(02-20-2015 11:34 AM)mistabinks Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 09:38 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Last I checked tickets are still being sold. UTEP and Tulsa sold only 2,500 each when they both last hosted and this is private sales (Season ticket holders) to date. Corporate tickets have not been figured at this point which is what a majority of the all-session seats will be as the case with all of these tournaments.

I am not going to dump on UAB. I am a big fan. That being said, your AD is incorrect about all sessions passes sold in El Paso. We set a CUSA record. I am not sure what Tulsa did but we sold 4500 all session passes.

(02-20-2015 09:38 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  No it should NOT be in ElPaso every year. It should be rotated around. Get over yourself.

I am the biggest UTEP and El Paso homer that there is. Even I think it should only be here every 3rd year.

The CUSA tourney is just not an event people will travel to. Not in the thousands at least. It needs to supported by the host city.

which is why those that are on the fringe would choose biloxi, nashvillle, b'ham based on distance alone.......who wants to go to el paso.....

the aforementioned offer value for the wives, gamblers, golfers, fishermen, poolside watchers, etc.....

the 'tix sold,attendance' aspect is beyond ____________

(02-20-2015 07:41 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 06:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 12:36 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  don't know if this is true, but the tournament has supposedly sold 500 all session tickets. So much for the centrally located teams crying out that they can support the tournmanet. It doesn't seem like a very good decision so far, but we will see. Honestly, the tournament should only be held in El Paso, or richmond/norfolk. If you don't want it in El Paso, hold it in San Antonio

I hope that guarantee was pretty damn good. If not, I think the rest of the schools should foot the bill.

How many were you expecting? That sounds about right for this bunch. That said, in El Paso it'd probably be more like 800 sold (mostly UTEP fans).

As mentioned above, UTEP holds the CUSA record for most all session passes sold. It was between 4500 and 5500 all session passes sold.

I respect you dude....but that means zero in relative terms marketing the conference....you guys are an outpost.....and that's a bummer.....

the importance of 'meaning' doesn't only involve the locals....

that's just chest dumplin's

(02-20-2015 07:28 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  A central location like, I don't know, Nashville would probably be a good draw.

MT and WKU combined would bring several thousand each, plus you've got UAB, Charlotte, ODU, Marshall, USM all sorta close.

Nashville and Birmingham are almost equally central. id be all for it, but I don't know that the outcome would be much better than what we are currently seeing.

Outposts still do well.

Do I think it should be in El Paso every year? No.... Every 3rd? yes..... Looks good on TV

But I still won't be critical of teams hosting. We should support it. Otherwise, we might as well be the AAC jk

(02-20-2015 07:49 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:28 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  A central location like, I don't know, Nashville would probably be a good draw.

MT and WKU combined would bring several thousand each, plus you've got UAB, Charlotte, ODU, Marshall, USM all sorta close.

Nashville and Birmingham are almost equally central. id be all for it, but I don't know that the outcome would be much better than what we are currently seeing.

Well, having two close schools would help a bit I would think. MT had around 4,000 of our fans a game back in the old SBC tournament days when we stunk and hosted it. WKU would bring a lot too.

(02-20-2015 07:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 11:34 AM)mistabinks Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 09:38 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Last I checked tickets are still being sold. UTEP and Tulsa sold only 2,500 each when they both last hosted and this is private sales (Season ticket holders) to date. Corporate tickets have not been figured at this point which is what a majority of the all-session seats will be as the case with all of these tournaments.

I am not going to dump on UAB. I am a big fan. That being said, your AD is incorrect about all sessions passes sold in El Paso. We set a CUSA record. I am not sure what Tulsa did but we sold 4500 all session passes.

(02-20-2015 09:38 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  No it should NOT be in ElPaso every year. It should be rotated around. Get over yourself.

I am the biggest UTEP and El Paso homer that there is. Even I think it should only be here every 3rd year.

The CUSA tourney is just not an event people will travel to. Not in the thousands at least. It needs to supported by the host city.

which is why those that are on the fringe would choose biloxi, nashvillle, b'ham based on distance alone.......who wants to go to el paso.....

the aforementioned offer value for the wives, gamblers, golfers, fishermen, poolside watchers, etc.....

the 'tix sold,attendance' aspect is beyond ____________

Thinking wives, gamblers, golfers, fishermen, poolside watchers, etc..... are going to plan a vacation around the CUSA basketball tournament is beyond ______________

It simply isn't going to happen.

BTW, you can gamble, golf, fish, in and around the El Paso area.

(02-20-2015 07:47 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 07:41 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 06:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 12:36 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  don't know if this is true, but the tournament has supposedly sold 500 all session tickets. So much for the centrally located teams crying out that they can support the tournmanet. It doesn't seem like a very good decision so far, but we will see. Honestly, the tournament should only be held in El Paso, or richmond/norfolk. If you don't want it in El Paso, hold it in San Antonio

I hope that guarantee was pretty damn good. If not, I think the rest of the schools should foot the bill.

How many were you expecting? That sounds about right for this bunch. That said, in El Paso it'd probably be more like 800 sold (mostly UTEP fans).

As mentioned above, UTEP holds the CUSA record for most all session passes sold. It was between 4500 and 5500 all session passes sold.

I respect you dude....but that means zero in relative terms marketing the conference....you guys are an outpost.....and that's a bummer.....

the importance of 'meaning' doesn't only involve the locals....

that's just chest dumplin's

So a well attended game means nothing in terms of marketing. Does an empty arena somehow add something?

CUSA will no doubt give a central location and then a destination location a chance. Then it will return the tourney to El Paso where it has been successful.

We are talking about an event that tens of people will travel to from most schools. Unless a school is red hot, and within 400 miles of the tourney, you aren't getting hundreds of fans to travel. I'd rather have six thousand locals attend the tournament than 1200 assorted fans in a central location. It's not chest thumping when it's actually the way it is.

(02-20-2015 07:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 06:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 12:36 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  don't know if this is true, but the tournament has supposedly sold 500 all session tickets. So much for the centrally located teams crying out that they can support the tournmanet. It doesn't seem like a very good decision so far, but we will see. Honestly, the tournament should only be held in El Paso, or richmond/norfolk. If you don't want it in El Paso, hold it in San Antonio

I hope that guarantee was pretty damn good. If not, I think the rest of the schools should foot the bill.

How many were you expecting? That sounds about right for this bunch. That said, in El Paso it'd probably be more like 800 sold (mostly UTEP fans).

you understand what I do....can't fix what is irrelevant.....

Research, research, research. Multiply that 800 number by 6.5... Only one other school in conference averages more fans through out the season than ALL SESSION TICKETS SOLD for the cusa tournament in El Paso.

What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

(02-21-2015 12:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

3 years ago UTEP went 15-17 and averaged 7341 at home

(02-21-2015 12:25 AM)picks up Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

3 years ago UTEP went 15-17 and averaged 7341 at home

I'm sure a lot of people bought season tickets before they knew you were going to to be bad. The question is would they buy tournament tickets knowing you were a 15 win team.

(02-21-2015 12:32 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:25 AM)picks up Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

3 years ago UTEP went 15-17 and averaged 7341 at home

I'm sure a lot of people bought season tickets before they knew you were going to to be bad. The question is would they buy tournament tickets knowing you were a 15 win team.

Actually we all knew they were going to be bad. The year before UTEP had 6 or 7 seniors. Everyone in the city knew that UTEP was rebuilding.

Bring it to Norfolk! ODU fans love basketball!

Why wouldn't Charlotte be a good location? It's basketball country near tobacco road, it's a basketball school with a good arena, and it's a large city/media market that should draw pretty good crowds.

As much as I enjoy CUSA... UTEP needs to be in the MWC, better over all perception, and better locations for the Miners... CUSA is too spread out and you have so many complainers... Fact is, nobody in CUSA is going to have the support UTEP does in hosting, I don't even think ODU will... Yet people complain about it, we all know UAB wasn't going to really have good numbers... UAB has not had good numbers for a while, even before their FB program got shut down. If it's in San Antonio, there will be a good UTEP crowd, but doesn't UTSA average under 1k fans? Who else would show? There is no longer a Memphis like program that will travel well.

I think Charlotte and ODU would do well hosting this event. No to Texas-San Antonio's HS gym.

(02-21-2015 12:25 AM)picks up Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

3 years ago UTEP went 15-17 and averaged 7341 at home

Yeah, but you didn't go 3-9 OOC and lose at home in exhibition to a d2 team, or have your football program cancelled the same year. You also weren't coming off of 3 prior seasons with no postseason play with 2 of those 3 previous seasons being losing seasons.

We did.

Don't get me wrong, UTEP has awesome attendance pretty much always, but those 2 seasons don't compare. It's still really not an excuse for the lack of UAB fans this year.

(02-21-2015 01:50 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:25 AM)picks up Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

3 years ago UTEP went 15-17 and averaged 7341 at home

Yeah, but you didn't go 3-9 OOC and lose at home in exhibition to a d2 team, or have your football program cancelled the same year. You also weren't coming off of 3 prior seasons with no postseason play with 2 of those 3 previous seasons being losing seasons.

We did.

Don't get me wrong, UTEP has awesome attendance pretty much always, but those 2 seasons don't compare. It's still really not an excuse for the lack of UAB fans this year.

I'm not trying to pile on. I was asked how El Paso would support a losing team and I answered

(02-21-2015 12:32 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:25 AM)picks up Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 12:09 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  What would El Paso attendance be like if UTEP had a bad season? I'm going to Birmingham. El Paso would be out of my range. I'd probably go anywhere in between San Antonio and Birmingham.

3 years ago UTEP went 15-17 and averaged 7341 at home

I'm sure a lot of people bought season tickets before they knew you were going to to be bad. The question is would they buy tournament tickets knowing you were a 15 win team.

If we went ZERO and 100 we'd sell more than what these "centrally located schools" could get in a tournament. heh, look at our football team, we suck and we still lead the league in attendance

the decision to have the tournament centrally located was just a dumb, dumb decision. If the guarantee wasn't the "highest of the guarantee," I think the schools who voted to have the tournament away from the highest guarantee should put up the bill for the difference in the two total bids.