(05-08-2015 07:55 AM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 07:45 AM)voss749 Wrote:  "Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I can't help but be disgusted by the biased nature of the media. Guy hits a couple of gays on the side of the road and it's under investigation as a hate crime by the fbi and gets plenty of coverage.

Kid is tied up, gagged with his own underwear, drugged, raped over a two months time and even killed by a couple of gays and I bet most everyone's never heard of the kid because the media ignored it. Wonder why....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jesse_Dirkhising"

Because that crime happened 16 years ago and was just an all too common sex crime. Also the perpetrators were caught and convicted and are spending life sentences in jail.

no I understand all that. They received the necessary punishment for their crimes. I was just speaking on the lack of media coverage. Even though it was 16 years ago it didn't get the coverage that it deserved. Maybe it's just me, it just seems like the media goes after the stories that fit the flavor of the month agenda, in which gay rights has recently been one of the 'big things' in the media.
Make no mistake about my feelings towards gays, I've lived with a few gay guys and have numerous gay friends, both guys and girls. I'm just tired of the apparent media agenda, not necessarily relating specific to this case, just in general.

You have to realize also that since gay rights issue have been the hot topic recently that any incident involving anything related to "gay issues" will always have a lot of media coverage. 16 years ago gay rights was never an issue because people still stayed some what in the closet.

(05-08-2015 12:40 AM)WEARE Wrote:  Considering my uncle is gay and I have donated time and money to gay rights campaigns, I think I understand that genius. This is exactly the point. You made an assumption without having any knowledge. Butler deserves everything headed his way.

Just FYI, your best season since the 70s was still behind Marshall, so there is a reason to doubt your motives. Besides, isnt it time you start your Marshall discussion on your board. I think all the Marshall threads on your board began about this time last year. I am sure you will get more support there.

(05-08-2015 08:09 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Right, because you are an idiot. The source of those quotes came from a hack of a "news source". And I have worked with Det. Sperry and know that he would not comment on an ongoing investigation. Now shut your stupid pie hole and quit causing trouble over here and piss off back to your ACK board. Moron.

I don't care if you two are Harvey Milk and Judy Garland...it doesn't change what the investigating detective said, in his own words. THUNDER apparently thinks he's dating Sperry and has the right to alter his words. you do not.

if the article was so terrible, where is he (Sperry) to deny all this?

"Now shut your stupid pie hole and quit causing trouble"

trouble is when your players go around beating up gay people, bringing the FBI to town to consider hate crime charges. you blame the media, me, everyone but guy on your team who actually did the crime...and the coach who tried to cover it all up.

you want to try to deflect by talking about conferences and your amazing season last year...but when your claim to fame is the "boca bowl" and a player who goes around committing potential hate crime...you may want to quit pretending you have the moral high ground...because you do not.

(05-08-2015 08:35 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  WOWK has posted video of the assault on facebook. And you really cant see very well at all.

isn't that for the HPD and FBI to decide?

(05-07-2015 01:47 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 12:23 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  You can tell it's a well researched article. Look at this factually accurate line:

"According to the NFL Draft results it appears none of the teams selected any Marshall University Bisons."

Yes. One irrelevant line about your mascot name completely invalidates the direct quotes from a police officer.

in Crazy Town, WV...it apparently does.

First of all, I never said anything about your football team. Nice try. Secondly, I support the fact that Butler was kicked off of the team. I never indicated anything to the contrary. I am saying that I know what HPD's policy is and that I find it surprising that he would say anything in regard to an ongoing investigation.

(05-08-2015 12:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 01:47 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 12:23 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  You can tell it's a well researched article. Look at this factually accurate line:

"According to the NFL Draft results it appears none of the teams selected any Marshall University Bisons."

Yes. One irrelevant line about your mascot name completely invalidates the direct quotes from a police officer.

in Crazy Town, WV...it apparently does.

(05-08-2015 12:59 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  First of all, I never said anything about your football team. Nice try. Secondly, I support the fact that Butler was kicked off of the team. I never indicated anything to the contrary. I am saying that I know what HPD's policy is and that I find it surprising that he would say anything in regard to an ongoing investigation.

hey genius, I quoted two users posts...so use your brain and figure out which parts apply to you...it's called critical thinking, which they clearly don't teach at NQ-U.

I love how you left out the part about a Marshall coach not cooperating in the investigation.

the spin is in effect with the Marshall fans.

Furthermore...Yes, it is up to HPD and the FBI to decide if he can be identified insofar as probable cause. Please tell me where I posted that either was or wasn't Butler. I just said that it was difficult to see anything and as a former police officer and investigator (not for HPD), I think I have a pretty good grasp on these things. But thank you for your concern.

(05-08-2015 06:15 AM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I can't help but be disgusted by the biased nature of the media. Guy hits a couple of gays on the side of the road and it's under investigation as a hate crime by the fbi and gets plenty of coverage.

Kid is tied up, gagged with his own underwear, drugged, raped over a two months time and even killed by a couple of gays and I bet most everyone's never heard of the kid because the media ignored it. Wonder why....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jesse_Dirkhising

Probably the same reason they completely ignore black on white murders.. It doesn't support their agenda.
Just take a look at all the black on white murders that have received no national coverage
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

I'm NOT condoning any of this behavior whatsoever. It's just that the media totally disgusts me and their agenda is very apparent and people should be aware of the way the mainstream media is picking and choosing what to cover and what not to cover.

wow...

Jessie Dirkhising was like 12 or 13 if I remember...meaning he was killed by a pedophile.

gay men like other men, not little boys.

pedophiles like little kids.

class dismissed.

(05-08-2015 01:04 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Furthermore...Yes, it is up to HPD and the FBI to decide if he can be identified insofar as probable cause. Please tell me where I posted that either was or wasn't Butler. I just said that it was difficult to see anything and as a former police officer and investigator (not for HPD), I think I have a pretty good grasp on these things. But thank you for your concern.

look, Judy...I'm gonna need you to go back and slowly read over what I wrote...because you see I quoted 2 people...now put your thinking cap on and figure out which parts apply to you.

I know it's tough for Marshall folks to apply those critical thinking skills, but go ahead and give the ole NQ college try!

Um, you are a complete dullard. You are just another typical Memphis moron. Now piss off, asswipe.

And I went to a far more prestigious school than Memphis State :lmao:

(05-08-2015 01:09 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Um, you are a complete dullard. You are just another typical Memphis moron. Now piss off, asswipe.

^ how to know when you've lost an argument...see bolded

(05-08-2015 01:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 06:15 AM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I can't help but be disgusted by the biased nature of the media. Guy hits a couple of gays on the side of the road and it's under investigation as a hate crime by the fbi and gets plenty of coverage.

Kid is tied up, gagged with his own underwear, drugged, raped over a two months time and even killed by a couple of gays and I bet most everyone's never heard of the kid because the media ignored it. Wonder why....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jesse_Dirkhising

Probably the same reason they completely ignore black on white murders.. It doesn't support their agenda.
Just take a look at all the black on white murders that have received no national coverage
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

I'm NOT condoning any of this behavior whatsoever. It's just that the media totally disgusts me and their agenda is very apparent and people should be aware of the way the mainstream media is picking and choosing what to cover and what not to cover.

wow...

Jessie Dirkhising was like 12 or 13 if I remember...meaning he was killed by a pedophile.

gay men like other men, not little boys.

pedophiles like little kids.

class dismissed.

Reading is hard, I know, "Dirkhising was raped by two men who were described as "lovers" in a police affidavit."

(05-08-2015 01:35 PM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 01:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 06:15 AM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I can't help but be disgusted by the biased nature of the media. Guy hits a couple of gays on the side of the road and it's under investigation as a hate crime by the fbi and gets plenty of coverage.

Kid is tied up, gagged with his own underwear, drugged, raped over a two months time and even killed by a couple of gays and I bet most everyone's never heard of the kid because the media ignored it. Wonder why....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jesse_Dirkhising

Probably the same reason they completely ignore black on white murders.. It doesn't support their agenda.
Just take a look at all the black on white murders that have received no national coverage
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

I'm NOT condoning any of this behavior whatsoever. It's just that the media totally disgusts me and their agenda is very apparent and people should be aware of the way the mainstream media is picking and choosing what to cover and what not to cover.

wow...

Jessie Dirkhising was like 12 or 13 if I remember...meaning he was killed by a pedophile.

gay men like other men, not little boys.

pedophiles like little kids.

class dismissed.

Reading is hard, I know, "Dirkhising was raped by two men who were described as "lovers" in a police affidavit."

point? the second you start fooling around with kids, you give up any allegiance you may have had to standard society.

good luck finding many folks to defend pedophiles...

that said, conservative hate groups like the AFA and NOM have been trying to link pedophiles and homosexuals for over 20 years now...so I should expect this from Marshall fans.

(05-08-2015 01:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 01:35 PM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 01:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 06:15 AM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I can't help but be disgusted by the biased nature of the media. Guy hits a couple of gays on the side of the road and it's under investigation as a hate crime by the fbi and gets plenty of coverage.

Kid is tied up, gagged with his own underwear, drugged, raped over a two months time and even killed by a couple of gays and I bet most everyone's never heard of the kid because the media ignored it. Wonder why....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jesse_Dirkhising

Probably the same reason they completely ignore black on white murders.. It doesn't support their agenda.
Just take a look at all the black on white murders that have received no national coverage
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

I'm NOT condoning any of this behavior whatsoever. It's just that the media totally disgusts me and their agenda is very apparent and people should be aware of the way the mainstream media is picking and choosing what to cover and what not to cover.

wow...

Jessie Dirkhising was like 12 or 13 if I remember...meaning he was killed by a pedophile.

gay men like other men, not little boys.

pedophiles like little kids.

class dismissed.

Reading is hard, I know, "Dirkhising was raped by two men who were described as "lovers" in a police affidavit."

point? the second you start fooling around with kids, you give up any allegiance you may have had to standard society.

good luck finding many folks to defend pedophiles...

that said, conservative hate groups like the AFA and NOM have been trying to link pedophiles and homosexuals for over 20 years now...so I should expect this from Marshall fans.

Change the kid's age to 18 and the point still remains. The culprits were gay and it didn't get media coverage that it probably would have if it were straight men doing something of that nature to a gay man or boy or whatever he may be. Just commenting on my observation in regards to the media, that's all bud.

(05-08-2015 01:54 PM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 01:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 01:35 PM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 01:05 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 06:15 AM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I can't help but be disgusted by the biased nature of the media. Guy hits a couple of gays on the side of the road and it's under investigation as a hate crime by the fbi and gets plenty of coverage.

Kid is tied up, gagged with his own underwear, drugged, raped over a two months time and even killed by a couple of gays and I bet most everyone's never heard of the kid because the media ignored it. Wonder why....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jesse_Dirkhising

Probably the same reason they completely ignore black on white murders.. It doesn't support their agenda.
Just take a look at all the black on white murders that have received no national coverage
http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html

I'm NOT condoning any of this behavior whatsoever. It's just that the media totally disgusts me and their agenda is very apparent and people should be aware of the way the mainstream media is picking and choosing what to cover and what not to cover.

wow...

Jessie Dirkhising was like 12 or 13 if I remember...meaning he was killed by a pedophile.

gay men like other men, not little boys.

pedophiles like little kids.

class dismissed.

Reading is hard, I know, "Dirkhising was raped by two men who were described as "lovers" in a police affidavit."

point? the second you start fooling around with kids, you give up any allegiance you may have had to standard society.

good luck finding many folks to defend pedophiles...

that said, conservative hate groups like the AFA and NOM have been trying to link pedophiles and homosexuals for over 20 years now...so I should expect this from Marshall fans.

Change the kid's age to 18 and the point still remains. The culprits were gay and it didn't get media coverage that it probably would have if it were straight men doing something of that nature to a gay man or boy or whatever he may be. Just commenting on my observation in regards to the media, that's all bud.

Pal, the pedophile culprits were caught, and sentenced to life...

If a straight guy messed around with some 7th grade little girl...he's a pedophile...not a "straight-pedophile"

Only place you hear such things is from Maggie Gallagher at NOM, AFA, and Peter LaBarbera at AFTAH.

You've been drinking the kool-aid

Dude I don't even know who any of those people or organizations are. I don't align myself to either side politically. Like I said, it was just an observation in regards to media coverage on gay violent crime versus straight on gay violent crime. Not sure why you keep harping on the pedophile thing. It just an example.

(05-08-2015 02:07 PM)SPACESCAPE Wrote:  Dude I don't even know who any of those people or organizations are. I don't align myself to either side politically. Like I said, it was just an observation in regards to media coverage on gay violent crime versus straight on gay violent crime. Not sure why you keep harping on the pedophile thing. It just an example.

But bro, I'm simply pointing out your example from 16 years ago is outdated, and the conclusions you draw from it are incorrect.

First: calling the Old Dominion guy a "typical Marshall fan" is kind of strange. Reminds me of working at Marshall student radio, and one of our broadcasters got feedback in a national contest about his "West Virginia accent."

He was born and raised in Virginia Beach.

Second, don't let little things like facts get in the way of blatant stoking of fire by a so-called journalist. HPD is notoriously mum on active investigations. No Det. is going to suddenly be an open book to a no name "journalist."

Here's the real story. No stonewalling from the university, per the police chief and the mayor. I'll take their words to a reputable media outlet over a site I'd never heard of any day. To me, it was click bait and an intended slam at the state of West Virginia. We're used to that type of geographical misrepresentation by such "journalists."

Anyway, read this.

UPDATE: Investigators: Online 'Stonewalling' Article Not Accurate in Butler Case
http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/MU-Fo...67091.html

Note: I'm not making a single excuse for Butler. He's gone. As he should be, regardless of who the victims were.