(02-10-2015 03:48 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  How about 15 NCAAF Programs That Should Pay Taxes:

Florida
USC
LSU
Ohio St.
Notre Dame
Michigan
Florida St.
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Clemson
Tennessee
South Carolina
Oregon

We probably can expand this list.

Beautiful! I love it!

(02-10-2015 07:20 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Southern Miss will have at least 38k at the first game, if not more, depending on how many temporary seats we can bring in. We also plan to start beating up on everybody in C-USM again, so 22k will be the bottom. We will soon average 32-35k.
Good times coming.

#PhoenixRising I believe it's coming...

(02-10-2015 02:02 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No doubt about that. I know some don't agree with this sentiment, but I wish we'd just break off from the P5 completely. It's going to happen anyway.

I agree with it completely! I want to see this happen someday soon with the quickness!

(02-10-2015 11:07 AM)Herd_fever Wrote:  Of that list, FIU is the one from CUSA who should shut down. The AD has turned the athletic department to crap, you don't even have a coaches box for opposing coaches and your facilities and fan support doesn't deserve to be Division 1A.

There is way too Division 1A schools with crappy facilities, crappy fan support, and never fielding competitive programs. Division 1A status should be reserved for the Top 100 programs that can field competitive teams, have legit fan support, teams that have good academic progress, and have top notch facilities. If you can't do that then you should be a 1A program

I agree with what you said about the facilities, but not every program is enjoying the level of support that a program like Marshall is getting, and deservedly so...But one cannot make bricks without straw (see the 10 Commandments), if the governing bodies of these schools would work with the boosters and donors/fans, etc., to ensure every D1A program has the resources they need to be competitive and successful, things would be much better, but we live in a society that lusts after domination and control, the kind of power that only craves more power (as in the so-called power 5). And today's college football landscape is no exception, they want to downsize & subjugate it to where the Mountain Wests, MACs, Sun Belts , AACs and Conference USA's fall by the wayside and into extinction, leaving only their chosen ones to vie for the mythical, panel-handpicked, ratings/image driven national championship. They don't want a level playing field, they want their own private sandbox to play in. And it makes me sick! Therefore, I am all for separation and self-determination for the above mentioned conferences if this is at all doable. And I really believe that it is!

(02-10-2015 11:32 AM)keebler645 Wrote:  Rant Sports is an even crappier Bleacher Report so don't read anything into the "article."

That being said, I really wish FBS had a set number of teams and there was a soccer-style promotion/relegation system between FBS and FCS.

While I love the relegation concept it would never work in college sports because of the conference centric structure and the scholarship system. If say USM gets relegated how do you compensate for the drop from 85 to 63 scholarships?

(02-10-2015 07:20 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Southern Miss will have at least 38k at the first game, if not more, depending on how many temporary seats we can bring in. We also plan to start beating up on everybody in C-USM again, so 22k will be the bottom. We will soon average 32-35k.
Good times coming.

I don't know about averaging over 30K "soon," but we'll be back to 27-28K regularly again if we can get our act together on the field.

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2015/02/10...-athletics

Looks like SC State might be the next one.

(02-10-2015 01:46 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 01:41 PM)Herd_fever Wrote:  For a small school in a small town that's in a 5 hour radius of WVU, UK, Louisville, Ohio State, Pitt, VT, UVA, Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, and Tennessee.

We do quite well as far attendence and we have the potential to be bigger

Potential to be like LSU probably. Or even Ohio State. Maybe the most attended game EVER will be at the Joan.

Also, everyone is within 5 hours of a bunch of P5 schools except UTEP.

Not living on the east coast could be a little deceiving, not many cities in between El Paso and some p5 schools, but U of A, ASU and TT all with in a 5 hour drive... well, Phoenix not quite, that is about 5 and a half if you don't catch rush hour in Tucson. Even Austin is only a 7 hour drive, which is short considering Texas standards.

(02-10-2015 03:45 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  UTEP, UTSA, and Marshall are pulling their weight.

ODU's attendance is limited by the size of Foreman Field. Every game has been a sell-out, just saying.

(02-11-2015 08:38 AM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 03:45 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  UTEP, UTSA, and Marshall are pulling their weight.

ODU's attendance is limited by the size of Foreman Field. Every game has been a sell-out, just saying.

I've been impressed with the support at ODU. Is the new stadium plan still stuck in neutral?

(02-11-2015 08:58 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 08:38 AM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 03:45 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  UTEP, UTSA, and Marshall are pulling their weight.

ODU's attendance is limited by the size of Foreman Field. Every game has been a sell-out, just saying.

I've been impressed with the support at ODU. Is the new stadium plan still stuck in neutral?

Pretty much. I think they're still in trying to figure out funding.

(02-11-2015 10:21 AM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 08:58 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 08:38 AM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 03:45 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  UTEP, UTSA, and Marshall are pulling their weight.

ODU's attendance is limited by the size of Foreman Field. Every game has been a sell-out, just saying.

I've been impressed with the support at ODU. Is the new stadium plan still stuck in neutral?

Pretty much. I think they're still in trying to figure out funding.

What are you talking about? We just finished collecting bids for the consultant and the selection has been made. The consultant's report is due by July 1, meaning we should see the conceptual renderings some time late summer/early fall.

(02-11-2015 08:58 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 08:38 AM)Oduniceguy Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 03:45 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  UTEP, UTSA, and Marshall are pulling their weight.

ODU's attendance is limited by the size of Foreman Field. Every game has been a sell-out, just saying.

I've been impressed with the support at ODU. Is the new stadium plan still stuck in neutral?

^^^ Well there's your answer Miner. lol.

(02-10-2015 08:36 PM)Matrix Wrote:  But one cannot make bricks without straw (see the 10 Commandments) ...

??

Thou Shalt Not Make Bricks Without Straw? I missed that one.

But Googling around, I see that "bricks without straw" is "a phrase which refers to a task which must be done without appropriate resources" ... and is based on the story, told in the Bible's book of Exodus (Chapter 5), of Moses, Aaron, the enslaved Israelites in Egypt and the Pharaoh.

While adobe bricks are still made today around the world by air-drying a mixture of clay and straw, they have relatively low strength. Collapsed adobe structures during relatively moderate earthquakes cause many deaths and displacements in poor areas.

Modern bricks are typically mixtures of clay and sand -- "without straw" -- that are hardened to a much higher strength when baked in a kiln.

Maybe the Commandment should be: "Thou Shalt Bake Your Bricks Without Straw." (And then further reinforce that structure against earthquakes.) :-)

(02-10-2015 10:33 AM)Matrix Wrote:  Was wondering if anyone else saw this before I did a couple of days ago? This was on the Rant Sports.com site (dated 12/2/14), they had each team ranked and 4 of the 15 programs are in Conference USA. Remember the dialogue we shared a while back about them coming after the so-called "little" programs someday, if you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu..." And by the way, I don't approve of shutting down a football program one tiny bit, let alone someone suggesting that they do...They need to be stopped before they get started. Long Live Conference USA.

1-Louisiana Monroe
2-New Mexico State
3-UTEP
4-Iowa State
5-Temple
6-Eastern Michigan
7-UMass
8-Kansas
9-Kent State
10-SMU
11-UConn
12-Florida International
13-Indiana
14-Florida Atlantic
15-Nevada Las Vegas...

The only 3 that should really be on that list right now are Eastern Michigan, Temple and Louisiana Monroe. UMass is probably another for serious consideration. Jury is still out on schools like Appy State, and a few other Mac schools. You can probably throw Troy and Idaho on that list as well.

(02-10-2015 08:27 PM)Matrix Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 02:02 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No doubt about that. I know some don't agree with this sentiment, but I wish we'd just break off from the P5 completely. It's going to happen anyway.

I agree with it completely! I want to see this happen someday soon with the quickness!

this is where i choose to disagree....

if that happens, I'll just say good-bye with a smile.....so will any 'money' that may pay atten-shun.....git it?

we fight the same fight.....

against the same foe....

sew, fo-get dat! (I have to go urban so I don't get banned.....lmao at that too)

(02-11-2015 12:58 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:33 AM)Matrix Wrote:  Was wondering if anyone else saw this before I did a couple of days ago? This was on the Rant Sports.com site (dated 12/2/14), they had each team ranked and 4 of the 15 programs are in Conference USA. Remember the dialogue we shared a while back about them coming after the so-called "little" programs someday, if you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu..." And by the way, I don't approve of shutting down a football program one tiny bit, let alone someone suggesting that they do...They need to be stopped before they get started. Long Live Conference USA.

1-Louisiana Monroe
2-New Mexico State
3-UTEP
4-Iowa State
5-Temple
6-Eastern Michigan
7-UMass
8-Kansas
9-Kent State
10-SMU
11-UConn
12-Florida International
13-Indiana
14-Florida Atlantic
15-Nevada Las Vegas...

The only 3 that should really be on that list right now are Eastern Michigan, Temple and Louisiana Monroe. UMass is probably another for serious consideration. Jury is still out on schools like Appy State, and a few other Mac schools. You can probably throw Troy and Idaho on that list as well.

No way Appy football should be on that list.....maybe their basketball program.

(02-11-2015 12:40 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 08:36 PM)Matrix Wrote:  But one cannot make bricks without straw (see the 10 Commandments) ...

??

Thou Shalt Not Make Bricks Without Straw? I missed that one.

But Googling around, I see that "bricks without straw" is "a phrase which refers to a task which must be done without appropriate resources" ... and is based on the story, told in the Bible's book of Exodus (Chapter 5), of Moses, Aaron, the enslaved Israelites in Egypt and the Pharaoh.

While adobe bricks are still made today around the world by air-drying a mixture of clay and straw, they have relatively low strength. Collapsed adobe structures during relatively moderate earthquakes cause many deaths and displacements in poor areas.

Modern bricks are typically mixtures of clay and sand -- "without straw" -- that are hardened to a much higher strength when baked in a kiln.

Maybe the Commandment should be: "Thou Shalt Bake Your Bricks Without Straw." (And then further reinforce that structure against earthquakes.) :-)

the only thing missing at this point.......yep, hitler/nazi ref.....

(02-11-2015 01:05 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 12:58 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 10:33 AM)Matrix Wrote:  Was wondering if anyone else saw this before I did a couple of days ago? This was on the Rant Sports.com site (dated 12/2/14), they had each team ranked and 4 of the 15 programs are in Conference USA. Remember the dialogue we shared a while back about them coming after the so-called "little" programs someday, if you don't have a seat at the dinner table, you are probably on the menu..." And by the way, I don't approve of shutting down a football program one tiny bit, let alone someone suggesting that they do...They need to be stopped before they get started. Long Live Conference USA.

1-Louisiana Monroe
2-New Mexico State
3-UTEP
4-Iowa State
5-Temple
6-Eastern Michigan
7-UMass
8-Kansas
9-Kent State
10-SMU
11-UConn
12-Florida International
13-Indiana
14-Florida Atlantic
15-Nevada Las Vegas...

The only 3 that should really be on that list right now are Eastern Michigan, Temple and Louisiana Monroe. UMass is probably another for serious consideration. Jury is still out on schools like Appy State, and a few other Mac schools. You can probably throw Troy and Idaho on that list as well.

No way Appy football should be on that list.....maybe their basketball program.

Like I said...."Jury is still out" on them. Little surprised Georgia State isnt on that list as well. Bottom line...you cant accept "cans of corn" for admission at this level. You either have the donors and a solid fan base that will be with the program through thick and thin or you dont survive.

(02-11-2015 12:40 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 08:36 PM)Matrix Wrote:  But one cannot make bricks without straw (see the 10 Commandments) ...

??

Thou Shalt Not Make Bricks Without Straw? I missed that one.

But Googling around, I see that "bricks without straw" is "a phrase which refers to a task which must be done without appropriate resources" ... and is based on the story, told in the Bible's book of Exodus (Chapter 5), of Moses, Aaron, the enslaved Israelites in Egypt and the Pharaoh.

While adobe bricks are still made today around the world by air-drying a mixture of clay and straw, they have relatively low strength. Collapsed adobe structures during relatively moderate earthquakes cause many deaths and displacements in poor areas.

Modern bricks are typically mixtures of clay and sand -- "without straw" -- that are hardened to a much higher strength when baked in a kiln.

Maybe the Commandment should be: "Thou Shalt Bake Your Bricks Without Straw." (And then further reinforce that structure against earthquakes.) :-)

I love this post. Knowledge is such a great thing to pass along!