‏@grantmilner Neither played a major role last season, but D'Marnier Cunningham and Jordan Manse are both transferring from Memphis.

Cunningham should not have been here in the first place. No idea if Manse is a loss or not, I know his rep was as a 3 point specialist, but at least we have gotten a wasted scholarship back. And I'm also wondering if this was Pastner needing the scholarship for a better player, and these guys being told it wasn't going to happen here.

Can a sunshine pumper tell me if we are allowed to count these 2 toward Pastner's total transfer count or no? Thanks. On the bright side, at least the team next year won't be a bunch of newcomers gelling...

I don't even know who is on the team anymore.

Pastner doing what he has to do His top recruit will be a assistant coach who can teach and practice the kids

(04-14-2015 02:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don't even know who is on the team anymore.

Bold is a maybe - 12 scholarship and 1 walk-on as of today.

Nick Marshall C 6-10 FR Lexington, Tennessee
Austin Nichols F 6-9 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Shaq Goodwin F 6-8 SR Decatur, Georgia
Dedric Lawson F 6-8 FR Memphis, Tennessee
Trahson Burrell F 6-7 SR Albany, New York
KJ Lawson F 6-7 FR Memphis, Tennessee
Chris Hawkins F 6-5 SR Sun Prairie, Wisconsin
Jake McDowell G 6-5 JR Memphis, Tennessee (w/o)
Markel Crawford G 6-4 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Kedren Johnson G 6-4 SR Lewisburg, Tennessee
Avery Woodson G 6-3 JR Waynesboro, Mississippi
Randall Broddie G 6-3 FR Oxon Hill, Maryland
Jeremiah Martin G 6-2 FR Memphis, Tennessee

(04-14-2015 02:37 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Pastner doing what he has to do His top recruit will be a assistant coach who can teach and practice the kids

Link?

(04-14-2015 02:27 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  Cunningham should not have been here in the first place. No idea if Manse is a loss or not, I know his rep was as a 3 point specialist, but at least we have gotten a wasted scholarship back. And I'm also wondering if this was Pastner needing the scholarship for a better player, and these guys being told it wasn't going to happen here.

Josh the Evaluator begs to differ:

http://memphis.247sports.com/Bolt/Pastne...m-32271554

"Memphis head coach Josh Pastner met with the media on Wednesday, and while the main topic of discussion was the health of Austin Nichols, Pastner digressed for a moment regarding the status of his backcourt.

Newcomer Kedren Johnson and sophomore Pookie Powell are thought to be the contenders for the starting job at point guard; but it sounds like if it weren't for the fact that he'll miss the first seven games to open the 2014-15 season, there would be a third guard in the mix: D'Marnier Cunningham.

“I’m telling you, if he was eligible to play the first seven games, he would be pushing for a position, a high rotation spot or even a lineup spot," Pastner said. "He changes the way we play with his speed. He’s good. He’s gotten a lot better and was a guy that was a no-star recruit. Not even Division II schools wanted him. He didn’t even have offers.

"He changes the complexion of our team because of how fast he is. D’Marnier is just a jitterbug that can do some different things that cause defenses problems.”

(04-14-2015 02:38 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2015 02:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don't even know who is on the team anymore.

Bold is a maybe - 12 scholarship and 1 walk-on as of today.

Nick Marshall C 6-10 FR Lexington, Tennessee
Austin Nichols F 6-9 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Shaq Goodwin F 6-8 SR Decatur, Georgia
Dedric Lawson F 6-8 FR Memphis, Tennessee
Trahson Burrell F 6-7 SR Albany, New York
KJ Lawson F 6-7 FR Memphis, Tennessee
Chris Hawkins F 6-5 SR Sun Prairie, Wisconsin
Jake McDowell G 6-5 JR Memphis, Tennessee (w/o)
Markel Crawford G 6-4 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Kedren Johnson G 6-4 SR Lewisburg, Tennessee
Avery Woodson G 6-3 JR Waynesboro, Mississippi
Randall Broddie G 6-3 FR Oxon Hill, Maryland
Jeremiah Martin G 6-2 FR Memphis, Tennessee

So possibly seven newcomers?

(04-14-2015 02:38 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-14-2015 02:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don't even know who is on the team anymore.

Bold is a maybe - 12 scholarship and 1 walk-on as of today.

Nick Marshall C 6-10 FR Lexington, Tennessee
Austin Nichols F 6-9 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Shaq Goodwin F 6-8 SR Decatur, Georgia
Dedric Lawson F 6-8 FR Memphis, Tennessee
Trahson Burrell F 6-7 SR Albany, New York
KJ Lawson F 6-7 FR Memphis, Tennessee
Chris Hawkins F 6-5 SR Sun Prairie, Wisconsin
Jake McDowell G 6-5 JR Memphis, Tennessee (w/o)
Markel Crawford G 6-4 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Kedren Johnson G 6-4 SR Lewisburg, Tennessee
Avery Woodson G 6-3 JR Waynesboro, Mississippi
Randall Broddie G 6-3 FR Oxon Hill, Maryland
Jeremiah Martin G 6-2 FR Memphis, Tennessee

For some reason I thought Hawkins was gone too but I dont have any idea where I got that from.

It was rumored he could be gone, but I haven't seen anything official yet.

My guess is everyone should be happy that Josh apparently is upgrading the roster. There is nothing wrong with being honest and telling a player that his playing time is going to be limited next year and maybe FOREVER. This is especially smart if you have an idea of a substantially better player that you can bring in to replace them. I don't think this is anything new to college basketball. Part of a coaches job it to evaluate players once you see them in action to determine if they have a future. Case in point, I think when Cal brought our recruiting class to Kentucky, he had meetings with 3 or 4 players on the UK roster and all of them announced they were going to transfer immediately. He had to make room for our players, so that is how he did it.

#butthurt

(04-14-2015 03:09 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  #butthurt

I think if Josh jumped into a flaming inferno, some folks on here would jump in behind him.

(04-14-2015 03:05 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  My guess is everyone should be happy that Josh apparently is upgrading the roster. There is nothing wrong with being honest and telling a player that his playing time is going to be limited next year and maybe FOREVER. This is especially smart if you have an idea of a substantially better player that you can bring in to replace them. I don't think this is anything new to college basketball. Part of a coaches job it to evaluate players once you see them in action to determine if they have a future. Case in point, I think when Cal brought our recruiting class to Kentucky, he had meetings with 3 or 4 players on the UK roster and all of them announced they were going to transfer immediately. He had to make room for our players, so that is how he did it.

Unless you are bringing in Kentucky level players, constant roster turnover is on not a long term plan that results in upgrades... It results in inconsistency and chemistry problems...

(04-14-2015 03:11 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-14-2015 03:05 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  My guess is everyone should be happy that Josh apparently is upgrading the roster. There is nothing wrong with being honest and telling a player that his playing time is going to be limited next year and maybe FOREVER. This is especially smart if you have an idea of a substantially better player that you can bring in to replace them. I don't think this is anything new to college basketball. Part of a coaches job it to evaluate players once you see them in action to determine if they have a future. Case in point, I think when Cal brought our recruiting class to Kentucky, he had meetings with 3 or 4 players on the UK roster and all of them announced they were going to transfer immediately. He had to make room for our players, so that is how he did it.

Unless you are bringing in Kentucky level players, constant roster turnover is on not a long term plan that results in upgrades... It results in inconsistency and chemistry problems...

^^^^^

Program building 101.

(04-14-2015 03:14 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2015 03:11 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-14-2015 03:05 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  My guess is everyone should be happy that Josh apparently is upgrading the roster. There is nothing wrong with being honest and telling a player that his playing time is going to be limited next year and maybe FOREVER. This is especially smart if you have an idea of a substantially better player that you can bring in to replace them. I don't think this is anything new to college basketball. Part of a coaches job it to evaluate players once you see them in action to determine if they have a future. Case in point, I think when Cal brought our recruiting class to Kentucky, he had meetings with 3 or 4 players on the UK roster and all of them announced they were going to transfer immediately. He had to make room for our players, so that is how he did it.

Unless you are bringing in Kentucky level players, constant roster turnover is on not a long term plan that results in upgrades... It results in inconsistency and chemistry problems...

^^^^^

Program building 101.

Yep apples and oranges. The players Cal ran off at Kentucky that first year were not his recruits. Josh on the other hand has continually recruited transfers over the development of his own recruits. You had 3 seniors in Jackson, Crawford and Johnson yet he brought in Dixon. Brought Pellom in to the detriment of King, Iverson and even Nichols. This past year Godfrey, Kedren and Cunningham which killed Pookies development. Now he's looking at a 2 guard. I guess Markel gets benched now, the guy who probably has more potential than anyone.


Smh

The roster we have is looking pretty good. It does seem like a HELL of a lot of turnover though........

I don't have any confidence in Pastner's ability to mold a group of talented individuals into a team; I just don't.

Am I correct that Cunningham was told that he was "iffy" proposition as far as a scholarship/walk on status? Manse was a walkon although I don't know if it's weird that a walk-ons leave because I don't pay attention to them anyway

(04-14-2015 03:11 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(04-14-2015 03:05 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  My guess is everyone should be happy that Josh apparently is upgrading the roster. There is nothing wrong with being honest and telling a player that his playing time is going to be limited next year and maybe FOREVER. This is especially smart if you have an idea of a substantially better player that you can bring in to replace them. I don't think this is anything new to college basketball. Part of a coaches job it to evaluate players once you see them in action to determine if they have a future. Case in point, I think when Cal brought our recruiting class to Kentucky, he had meetings with 3 or 4 players on the UK roster and all of them announced they were going to transfer immediately. He had to make room for our players, so that is how he did it.

Unless you are bringing in Kentucky level players, constant roster turnover is on not a long term plan that results in upgrades... It results in inconsistency and chemistry problems...

Of course it is a short term fix. It is needed...is it not? If it doesn't work out next year he will be gone.