(03-03-2015 10:01 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  2, 7, and 9, I'll go A, B, A.

The rest are Cs.

Hoopdreams, have you been drinking??


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(03-03-2015 10:01 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  2, 7, and 9, I'll go A, B, A.

The rest are Cs.

Generous

1. Ability to motivate players- D
2. Recruiting – attracting top quality prospects, getting players enrolled and retaining recruits- B-
3. Game planning- C+
4. Play calling- D
5. Player execution of plays- C
6. In game adaptability- D
7. Selection of assistant coaches- B-
8. How does Josh conduct interviews?- F
9. Does Josh do a good job of selling the Memphis basketball program?- C
10. (Added by Chad) Player Development- C

(03-03-2015 06:51 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You lost me at Rainman.

Yep.

Local radio has been dead for years.

Really...this guy really still buys the airtime to promote his picks? And I am guessing by this thread he still trolls for angry listeners? Hmmm...tough year, many fans nastily down on the coach, let's get a poll out there to get them to call in and...be nasty!

Whoot.

Did you hire rainman to mow your lawn?

also, was he ever able to find a roommate for his daughter at UTk?

I listen to the Rainman for pet advice

(03-03-2015 10:36 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  I know a lot of people disagree, but I think you have to include graduation rates, GPA, and off the court behavior in any report card exercise for a collegiate head coach. It won't excuse low grades in the other categories, but it also can't be flat out ignored.

While short if Sweet sixteen for sure...you would hope the last four seasons of NCAA teams, advancing teams, thirty plus win teams, conference player of the year teams, sweepers of Louisville teams with a progression that ended up last year in five ranked wins and a NCAA tourney win...would not be ignored either...not indicating I do not want even more success.

A down year in the middle of NCAA tourney years, of which there is a real chance as early as next season could result in getting over the hump.

Lots being ignored here. Including that.

Next year's team goes 17-12 .... Time for change. This year with the rebuilding and the injuries. Hardly. I know that is incendiary anger producing commentary...just have to live with it.

(03-03-2015 07:38 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 07:18 PM)450bench Wrote:  F-

I agree if you are talking about the OP.

I wasn't.

Rainman?

1. Ability to motivate players_______F
2. Recruiting – attracting top quality prospects, getting players enrolled and retaining recruits____B-
3. Game planning_____D
4. Play calling______F
5. Player execution of plays____D
6. In game adaptability_____D
7. Selection of assistant coaches_____C-
8. How does Josh conduct interviews?____B
9. Does Josh do a good job of selling the Memphis basketball program?____A+
10. (Added by Chad) Player Development______D

(03-03-2015 06:55 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 06:23 PM)chadgatlin Wrote:  Yesterday on Rainman's show over on Sports 56 he and Whitey Mills went over an evaluation or "report card" criteria for Josh Pastner as a coach. They just put the categories out there for anyone to take into consideration for themselves and give a letter grade. I thought this was such a great way to really evaluate - emotion free - Coach Pastner's performance that I asked if I could use it myself.

Whitey has not only agreed, but will be on the show to explain the origins of the "report card". I have put it below, so that you guys can give feedback as to your grades for the coach. You can also call the show tonight with your conclusions at (901) 475-9355.

The show will be live beginning at 8pm on wkbl1250.com/listen-live . I look forward to hearing from you guys!

For each of the nine categories, assign Josh a grade of “A” through “F”, with “A” being the highest possible. You can give + or – grades such as a C-.

1. Ability to motivate players
2. Recruiting – attracting top quality prospects, getting players enrolled and retaining recruits
3. Game planning
4. Play calling
5. Player execution of plays
6. In game adaptability
7. Selection of assistant coaches
8. How does Josh conduct interviews?
9. Does Josh do a good job of selling the Memphis basketball program?
10. (Added by Chad) Player Development

Seems the questions are skewed to be answered negatively

^^^^^^^^

Silly survey. As far as running the program, I have no issues with JP. I don't care if recruits decided to leave. None that have made that decision have proven themselves at other schools. My issue with JP is his record against quality competition, which include the NCAA's, how unorganized our team can play at times , lack of fundamentals and lack of strategy to take advantage of our strengths.

(03-03-2015 08:59 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:48 PM)tigergg Wrote:  1. Ability to motivate players- F
2.Recruiting- C - but 90% of the players he has gotten were coming here regardless of the Coach IMO..
3. Game Planning- D
4. Play Calling- F
5. Player execution of plays- F
6. In game adaptability- F
7. Selection of assistant coaches- don't know enough about them so - C
8. Interviews- F a big fat one
9. Selling the program- C
10. Player Development- F


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I concur wholeheartedly with this TigerGG!!!.... but in my opinion, these are categories that are already exploited in many posts where we are labeled as p_ssing on Josh!!! These are just the facts but I will assure you that certain posters will dare to entertain this post because these are the criteria that Josh and ONLY josh can be graded upon.....This elimin8s the many scapegoats and variables that the "JP shampoo" users dare to address

FYI, these are not "facts". They are opinion. It's comical to imply JP has been a total failure. No one in their right mind would say JP has not done 'average/slightly below average' with his performance. But 'average' is not good enough for a program with Memphis's history, resources and expectations. We need a coach who can teach, manage a game, motivate and do all the things JP is good at.

(03-04-2015 09:39 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 06:55 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 06:23 PM)chadgatlin Wrote:  Yesterday on Rainman's show over on Sports 56 he and Whitey Mills went over an evaluation or "report card" criteria for Josh Pastner as a coach. They just put the categories out there for anyone to take into consideration for themselves and give a letter grade. I thought this was such a great way to really evaluate - emotion free - Coach Pastner's performance that I asked if I could use it myself.

Whitey has not only agreed, but will be on the show to explain the origins of the "report card". I have put it below, so that you guys can give feedback as to your grades for the coach. You can also call the show tonight with your conclusions at (901) 475-9355.

The show will be live beginning at 8pm on wkbl1250.com/listen-live . I look forward to hearing from you guys!

For each of the nine categories, assign Josh a grade of “A” through “F”, with “A” being the highest possible. You can give + or – grades such as a C-.

1. Ability to motivate players
2. Recruiting – attracting top quality prospects, getting players enrolled and retaining recruits
3. Game planning
4. Play calling
5. Player execution of plays
6. In game adaptability
7. Selection of assistant coaches
8. How does Josh conduct interviews?
9. Does Josh do a good job of selling the Memphis basketball program?
10. (Added by Chad) Player Development

Seems the questions are skewed to be answered negatively

^^^^^^^^

Silly survey. As far as running the program, I have no issues with JP. I don't care if recruits decided to leave. None that have made that decision have proven themselves at other schools. My issue with JP is his record against quality competition, which include the NCAA's and how unorganized our team can play at times.

There have been 2 recruits recently he has missed out on that could have helped this year- Chioza at Florida and especially Cameron Payne at Murray St. (That guy can play) But the rest of what you said I concur..


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(03-04-2015 09:41 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:59 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:48 PM)tigergg Wrote:  1. Ability to motivate players- F
2.Recruiting- C - but 90% of the players he has gotten were coming here regardless of the Coach IMO..
3. Game Planning- D
4. Play Calling- F
5. Player execution of plays- F
6. In game adaptability- F
7. Selection of assistant coaches- don't know enough about them so - C
8. Interviews- F a big fat one
9. Selling the program- C
10. Player Development- F


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I concur wholeheartedly with this TigerGG!!!.... but in my opinion, these are categories that are already exploited in many posts where we are labeled as p_ssing on Josh!!! These are just the facts but I will assure you that certain posters will dare to entertain this post because these are the criteria that Josh and ONLY josh can be graded upon.....This elimin8s the many scapegoats and variables that the "JP shampoo" users dare to address

FYI, these are not "facts". They are opinion. It's comical to imply JP has been a total failure. No one in their right mind would say JP has not done 'average/slightly below average' with his performance. But 'average' is not good enough for a program with Memphis's history, resources and expectations. We need a coach who can teach, manage a game, motivate and do all the things JP is good at.

I think JP would be a great college General Manager if one existed...

He gets the players, gets and keeps them qualified and someone else does the BASKETBALL stuff.

"Have you seen Juniors grade?" - David Lee Roth

(03-03-2015 06:23 PM)chadgatlin Wrote:  Yesterday on Rainman's show over on Sports 56 he and Whitey Mills went over an evaluation or "report card" criteria for Josh Pastner as a coach. They just put the categories out there for anyone to take into consideration for themselves and give a letter grade. I thought this was such a great way to really evaluate - emotion free - Coach Pastner's performance that I asked if I could use it myself.

Whitey has not only agreed, but will be on the show to explain the origins of the "report card". I have put it below, so that you guys can give feedback as to your grades for the coach. You can also call the show tonight with your conclusions at (901) 475-9355.

The show will be live beginning at 8pm on wkbl1250.com/listen-live . I look forward to hearing from you guys!

For each of the nine categories, assign Josh a grade of “A” through “F”, with “A” being the highest possible. You can give + or – grades such as a C-.

1. Ability to motivate players C
2. Recruiting – attracting top quality prospects, getting players enrolled and retaining recruits A-
3. Game planning B-
4. Play calling D
5. Player execution of plays D+ (I don't see how he can control player execution, but whatever)
6. In game adaptability D
7. Selection of assistant coaches C+ (For every Luke Walton, there has been a Damon Stoudamire or Glenn Cyprien)
8. How does Josh conduct interviews? C- (constantly uses catch phrases, but is always upbeat)
9. Does Josh do a good job of selling the Memphis basketball program? A
10. (Added by Chad) Player Development C-

1 A
1 A-
1 B-
1 C+
1 C
2 C-
1 D+
2 D-

Not great, but then again, not the debacle that others have predicted either. I swear if the guy could get a Stan Jones type guy as an assistant, he'd look like the next (insert successful coach here).

(03-03-2015 11:45 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 06:51 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  You lost me at Rainman.

Yep.

Local radio has been dead for years.

Really...this guy really still buys the airtime to promote his picks? And I am guessing by this thread he still trolls for angry listeners? Hmmm...tough year, many fans nastily down on the coach, let's get a poll out there to get them to call in and...be nasty!

Whoot.

Agreed.

1. Ability to motivate players - C

2. Recruiting – attracting top quality prospects, getting players enrolled and retaining recruits - A

3. Game planning - C

4. Play calling - C - hard to say on this one. A lot is up to the players to execute

5. Player execution of plays - C

6. In game adaptability - D-

7. Selection of assistant coaches - F

8. How does Josh conduct interviews? - F- if attitude was all the mattered he would be a solid B+, but because of his over abundance of meaningless platitudes and lack of substance he gets an F.

9. Does Josh do a good job of selling the Memphis basketball program? A - great ambassador

10. (Added by Chad) Player Development - C- Austin, DJ are players that could argue for pastner, but the list is longer for guys who didn't reach potential according to ratings. He's either not good at player development or very unlucky

(03-03-2015 10:36 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  I know a lot of people disagree, but I think you have to include graduation rates, GPA, and off the court behavior in any report card exercise for a collegiate head coach. It won't excuse low grades in the other categories, but it also can't be flat out ignored.

It matters.

1. Ability to motivate players- D
2.Recruiting- B
3. Game Planning- C
4. Play Calling- D
5. Player execution of plays- F
6. In game adaptability- D
7. Selection of assistant coaches C+ ( He has had some great coaches here, and some were wierd hires for sure.)
8. Interviews- D
9. Selling the program- C
10. Player Development- F

11. NCAA Resume- D+
12. Overall wins- A (I don't care who they were against.)
13. Work Ethic- A++++
14. Player Graduation Rates: A++++