(04-01-2015 07:58 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The Austin Bowl would be a great addition for both C-USA West and the AAC West, though I'd rather it was played at the soon to be renovated Rice Stadium and called the Bluebonnet Bowl.
Anyway, I think it is the best news of the off season if it actually happens.
I was hoping we could get a Houston bowl
But Austin will be more doable than Bahamas or Arizona
I was hoping for a San Antonio bowl game before the Alamo Bowl
I'd love to see a San Antonio bowl too but Austin is a good location.
C-USA W is in great shape. Excellent bowls, close travel, decent rivals brewing.
If UAB can't get a team together Texas St would be a solid add to CUSA-W.
Texas State is one of the top 3 in the conversation.
(04-01-2015 07:58 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The Austin Bowl would be a great addition for both C-USA West and the AAC West, though I'd rather it was played at the soon to be renovated Rice Stadium and called the Bluebonnet Bowl.
Anyway, I think it is the best news of the off season if it actually happens.
I was hoping we could get a Houston bowl
But Austin will be more doable than Bahamas or Arizona
I was hoping for a San Antonio bowl game before the Alamo Bowl
I'd love to see a San Antonio bowl too but Austin is a good location.
C-USA W is in great shape. Excellent bowls, close travel, decent rivals brewing.
If UAB can't get a team together Texas St would be a solid add to CUSA-W.
Texas State is one of the top 3 in the conversation.
Who are the other 2? South Alabama? JMU? Team from Georgia?
(04-01-2015 07:58 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: The Austin Bowl would be a great addition for both C-USA West and the AAC West, though I'd rather it was played at the soon to be renovated Rice Stadium and called the Bluebonnet Bowl.
Anyway, I think it is the best news of the off season if it actually happens.
I was hoping we could get a Houston bowl
But Austin will be more doable than Bahamas or Arizona
I was hoping for a San Antonio bowl game before the Alamo Bowl
I'd love to see a San Antonio bowl too but Austin is a good location.
C-USA W is in great shape. Excellent bowls, close travel, decent rivals brewing.
If UAB can't get a team together Texas St would be a solid add to CUSA-W.
Texas State is one of the top 3 in the conversation.
That would be a huge step back in basketball. They haven't had a winning season in like 13 years.
I like Texas State, but Georgia State really impressed me with their win in the NCAA tourney. We really need another basketball driven school to step in for UAB. All that being said, I really hope UAB brings back football and end of conversation.
(04-02-2015 11:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: I like Texas State, but Georgia State really impressed me with their win in the NCAA tourney. We really need another basketball driven school to step in for UAB. All that being said, I really hope UAB brings back football and end of conversation.
I don't know if I would call Georgia State "basketball driven" and I thought we really needed a Western add. Otherwise, are MTSU & WKU splitting up?
Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
(04-02-2015 11:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: I like Texas State, but Georgia State really impressed me with their win in the NCAA tourney. We really need another basketball driven school to step in for UAB. All that being said, I really hope UAB brings back football and end of conversation.
I don't know if I would call Georgia State "basketball driven" and I thought we really needed a Western add. Otherwise, are MTSU & WKU splitting up?
I think New Mexico State is the best western basketball add.
(04-02-2015 11:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: I like Texas State, but Georgia State really impressed me with their win in the NCAA tourney. We really need another basketball driven school to step in for UAB. All that being said, I really hope UAB brings back football and end of conversation.
I don't know if I would call Georgia State "basketball driven" and I thought we really needed a Western add. Otherwise, are MTSU & WKU splitting up?
I think New Mexico State is the best western basketball add.
That would certainly hurt some feelings on the East coast.
(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
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(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
True but I thought UTEP didn't want them. Similar to La Tech and ULL or USM and USA.
That seems to be the problem in the West, any of the possible adds are vetoed by a current member.
(04-01-2015 09:28 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: Middle Tennessee thought they were better than us last year too. We would have thumped Marshall...much like we did them.
THIS year would be a different story..as we lost a bunch of starters from last year's defense...but our offense will be much more potent than last year's squad.
I always knew Memphis was delusional but I thought it was just in basketball. Marshall would have handled Memphis just as we did ECWho in 2013. They thought they would roll Marshall too. I don't know many who watched that game after the 1 quarter.
Marshall Demolishes ECWho by 31
The same thing would have happened the itty bitty tigers. Even though Marshall was down the entire time Memphis was in the same conference, Marshall was still 6-2 against Memphis. And as down as Marshall was from 03-12 we were still 9 games better than Memphis.
My guess is if Fuente has another good year, he will be gone like the wind.
Also enjoy Josh Pastner, he's done a bang up job the last 3 years of keeping Memphis the middle of the pack.
(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
True but I thought UTEP didn't want them. Similar to La Tech and ULL or USM and USA.
That seems to be the problem in the West, any of the possible adds are vetoed by a current member.
This is why Arkansas State will have the least resistance getting in. USA, NMSU, and ULL would all find resistance somewhere. Back to the topic at hand. There is no way AAC is going to be able to fill all their bowls every year. I suspect the MAC comes out the biggest winner in all this.
(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
Not the same. You are also adding a 800+ mile road trip for every west division football team. Texas St is the only one that gives the eastern teams an easy 2-for-1 AND is an easy travel destination for the western teams. UL-L and ArkSt are probably the most reasonable alternatives if TxSt was vetoed due to cannibalization issues. Now, if CUSA decides to alter the organizational documents to allow UAB to stay---you can make Texas State a football only member and not hurt basketball. Frankly, if the documents are altered--I'd add NMSU and Wichita as Olympic members and TxSt as a football-only member. That fixes football and gives basketball a nice shot in the arm.
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(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
Not the same. You are also adding a 800+ mile road trip for every west division football team. Texas St is the only one that gives the eastern teams an easy 2-for-1 AND is an easy travel destination for the western teams. UL-L and ArkSt are probably the most reasonable alternatives if TxSt was vetoed due to cannibalization issues. Now, if CUSA decides to alter the organizational documents to allow UAB to stay---you can make Texas State a football only member and not hurt basketball. Frankly, if the documents are altered--I'd add NMSU and Wichita as Olympic members and TxSt as a football-only member. That fixes football and gives basketball a nice shot in the arm.
It's only adding a trip for football once every two years. For other sports we schedule them on the same trip as UTEP.
(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
Not the same. You are also adding a 800+ mile road trip for every west division football team. Texas St is the only one that gives the eastern teams an easy 2-for-1 AND is an easy travel destination for the western teams. UL-L and ArkSt are probably the most reasonable alternatives if TxSt was vetoed due to cannibalization issues. Now, if CUSA decides to alter the organizational documents to allow UAB to stay---you can make Texas State a football only member and not hurt basketball. Frankly, if the documents are altered--I'd add NMSU and Wichita as Olympic members and TxSt as a football-only member. That fixes football and gives basketball a nice shot in the arm.
That would be awful.
I very much hope the presidents don't change the "gotta have football" rule (past maybe giving UAB a quick shot at bringing their program back).
I don't think a SB school would have any interest in being a football only member of CUSA anyway. And the SB wouldn't stand for it, so where are Texas State's other sports going to play? The WAC?
(04-02-2015 03:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Frankly, if the documents are altered--I'd add NMSU and Wichita as Olympic members and TxSt as a football-only member. That fixes football and gives basketball a nice shot in the arm.
Haha. Thanks for the laugh about Wichita St. Leaving the MVC for CUSA. The AAC, with Cincy, UConn and Memphis, would have a tough time pulling Wichita because each of those schools would leave in a heartbeat. The MVC is more likely to start poaching quality programs to stay with the A10 and challenge the big east.
(04-02-2015 11:24 AM)pilot172000 Wrote: Compared to some of the others, I would say they have a lot of potential. The East West thing is a problem. I don't know if we need another Texas or LA school. That give stAte a decent shot. I really hope we won't have to worry about it though. #FreeUAB
Yeah, the pick has to be from the west or you end up making someone shift from the east that doesn't want to. Texas St makes the most sense as it cuts travel costs for the east and the west (the eastern schools get a 2-for-one stop when heading to UTSA while the western schools get another easy trip). The question would be do the Texas teams feel it cannibalizes their audience/recruiting. If that's an issue, then Arky St or UL-L are the two next best choices.
You can get the same 2 for 1 trip by adding NMSU which is like 30 miles from UTEP...and the basketball dropoff isn't as bad.
Not the same. You are also adding a 800+ mile road trip for every west division football team. Texas St is the only one that gives the eastern teams an easy 2-for-1 AND is an easy travel destination for the western teams. UL-L and ArkSt are probably the most reasonable alternatives if TxSt was vetoed due to cannibalization issues. Now, if CUSA decides to alter the organizational documents to allow UAB to stay---you can make Texas State a football only member and not hurt basketball. Frankly, if the documents are altered--I'd add NMSU and Wichita as Olympic members and TxSt as a football-only member. That fixes football and gives basketball a nice shot in the arm.
Its more about who would get the least amount of boos when being mentioned at this point. Texas State, ULL, USA,NMST all have detractors. Arkansas State may or may not, IDK. Wichita just paid their BB coach millions of dollars to stay relevant so going into a football first conference is never going to happen.