I just want to be in a conference with Cincinnati for ever and ever and ever.....

The P5 Conferences break away and form their own division. The American becomes the top conference of the the second division. The End.


I don't see any expansion happening anytime soon. 2016 when the Big 10 gets their new first tier contract will tell us alot. Some speculate they will take Kansas but it isnt happening. There simply isnt enough in their market to be a huge money maker for the Big 10. Then some say Uconn, but they forget that the Big 10 has NEVER added a team that wasnt AAU at time of inclusion... which they arent. The ACC wont take them until Notre Dame joins full time.

The Big 12 may expand, but I dont think it will be for a while. In 10 years, I have a feeling the only major change will be a new division for football. Maybe the AAC is invited to that breakaway, but I have my doubts.

(02-14-2015 09:00 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The P5 Conferences break away and form their own division. The American becomes the top conference of the the second division. The End.


I don't see any expansion happening anytime soon. 2016 when the Big 10 gets their new first tier contract will tell us alot. Some speculate they will take Kansas but it isnt happening. There simply isnt enough in their market to be a huge money maker for the Big 10. Then some say Uconn, but they forget that the Big 10 has NEVER added a team that wasnt AAU at time of inclusion... which they arent. The ACC wont take them until Notre Dame joins full time.

The Big 12 may expand, but I dont think it will be for a while. In 10 years, I have a feeling the only major change will be a new division for football. Maybe the AAC is invited to that breakaway, but I have my doubts.

I see this ^ as being the most likely scenario. Also. UCONN will never get in the BIG until and if they become AAU. Never say never, but in this case....say never.

I dont really care about what conference we are in as long as its the same conference that SMU and Houston are in. If it ends up being some Big 16 watered down conference...great...its some AAC/MWC combination...great. If nothing changes...great.

At some point UCONN will leave. I just hope Rice is Aresco's first call as a replacement.

Keep it southern and keep it private.

AAC West
Navy
Tulsa
Rice
SMU
Houston
Tulane

AAC East
UC
Temple
ECU
UCF
USF
Memphis

(02-14-2015 10:13 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  I dont really care about what conference we are in as long as its the same conference that SMU and Houston are in. If it ends up being some Big 16 watered down conference...great...its some AAC/MWC combination...great. If nothing changes...great.

At some point UCONN will leave. I just hope Rice is Aresco's first call as a replacement.

Keep it southern and keep it private.

AAC West
Navy
Tulsa
Rice
SMU
Houston
Tulane

AAC East
UC
Temple
ECU
UCF
USF
Memphis

Unless there's a complete meltdown in college athletics, UConn isn't going anywhere.

We're not Southern or private, but we are a "public ivy". Maybe that counts for something.

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

13-0

Playing cusa in the kitty litter bowl

In 10 years:

Cincinnati-Big 12
Memphis-Big 12
Houston-American or Big 12
SMU-American or Big 12
Tulsa-American
Tulane-American
UCF-Big 12 or SEC or ACC
UConn-American or ACC
ECU-SEC or Big 12 or ACC
Navy-American
Temple-American
South Florida-SEC or Big 12 or ACC

Never heard of a back fill school called "Louisiana."

Four or five teams viable and competitive in football annually. This would include New Years day bowls.

Three teams to represent the conference in March madness, and at least one making the round of sweet sixteen.

Academics ratings rising for each institution.

Attendance increase for all.

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

After reading some of the dreams of fans on here, I'll make a dream post. Army stays Indy and (football) gets an NBC contract like Notre Dames paying 25 mil a year. Army is considered part of the Big 10 as far as bowl arrangements with all Olympic sports in the big. Army basketball is a tourney team every other year. Top 10 wrestling, hockey and baseball squads. ECU is in the SEC....what I just wrote is still more realistic than some of the predictions in this thread.

(02-13-2015 04:09 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  East
Temple
Cincinnati
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida
Memphis
Navy
West Virginia

West
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
Southern Methodist
Houston
Tulane
Tulsa
Texas Christian

I'm sure those who would be relegated from their current position would disagree, but that actually looks really good to me.

(02-14-2015 01:10 PM)Curumim Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

13-0

No, I don't think Navy will be going 13-0 next year.

(02-14-2015 06:19 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

After reading some of the dreams of fans on here, I'll make a dream post. Army stays Indy and (football) gets an NBC contract like Notre Dames paying 25 mil a year. Army is considered part of the Big 10 as far as bowl arrangements with all Olympic sports in the big. Army basketball is a tourney team every other year. Top 10 wrestling, hockey and baseball squads. ECU is in the SEC....what I just wrote is still more realistic than some of the predictions in this thread.

Love it, brother!

Men are allowed to dream.

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

I see the 3 military academies being regulars in the Access Bowl....

.....on my assumption that 98 to 100% of G5 do NOT get called up to P5.

.....P5 does NOT break away.

.....in order to keep athletic departments financially solvent, G5 all drops to fcs. They do this to lessen the amount of (now pricier) scholarships. Yet all fcs will play an 8 to 16 team tournament to determine who gets into Access Bowl.....10 champs from the 10 strongest conferences for a given season + 6 at-larges per the Playoff Committee.

.....the playoff money the G5 is allotted currently will go to this 16-team Access Bowl Play-in.....split equally between rounds, and each rounds' cut split equally between the 16, 8, 4 and 2 teams (their conferences) in each round....Access Bowl revenue itself will remain as is currently ($6million total to team and their conference who plays in Access Bowl).

.....the remaining top fcs teams for that season will fill spots for whatever minor bowls are still alive....as 15 of the 16 fcs Access Bowl Play-in Tournament drop out, they will mostly fill the leftover minor bowls.

.....with the remaining .500+ fcs teams and conference champions playing the traditional fcs "tournament" (no longer a "championship", more like an NIT for D1 football as a reward for the players of teams who played well per given season....this will be a 24 to 32 team tournament with a little money per team per game from the NCAA to pay for travel.

.....all non-P5 D1 schools agree to go through a massive conference realignment to reconfigure more geographically as well as form into stronger basketball conferences. NCAA Basketball Tournament credits follow the teams.....this will also lessen travel expenses for all non-P5.

.....The strongest (newly configured) non-P5 conferences in football and basketball will get similar tv contracts as G5 gets currently.

Not sure how non-P5 eastern, southern and Texas/southwest conferences would shake out in this massive non-P5 realignment/reconfiguration, but I'm sure the SWC would resurrect.

I see Fresno State and other Cali/Nevada teams heading for the BigWest with (*) denoting football members.

*Hawaii
*San Jose St
*UC Davis
*Sacramento St
*Nevada
*UNLV
*Fresno St
*Cal Poly
*San Diego St
CS-Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS-Northridge
Long Beach St
UC Riverside
UC Irvine
CS-Fullerton

That's 16 for a strong basketball, baseball and fcs football conference....but I can also see BYU convincing WCC to grab UNLV, SanDiego St, Boise, Wyo, Colo St, AirForce and New Mexico, with USD leaving Pioneer League football and joining as 9th WCC football member.....leaving Fresno State in a decent 7-team fcs conference + 7 non-football members.

This is not what I hope for, but it is a "worst case" scenario I could be somewhat happy about and get used to real quicklike.

....and this scenario makes the 3 military academies almost regulars into the a Access Bowl Play-in Tournament almost every post season.

(02-15-2015 11:40 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

I see the 3 military academies being regulars in the Access Bowl....

.....on my assumption that 98 to 100% of G5 do NOT get called up to P5.

.....P5 does NOT break away.

.....in order to keep athletic departments financially solvent, G5 all drops to fcs. They do this to lessen the amount of (now pricier) scholarships. Yet all fcs will play an 8 to 16 team tournament to determine who gets into Access Bowl.....10 champs from the 10 strongest conferences for a given season + 6 at-larges per the Playoff Committee.

.....the playoff money the G5 is allotted currently will go to this 16-team Access Bowl Play-in.....split equally between rounds, and each rounds' cut split equally between the 16, 8, 4 and 2 teams (their conferences) in each round....Access Bowl revenue itself will remain as is currently ($6million total to team and their conference who plays in Access Bowl).

.....the remaining top fcs teams for that season will fill spots for whatever minor bowls are still alive....as 15 of the 16 fcs Access Bowl Play-in Tournament drop out, they will mostly fill the leftover minor bowls.

.....with the remaining .500+ fcs teams and conference champions playing the traditional fcs "tournament" (no longer a "championship", more like an NIT for D1 football as a reward for the players of teams who played well per given season....this will be a 24 to 32 team tournament with a little money per team per game from the NCAA to pay for travel.

.....all non-P5 D1 schools agree to go through a massive conference realignment to reconfigure more geographically as well as form into stronger basketball conferences. NCAA Basketball Tournament credits follow the teams.....this will also lessen travel expenses for all non-P5.

.....The strongest (newly configured) non-P5 conferences in football and basketball will get similar tv contracts as G5 gets currently.

Not sure how non-P5 eastern, southern and Texas/southwest conferences would shake out in this massive non-P5 realignment/reconfiguration, but I'm sure the SWC would resurrect.

I see Fresno State and other Cali/Nevada teams heading for the BigWest with (*) denoting football members.

*Hawaii
*San Jose St
*UC Davis
*Sacramento St
*Nevada
*UNLV
*Fresno St
*Cal Poly
*San Diego St
CS-Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS-Northridge
Long Beach St
UC Riverside
UC Irvine
CS-Fullerton

That's 16 for a strong basketball, baseball and fcs football conference....but I can also see BYU convincing WCC to grab UNLV, SanDiego St, Boise, Wyo, Colo St, AirForce and New Mexico, with USD leaving Pioneer League football and joining as 9th WCC football member.....leaving Fresno State in a decent 7-team fcs conference + 7 non-football members.

This is not what I hope for, but it is a "worst case" scenario I could be somewhat happy about and get used to real quicklike.

....and this scenario makes the 3 military academies almost regulars into the a Access Bowl Play-in Tournament almost every post season.

sounds like Hawaii is really struggling financially. They need to be in all pacific time zone conference for football like what they have going for Olympic sports in the Big West. Your idea would be great for them. Its odd, Hawaii seemed to thrive in the old WAC (pre-Karl Benson and his adding of 100 schools to the league) I remember Hawaii beating Iowa in the Hayden Fry, Chuck long era and it wasn't that huge of a deal. I wonder why the WAC pre 1996 had so many schools like Hawaii doing well, and they are now half the programs they used to be. Besides Hawaii, other good WAC football programs like Wyoming, Air Force and San Diego St aren't nearly as successful, and respected like they were in the old WAC days...seems like they never recovered from that 16 school idea/disaster in the late 90's

PREDICTION: SMU season ticketholders will be paying per game NFL and NBA ticket prices to pay for their high profile coaching staffs

We are all going to be asked to pay a lot more to sustain our programs in a P5 environment but especially the small privates

(02-15-2015 12:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 11:40 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 02:00 PM)YNot Wrote:  Over the next four seasons, the American will go toe-to-toe with Boise St. for the G5 Access Bowl bid. The American will get it twice and Boise St. will get it twice. Each year, the Selection Committee waffles on who is ranked higher with each release of the CFP rankings and inexplicably propels one over the other in the final rankings.

American basketball grabs 4 or 5 NCAA tourney bids each season, with consistent Sweet 16 representation by UConn, Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulsa, and/or SMU, and surprising Final Four runs by both Temple and Houston in the 2017 tournament.

As Aresco enters TV deal extension negotiations following the 2018 season, he courts Boise St. and San Diego State again. As talks heat up, BYU and Colorado St. are also part of the expansion discussion and talks elevate to full-membership expansion.

In desperation, MWC commissioner Craig Thompson pleads with Aresco for a deal that includes strong MWC-American regular season scheduling and bowl affiliations and an American-MWC championship game - essentially for the G5 Access Bowl bid. Reports are made that it is a done deal.

UConn and Cincinnati publicly threaten to defect to the Big East with the intention to enter into a scheduling affiliation with the MAC as a temporary program-sustaining option. Also, reports surface that Thompson was adamant that a new jointly-owned "Mountain America" channel was crucial to the deal and that all major decisions should be run through a joint headquarters in either Laramie or Logan. (After talks fizzle, Thompson labels the proposed new TV channel as a "no brainer" and retorts that Aresco could "take his pick" of the proposed joint headquarters location).

Ultimately, the announcement is made that the American adds a 6-team western division and a scheduling affiliation with Army. The new western division includes Boise St., BYU, Colorado St., San Diego St., UNLV, and Air Force. The Commander-in-Chief Trophy is essentially brought in-house and, along with the new western division, nets a 7-year TV deal with ESPN and CBS worth $18 million per school per year, starting with the 2020 football season. (Navy gets $15 mil per year as a football only member and Army gets $10 mil as part of the scheduling arrangement).

The deal guarantees a weekly American "game of the week broadcast" on ABC or CBS (alternating) as well as weekly Saturday broadcasts on both ESPN and ESPN2, and ESPN broadcasts on Thursday and Friday nights. It also provides for TWO weekly men's basketball games in January through March each year on ABC and CBS broadcast stations (alternating), the American tournament championship game on ABC or CBS (again, alternating), and over 120 men's basketball games on ESPN and ESPN2 throughout the season.

The deregulation of conference championships, that commenced in 2017, allows the American to establish a football conference championship tournament that includes the winners of the Eastern, Central, Western, and Armed Forces divisions, with the semi-final round hosted at the higher ranked teams' home fields. The football championship game venue rotates around the country. Although the CFP selection criteria are not revised, the G5 Access Bowl bid becomes known colloquially as the "American's NY6 berth."

In 2025, the American signs a deal with the Fiesta Bowl to send its annual champion to the game (a la the renewed relationships with Rose, Sugar, and Orange Bowls). To support its move, the Fiesta Bowl cites the fact that 9 out of the previous 10 bowl seasons it had hosted a team that is now a member of the American conference with tremendous attendance and TV ratings. Thus, the American is officially signed as part of the NY6 bowl system. In renewing it's rights to broadcast the new 8-team CFP, a clause is added that allows the Peach and Cotton Bowls to host the American champion, with the conference's permission.

This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

I see the 3 military academies being regulars in the Access Bowl....

.....on my assumption that 98 to 100% of G5 do NOT get called up to P5.

.....P5 does NOT break away.

.....in order to keep athletic departments financially solvent, G5 all drops to fcs. They do this to lessen the amount of (now pricier) scholarships. Yet all fcs will play an 8 to 16 team tournament to determine who gets into Access Bowl.....10 champs from the 10 strongest conferences for a given season + 6 at-larges per the Playoff Committee.

.....the playoff money the G5 is allotted currently will go to this 16-team Access Bowl Play-in.....split equally between rounds, and each rounds' cut split equally between the 16, 8, 4 and 2 teams (their conferences) in each round....Access Bowl revenue itself will remain as is currently ($6million total to team and their conference who plays in Access Bowl).

.....the remaining top fcs teams for that season will fill spots for whatever minor bowls are still alive....as 15 of the 16 fcs Access Bowl Play-in Tournament drop out, they will mostly fill the leftover minor bowls.

.....with the remaining .500+ fcs teams and conference champions playing the traditional fcs "tournament" (no longer a "championship", more like an NIT for D1 football as a reward for the players of teams who played well per given season....this will be a 24 to 32 team tournament with a little money per team per game from the NCAA to pay for travel.

.....all non-P5 D1 schools agree to go through a massive conference realignment to reconfigure more geographically as well as form into stronger basketball conferences. NCAA Basketball Tournament credits follow the teams.....this will also lessen travel expenses for all non-P5.

.....The strongest (newly configured) non-P5 conferences in football and basketball will get similar tv contracts as G5 gets currently.

Not sure how non-P5 eastern, southern and Texas/southwest conferences would shake out in this massive non-P5 realignment/reconfiguration, but I'm sure the SWC would resurrect.

I see Fresno State and other Cali/Nevada teams heading for the BigWest with (*) denoting football members.

*Hawaii
*San Jose St
*UC Davis
*Sacramento St
*Nevada
*UNLV
*Fresno St
*Cal Poly
*San Diego St
CS-Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS-Northridge
Long Beach St
UC Riverside
UC Irvine
CS-Fullerton

That's 16 for a strong basketball, baseball and fcs football conference....but I can also see BYU convincing WCC to grab UNLV, SanDiego St, Boise, Wyo, Colo St, AirForce and New Mexico, with USD leaving Pioneer League football and joining as 9th WCC football member.....leaving Fresno State in a decent 7-team fcs conference + 7 non-football members.

This is not what I hope for, but it is a "worst case" scenario I could be somewhat happy about and get used to real quicklike.

....and this scenario makes the 3 military academies almost regulars into the a Access Bowl Play-in Tournament almost every post season.

sounds like Hawaii is really struggling financially. They need to be in all pacific time zone conference for football like what they have going for Olympic sports in the Big West. Your idea would be great for them. Its odd, Hawaii seemed to thrive in the old WAC (pre-Karl Benson and his adding of 100 schools to the league) I remember Hawaii beating Iowa in the Hayden Fry, Chuck long era and it wasn't that huge of a deal. I wonder why the WAC pre 1996 had so many schools like Hawaii doing well, and they are now half the programs they used to be. Besides Hawaii, other good WAC football programs like Wyoming, Air Force and San Diego St aren't nearly as successful, and respected like they were in the old WAC days...seems like they never recovered from that 16 school idea/disaster in the late 90's

Cost of going to higher education for ANYBODY has skyrocketed since then. Hence the cost of athletic scholarships.....which are about to skyrocket even more exponentially if you want to maintain somewhat competitive FBS level football.

Cost of travel also higher rate of inflation than average CPI.....which, on top of travel subs Hawaii has to pay their conferences.....

Ticket prices to attend games....you name it.....this college football world with big tv contracts for a minority is way different than pre-WAC-16 NCAA football days.

(02-15-2015 05:04 PM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 12:58 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-15-2015 11:40 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(02-14-2015 12:02 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 06:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  This would be amazing.

I think the per team payout is very high and probably not feasible but all things considered there's really no reason the rest can't coalesce in 10 years.

I've been a huge proponent of the pod system semifinals. With a truely American conference consisting of:

WEST
• Air Force
• Boise State
• BYU
• Colorado State
• UNLV
• San Diego State
  

CENTRAL
• Cincinnati
• Memphis
• Houston
• SMU
• Tulsa
• Tulane
  

EAST
• Army
• UCF
• UConn
• ECU
• Navy
• Temple
• South Florida
  

Only issue is we now have 19 members. We should add 1 more and split to 4 divisions of 5

If I understand this correctly, you'd have 5 intradivision games + 4 interdivision (2 from each other division) a 4 team semifinal (3 division champions + At Large?) playing for what is essentially a guaranteed NYE6 bowl?

I could die happy with this arrangement.

But then you couldn't enjoy it!

I see Army ruling college football in 10 years.

I see the 3 military academies being regulars in the Access Bowl....

.....on my assumption that 98 to 100% of G5 do NOT get called up to P5.

.....P5 does NOT break away.

.....in order to keep athletic departments financially solvent, G5 all drops to fcs. They do this to lessen the amount of (now pricier) scholarships. Yet all fcs will play an 8 to 16 team tournament to determine who gets into Access Bowl.....10 champs from the 10 strongest conferences for a given season + 6 at-larges per the Playoff Committee.

.....the playoff money the G5 is allotted currently will go to this 16-team Access Bowl Play-in.....split equally between rounds, and each rounds' cut split equally between the 16, 8, 4 and 2 teams (their conferences) in each round....Access Bowl revenue itself will remain as is currently ($6million total to team and their conference who plays in Access Bowl).

.....the remaining top fcs teams for that season will fill spots for whatever minor bowls are still alive....as 15 of the 16 fcs Access Bowl Play-in Tournament drop out, they will mostly fill the leftover minor bowls.

.....with the remaining .500+ fcs teams and conference champions playing the traditional fcs "tournament" (no longer a "championship", more like an NIT for D1 football as a reward for the players of teams who played well per given season....this will be a 24 to 32 team tournament with a little money per team per game from the NCAA to pay for travel.

.....all non-P5 D1 schools agree to go through a massive conference realignment to reconfigure more geographically as well as form into stronger basketball conferences. NCAA Basketball Tournament credits follow the teams.....this will also lessen travel expenses for all non-P5.

.....The strongest (newly configured) non-P5 conferences in football and basketball will get similar tv contracts as G5 gets currently.

Not sure how non-P5 eastern, southern and Texas/southwest conferences would shake out in this massive non-P5 realignment/reconfiguration, but I'm sure the SWC would resurrect.

I see Fresno State and other Cali/Nevada teams heading for the BigWest with (*) denoting football members.

*Hawaii
*San Jose St
*UC Davis
*Sacramento St
*Nevada
*UNLV
*Fresno St
*Cal Poly
*San Diego St
CS-Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS-Northridge
Long Beach St
UC Riverside
UC Irvine
CS-Fullerton

That's 16 for a strong basketball, baseball and fcs football conference....but I can also see BYU convincing WCC to grab UNLV, SanDiego St, Boise, Wyo, Colo St, AirForce and New Mexico, with USD leaving Pioneer League football and joining as 9th WCC football member.....leaving Fresno State in a decent 7-team fcs conference + 7 non-football members.

This is not what I hope for, but it is a "worst case" scenario I could be somewhat happy about and get used to real quicklike.

....and this scenario makes the 3 military academies almost regulars into the a Access Bowl Play-in Tournament almost every post season.

sounds like Hawaii is really struggling financially. They need to be in all pacific time zone conference for football like what they have going for Olympic sports in the Big West. Your idea would be great for them. Its odd, Hawaii seemed to thrive in the old WAC (pre-Karl Benson and his adding of 100 schools to the league) I remember Hawaii beating Iowa in the Hayden Fry, Chuck long era and it wasn't that huge of a deal. I wonder why the WAC pre 1996 had so many schools like Hawaii doing well, and they are now half the programs they used to be. Besides Hawaii, other good WAC football programs like Wyoming, Air Force and San Diego St aren't nearly as successful, and respected like they were in the old WAC days...seems like they never recovered from that 16 school idea/disaster in the late 90's

Cost of going to higher education for ANYBODY has skyrocketed since then. Hence the cost of athletic scholarships.....which are about to skyrocket even more exponentially if you want to maintain somewhat competitive FBS level football.

Cost of travel also higher rate of inflation than average CPI.....which, on top of travel subs Hawaii has to pay their conferences.....

Ticket prices to attend games....you name it.....this college football world with big tv contracts for a minority is way different than pre-WAC-16 NCAA football days.

Honestly it's just not feasible for Hawai'i to be in a conference with the nearest member two time zones away. The MWC would be better off with Idaho, and yes i'm aware of the difficulties surrounding even that team.

Tulane will continue their tradition of playing in the highest level possible - and consistently losing.

I think Tulane stays in the AAC for about 12-16 years. We're not really a "jumpy" school. No P5 conference will offer Tulane a spot - and Tulane's campus-wide arrogance will not tolerate being in a "lesser" G5 conference.

If the MW and AAC merge, then Tulane will probably be a part of that - but I think that such a move isn't happening for about 8-10 years.