Any of us can have a nice crowd when we host an sec school, but your attendance otherwise has been unremarkable at best.

Not too many G5 teams have "remarkable" attendance. We are right there with the rest of 'em for the most part. It's teams like Gardiner-Webb or UNCC who come in once or twice a year and kill our attendance averages, which gets back to the point I made in my post. So yeah, we sell the Mississippi State game out then along comes an "FIU" and 9,000 show up. That's life in the AAA leagues.

Listen, if you are going to propose some how that USA is better than than Charlotte and FIU please go back to the Sunbelt Board where your proposals might be entertained.

(05-17-2015 01:31 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  Listen, if you are going to propose some how that USA is better than than Charlotte and FIU please go back to the Sunbelt Board where your proposals might be entertained.

I'm comfy right here, TYVM. It's not a proposal, it's a fact - USA was bowl eligible last year and the year before. That wasn't my point though - my POINT was the fact those teams don't interest our fans. One of our lowest ever attended games EVER was against FIU (we won, of course).

So now I guess I'm supposed to feel bad because I'm not thrilled at the thought of leaving the conference WE founded to enter into C-USA?

(05-17-2015 02:19 PM)airtroop Wrote:  So now I guess I'm supposed to feel bad because I'm not thrilled at the thought of leaving the conference WE founded to enter into C-USA?

Aren't you the poster posting this emoticons all over the place regarding UAB Football:

(05-17-2015 02:24 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 02:19 PM)airtroop Wrote:  So now I guess I'm supposed to feel bad because I'm not thrilled at the thought of leaving the conference WE founded to enter into C-USA?

Aren't you the poster posting this emoticons all over the place regarding UAB Football:

That's right. Now go back and read ALL of my posts concerning UAB. That's my prediction not my wish. There are many of us fitting that category, by the way.

(05-17-2015 01:06 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 12:50 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  It will be interesting if the state how long it will take to get UAB football up to FBS level. To be done right, it probably would take 3-4 years and would CUSA be willing to wait. If it is backup by 2016, what quality would it be? It seems if is a 1 or 2 win teams in the next three years, support will drop again. Curious what the NCAA rules are even for such a scenario of a sport being dropped and added back.

You guys are making it seem as if UAB has been out of FBS level for years now. Granted we'll have some recruiting to do but not all 85 scholarship players left UAB. Sources on BlazerTalk have indicated 40-45 players are still on campus.

CUSA and Bano has indicated the desire for UAB Football to be reinstated. They probably also understand this isn't going to be the 2014 UAB Football team and it will take a couple of years to get back to that level. And it may not take that long.

I keep hearing mention of the "40-45" players but how many are on scholarship? There were 55 transfers from an 85 team squad. I am not sure how many graduated to go along with the transfers but there is no way there are that many scholarships players on campus. The math does not add up.

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Airtroop wrote:

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RE: UAB report reveals costs to reinstate football
Your commish has already gone on record to state C-USA would be willing to work with UAB on a time table.

BENSON,
Your commish has already gone on record to state SBC would be willing to work with Liberty on a time table.

I like our prospects better!