By far the most disappointing season since I was a freshman back in 1984 and we had big Kenny Epperson only to lose in the first round to a very shabby Ball State team in old Centenial Hall.

This team has talent but no heart, look for them to be an early exit next week in MACMadness. All of those close home losses are coming back to bite this team now.

Gutless performance tonight. When the going gets tough, this team folds like a cheap deck of cards.

This team is going to be hard pressed to even receive a "CBI" tourney postseason invite.

(03-06-2015 08:37 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  This team is going to be hard pressed to even receive a "CBI" tourney postseason invite.

Don't deserve it. What they deserve is a Monday night home game.

(03-06-2015 08:43 PM)adunifon Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 08:37 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  This team is going to be hard pressed to even receive a "CBI" tourney postseason invite.

Don't deserve it. What they deserve is a Monday night home game.

Which with the way they have been playing, and the way they have played at home, they will likely lose.

Just like in last years MAC Championship game when they took the night off, very weak team mentally even with all of the talent this roster has...disgusting

(03-06-2015 08:46 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 08:43 PM)adunifon Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 08:37 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  This team is going to be hard pressed to even receive a "CBI" tourney postseason invite.

Don't deserve it. What they deserve is a Monday night home game.

Which with the way they have been playing, and the way they have played at home, they will likely lose.

Quicker its over with the better at this point

Ah 1980. Was a young sprout that grew to love the Rockets. Not over it yet

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1980. That is just freaking embarrassing. Some schools win their conference and/or get to the big dance every 4 or 5 years. And we talk about leaving the MAC? Please.

During Stan's tenure, Toledo 3 or 4 NCAA trips would have happened with his regular season results if Toledo was in another conference at the time. 1st & 2nd place finishes gets you dancing, but not in the 1 bid MAC.

So let's stay in the MAC. Trust some day the stars will align. We'll listen to you complain until they do line up. Btw, INSANITY!!!!!!!!!

I am no Suzy Sunshine by a long shot and I admit the prognosis at the moment looks grim-----HOWEVER, I am not willing to bury the team so long as they have a pulse and are still breathing which is certainly the case at present. Getting a top four seeding punched their ticket as one of the four finalists for the grand prize----a trip to the NCAA---so they are still in the game at this point and will remain so at the very least until Thursday evening....and hopefully for a couple of days beyond that.

I don't remember 1984 as well as Nick does, but I can see why he remembers it well.

To me, for some reason it kind of brings back 2004-2006.

(03-06-2015 11:31 PM)Terry Wrote:  So let's stay in the MAC. Trust some day the stars will align. We'll listen to you complain until they do line up. Btw, INSANITY!!!!!!!!!

The problem is that at presence there are not any ("not any" as in "ZERO") viable options as I see it......and you can't just join any conference you want WITHOUT first getting an invitation. What are you going to do? Take football independent and try to get the rest of the teams into the Horizon or something like that?

(03-06-2015 11:49 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  I don't remember 1984 as well as Nick does, but I can see why he remembers it well.

To me, for some reason it kind of brings back 2004-2006.

.....and then there were the Stempin years. Stan have several teams that got off to super starts only to fizzles midway thru conference play.

Mental toughness is something that is hard to develop on a team if they don't have it innately. And this group does not appear to have it! One of the most disappointing seasons in YEARS. I was there in 1980's and this is not a team even close to those in toughness. Talent, YES for sure. Not one of TKs resume building seasons for sure. I go back to the preseason hype! TK was part of it and this team could not handle it. It will be interesting to see if the program can get over this season. Hope so but time will tell. This was a perfect season given the talent and seniors on the team and the schedule but something was wrong with this group and they certainly under-achieved. Very sad for all involved. Unless something happens on the bus ride to Cleveland it will be a very short visit. So disappointing for sure.

(03-07-2015 10:11 AM)rocket 51 Wrote:  Mental toughness is something that is hard to develop on a team if they don't have it innately. And this group does not appear to have it! One of the most disappointing seasons in YEARS. I was there in 1980's and this is not a team even close to those in toughness. Talent, YES for sure. Not one of TKs resume building seasons for sure. I go back to the preseason hype! TK was part of it and this team could not handle it. It will be interesting to see if the program can get over this season. Hope so but time will tell. This was a perfect season given the talent and seniors on the team and the schedule but something was wrong with this group and they certainly under-achieved. Very sad for all involved. Unless something happens on the bus ride to Cleveland it will be a very short visit. So disappointing for sure.

And this is why I think TK has to ensure the program is stable over the next 2 seasons, or he could be looking for another job. If we have back-to-back losing seasons in MAC play and quick outs in the MAC tournament, I can't imagine many people will be very happy. I'm not predicting that, mind you--but most of the MAC has more talent returning next season, and we will be turning in large part to a group of true freshmen, so it will be a challenge for them to host a first-round game next season. It just may be that TK's job was to get the program off life support, and eliminate the "bad character" complaints that had settled into the program--he's certainly done both of those. Mission accomplished. That may be the best he can do. The question now is can he recruit & lead a team to an NCAA bid, and how long will he be given to do so?

(03-06-2015 11:44 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I am no Suzy Sunshine by a long shot and I admit the prognosis at the moment looks grim-----HOWEVER, I am not willing to bury the team so long as they have a pulse and are still breathing which is certainly the case at present. Getting a top four seeding punched their ticket as one of the four finalists for the grand prize----a trip to the NCAA---so they are still in the game at this point and will remain so at the very least until Thursday evening....and hopefully for a couple of days beyond that.

I do agree that this the most disappointing season since 1984 WITHOUT A DOUBT.

I understand the negativity as well.

I also remember in 1979 the week before the NCAA tournament visiting my brother at Northwestern and complaining how a great Rocket team was missing the NCAA tournament again after winning 20 games when unbeknownst to me CMU had blown
a game and there would be a playoff game for the Mac NCAA tournament bid the next Monday win it and then beat Iowa the next Saturday.

So I also agree with the post above IT IS NOT OVER UNTIL IT IS OVER. I hope to see you all in Cleveland next Saturday and the NCAA tournament the following!!!

(03-06-2015 11:44 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I am no Suzy Sunshine by a long shot and I admit the prognosis at the moment looks grim-----HOWEVER, I am not willing to bury the team so long as they have a pulse and are still breathing which is certainly the case at present. Getting a top four seeding punched their ticket as one of the four finalists for the grand prize----a trip to the NCAA---so they are still in the game at this point and will remain so at the very least until Thursday evening....and hopefully for a couple of days beyond that.

Wouldn't than just be one of the top eight. They get to the quarters automatically - which is eight teams narrowed down to 4 for Friday night's semis - then 2 for the finals on Saturday. I guess the worst we can do now is tied for 5th in the tourney....

(03-08-2015 06:02 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 11:44 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I am no Suzy Sunshine by a long shot and I admit the prognosis at the moment looks grim-----HOWEVER, I am not willing to bury the team so long as they have a pulse and are still breathing which is certainly the case at present. Getting a top four seeding punched their ticket as one of the four finalists for the grand prize----a trip to the NCAA---so they are still in the game at this point and will remain so at the very least until Thursday evening....and hopefully for a couple of days beyond that.

Wouldn't than just be one of the top eight. They get to the quarters automatically - which is eight teams narrowed down to 4 for Friday night's semis - then 2 for the finals on Saturday. I guess the worst we can do now is tied for 5th in the tourney....

Of course Toledo could lose Thursday night and not finish in the "top four" of the tournament but losing on Thursday or on Friday or on Saturday makes absolutely no difference whatsoever because at this time of the year the ONLY thing that really matters is winning on Saturday night. I believe that any team playing their 5th game in 6 nights is going to have tired legs and I do NOT believe that any MAC team can win that 5th game on tired legs.

All I am saying is that UT is one of the 4 teams that does NOT have to win 5 games in 6 nights to win the Tournament. At this point in time a loss on Saturday night is just as devastating as a loss Thursday night (or Monday night for that matter) because there will be no points awarded for "moral victories" and "close but no cigar" is totally worthless in a winner-take-all tournament which is what the MAC is.