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Criminal investigation into how Lois Lerner's emails disappeared
Ok all you IRS deniers out there, are you finally will to admit something is criminally wrong at the IRS or is this still a witch hunt?


Quote:The IRS’s inspector general confirmed Thursday it is conducting a criminal investigation into how Lois G. Lerner’s emails disappeared, saying it took only two weeks for investigators to find hundreds of tapes the agency’s chief had told Congress were irretrievably destroyed.

Investigators have already scoured 744 backup tapes and gleaned 32,774 unique emails, but just two weeks ago they found an additional 424 tapes that could contain even more Lerner emails, Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus told the House Oversight Committee in a rare late-night hearing meant to look into the status of the investigation.

“There is potential criminal activity,” Mr. Camus said.

Quote:The IRS belatedly told Congress it may have lost some of Ms. Lerner’s emails after her computer crashed, and asserted that the backup tapes didn’t exist.

But under questioning from Mr. Chaffetz, Mr. Camus said it took him only two weeks to track down the backup tapes, and when he asked the IRS depository for them, the workers there said they’d never been contacted by the agency itself.

Republicans said that was stunning because IRS Commissioner John Koskinen repeatedly assured Congress the emails were irretrievably lost.

“I think they have misled or lied to the committee,” said Rep. John L. Mica, Florida Republican.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015...emails-no/
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Gonna' Have some 'Splainin' to do !
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Damn....from the thread title...I thought Lois Lerner was missing and this thread was going to be about Obama silencing her or something...lol

Good to know it's still about nothing.

Carry on...
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There is no doubt the Obama administration has lied their collective a$$es of about this from day one. The only question will be if anyone will eventually break ranks that will lead into the white house. Honestly, I really question if Obama knew directly, but have an idea he likely knew of some IRS stuff going on. He probably has plausible deniability and if the truth ever comes to light will invoke it, but I'd be willing to bet that someone in the white house knew what was going on.......... which is pretty close to the man holding the office.
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(02-27-2015 12:56 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Ok all you IRS deniers out there, are you finally will to admit something is criminally wrong at the IRS or is this still a witch hunt?


Quote:The IRS’s inspector general confirmed Thursday it is conducting a criminal investigation into how Lois G. Lerner’s emails disappeared, saying it took only two weeks for investigators to find hundreds of tapes the agency’s chief had told Congress were irretrievably destroyed.

Investigators have already scoured 744 backup tapes and gleaned 32,774 unique emails, but just two weeks ago they found an additional 424 tapes that could contain even more Lerner emails, Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus told the House Oversight Committee in a rare late-night hearing meant to look into the status of the investigation.

“There is potential criminal activity,” Mr. Camus said.

Quote:The IRS belatedly told Congress it may have lost some of Ms. Lerner’s emails after her computer crashed, and asserted that the backup tapes didn’t exist.

But under questioning from Mr. Chaffetz, Mr. Camus said it took him only two weeks to track down the backup tapes, and when he asked the IRS depository for them, the workers there said they’d never been contacted by the agency itself.

Republicans said that was stunning because IRS Commissioner John Koskinen repeatedly assured Congress the emails were irretrievably lost.

“I think they have misled or lied to the committee,” said Rep. John L. Mica, Florida Republican.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015...emails-no/

I very much look forward to seeing some of theses Lerner emails.
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(02-27-2015 01:43 PM)Crebman Wrote:  There is no doubt the Obama administration has lied their collective a$$es of about this from day one. The only question will be if anyone will eventually break ranks that will lead into the white house. Honestly, I really question if Obama knew directly, but have an idea he likely knew of some IRS stuff going on. He probably has plausible deniability and if the truth ever comes to light will invoke it, but I'd be willing to bet that someone in the white house knew what was going on.......... which is pretty close to the man holding the office.

So...exactly what was going on again? That's what's been so stupid in this whole thing from the get-go! The IRS was just being the IRS.
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(02-27-2015 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Damn....from the thread title...I thought Lois Lerner was missing and this thread was going to be about Obama silencing her or something...lol

Good to know it's still about nothing.

Carry on...

You know Lois Lerner will strike a deal and testify, right? You know this will go right to the Obama Administration, right? The only hope you got is that one of Obama's stooges falls on the sword for him.

It's a shame you don't work for Obama, you are the kind of "true believer" Obama is going to need to dodge this bullet.

This is the beginning of the end for your dear leader and the American socialist experiment of the last 6 years. This country is beginning to recover from it's fever. Obamacare will be rolled back. Holder is running away fro this stinking dog pile of an administration just in time. Republicans control congress.

It's over. over but the crying... 04-cheers

American socialism (i.e. progressive movement) is dead.
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(02-27-2015 02:05 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Damn....from the thread title...I thought Lois Lerner was missing and this thread was going to be about Obama silencing her or something...lol

Good to know it's still about nothing.

Carry on...

You know Lois Lerner will strike a deal and testify, right? You know this will go right to the Obama Administration, right? The only hope you got is that one of Obama's stooges falls on the sword for him.

It's a shame you don't work for Obama, you are the kind of "true believer" Obama is going to need to dodge this bullet.

This is the beginning of the end for your dear leader and the American socialist experiment of the last 6 years. This country is beginning to recover from it's fever. Obamacare will be rolled back. Holder is running away fro this stinking dog pile of an administration just in time. Republicans control congress.

It's over. over but the crying... 04-cheers

American socialism (i.e. progressive movement) is dead.

You see Bull...I just wait for evidence. I try not to jump to conclusions. You'd be wise to do the same.

If it turns out Obama was involved then I'll be right in line demanding impeachment.

But don't get your hopes up...he wasn't. There was nothing to gain from this. Period.
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Also, you don't have a damned clue what Socialism is.
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(02-27-2015 02:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Also, you don't have a damned clue what Socialism is.

...and you do? Please enlighten me, oh wannabe mod!!
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Not a smidgen??? This administration is as crooked as it gets. Hopefully one day those responsible will be behind bars.
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Pretty obvious the IRS was lying the entire time. However, it's DC, so everyone already knew that.
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(02-27-2015 02:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:05 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Damn....from the thread title...I thought Lois Lerner was missing and this thread was going to be about Obama silencing her or something...lol

Good to know it's still about nothing.

Carry on...

You know Lois Lerner will strike a deal and testify, right? You know this will go right to the Obama Administration, right? The only hope you got is that one of Obama's stooges falls on the sword for him.

It's a shame you don't work for Obama, you are the kind of "true believer" Obama is going to need to dodge this bullet.

This is the beginning of the end for your dear leader and the American socialist experiment of the last 6 years. This country is beginning to recover from it's fever. Obamacare will be rolled back. Holder is running away fro this stinking dog pile of an administration just in time. Republicans control congress.

It's over. over but the crying... 04-cheers

American socialism (i.e. progressive movement) is dead.

You see Bull...I just wait for evidence. I try not to jump to conclusions. You'd be wise to do the same.

If it turns out Obama was involved then I'll be right in line demanding impeachment.

But don't get your hopes up...he wasn't. There was nothing to gain from this. Period.

So, you still see no evidence of a cover-up? At least to the level of that proven liar, weasel Koskinen? How about the complicity of the dim House members on the committee trying to run interference this entire time?

You don't think a re-election would be a worthy enough objective to have some of these people do exactly what they clearly did? Keep themselves and their "side" in the power brokers seat? We already know Lerner is/was a political hatchet man, but you think it's a reach that they would have seen an advantage to do exactly what they did? Especially after the tacit approval/encouragement from the very top?

C'mon.
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(02-27-2015 02:14 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Not a smidgen??? This administration is as crooked as it gets. Hopefully one day those responsible will be behind bars.

Correct...not a smidgen. Been what, over two years now...and still nothing? Not even a smidgen? 03-wink
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(02-27-2015 02:19 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:05 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Damn....from the thread title...I thought Lois Lerner was missing and this thread was going to be about Obama silencing her or something...lol

Good to know it's still about nothing.

Carry on...

You know Lois Lerner will strike a deal and testify, right? You know this will go right to the Obama Administration, right? The only hope you got is that one of Obama's stooges falls on the sword for him.

It's a shame you don't work for Obama, you are the kind of "true believer" Obama is going to need to dodge this bullet.

This is the beginning of the end for your dear leader and the American socialist experiment of the last 6 years. This country is beginning to recover from it's fever. Obamacare will be rolled back. Holder is running away fro this stinking dog pile of an administration just in time. Republicans control congress.

It's over. over but the crying... 04-cheers

American socialism (i.e. progressive movement) is dead.

You see Bull...I just wait for evidence. I try not to jump to conclusions. You'd be wise to do the same.

If it turns out Obama was involved then I'll be right in line demanding impeachment.

But don't get your hopes up...he wasn't. There was nothing to gain from this. Period.

So, you still see no evidence of a cover-up? At least to the level of that proven liar, weasel Koskinen? How about the complicity of the dim House members on the committee trying to run interference this entire time?

You don't think a re-election would be a worthy enough objective to have some of these people do exactly what they clearly did? Keep themselves and their "side" in the power brokers seat? We already know Lerner is/was a political hatchet man, but you think it's a reach that they would have seen an advantage to do exactly what they did? Especially after the tacit approval/encouragement from the very top?

C'mon.

At the IRS? Of course they're covering their asses. That's what they do. I'm talking about any White House involvement.

And no, Obama was never in enough jeopardy of losing to warrant a stunt like this. These myriad groups would have done next to nothing to Obama's voters to sway the election. Next to nothing!
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(02-27-2015 02:12 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Also, you don't have a damned clue what Socialism is.

...and you do? Please enlighten me, oh wannabe mod!!

My daughter constantly tells me I'm mod.
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(02-27-2015 02:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:14 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Not a smidgen??? This administration is as crooked as it gets. Hopefully one day those responsible will be behind bars.

Correct...not a smidgen. Been what, over two years now...and still nothing? Not even a smidgen? 03-wink

Two years of cover up and stonewalling. Took time to expose the coverup in Watergate also. A lapdog Obamabot will defend this illegal activity at all costs. Damn the Constitution.
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(02-27-2015 01:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Damn....from the thread title...I thought Lois Lerner was missing and this thread was going to be about Obama silencing her or something...lol

Good to know it's still about nothing.

Carry on...

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I'm at the point in this where I think the Republicans should just say "OK. If that's how you want to do business then from here on out that's how it will be."

Then the next time the dims want to investigate anything under a GOP administration they follow the IRS playbook to the letter. Use their tactics against them and see how they like it.

How long into that process do you think we would be before Redtom was howling like a chimpanzee? I get the feeling it wouldn't be long.
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(02-27-2015 02:26 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-27-2015 02:14 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Not a smidgen??? This administration is as crooked as it gets. Hopefully one day those responsible will be behind bars.

Correct...not a smidgen. Been what, over two years now...and still nothing? Not even a smidgen? 03-wink

Two years of cover up and stonewalling. Took time to expose the coverup in Watergate also. A lapdog Obamabot will defend this illegal activity at all costs. Damn the Constitution.

What illegal activity?
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