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Are there Any Non Crooked Politicians From Illinois ?

(02-06-2015 01:56 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Are there Any Non Crooked Politicians From Illinois ?

Nope.. it's Illinois.

I will say that the precursor to the article is pretty much a "WTF are you doing, Mr. Schock", but to me the House-sale bit is a bit of a stretch to find something to go after Schock for... you go for the most money that you can get, even if it's from.. "friends" (read donors), but can they prove nobody else had an interest in paying the horrid price tag.

(02-06-2015 02:14 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 01:56 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Are there Any Non Crooked Politicians From Illinois ?

Nope.. it's Illinois.

I will say that the precursor to the article is pretty much a "WTF are you doing, Mr. Schock", but to me the House-sale bit is a bit of a stretch to find something to go after Schock for... you go for the most money that you can get, even if it's from.. "friends" (read donors), but can they prove nobody else had an interest in paying the horrid price tag.

It just smells bad. I don't know the vagarities of the Peoria IL real estate market (other than to know that million dollar homes are quite rare). But they'll be an investigation of some sort.

If I were a congressman, I'd direct my real estate agent to not selll my home to a major campaign contributor.

I'm trying to figure out if there are any Dims that GayTom WILL go after.

(02-06-2015 02:22 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I'm trying to figure out if there are any Dims that GayTom WILL go after.

I hate self dealers, regardless of party. Blago was one. He got what he deserved.

(02-06-2015 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  It just smells bad. I don't know the vagarities of the Peoria IL real estate market (other than to know that million dollar homes are quite rare). But they'll be an investigation of some sort.

If I were a congressman, I'd direct my real estate agent to not selll my home to a major campaign contributor.

Fishy, yes, but illegal or corrupt? That one has to be proven first and foremost, which would be kind of hard (IMO)..

(02-06-2015 01:56 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Are there Any Non Crooked Politicians?

Not likely.

(02-06-2015 02:22 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I'm trying to figure out if there are any Dims that GayTom WILL go after.

Right...because liberals have to go after their own while the right doesn't. It's an old bit and we're tired of it.

(02-06-2015 02:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:22 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I'm trying to figure out if there are any Dims that GayTom WILL go after.

I hate self dealers, regardless of party. Blago was one. He got what he deserved.

Then you should be all over Obama for his cozy-cozy with Tony Rezko.

The link to the article is blocked by my company.. But my question is how did an R get elected in Illinois? And if he's corrupt, then let him burn.

(02-06-2015 02:27 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  It just smells bad. I don't know the vagarities of the Peoria IL real estate market (other than to know that million dollar homes are quite rare). But they'll be an investigation of some sort.

If I were a congressman, I'd direct my real estate agent to not selll my home to a major campaign contributor.

Fishy, yes, but illegal or corrupt? That one has to be proven first and foremost, which would be kind of hard (IMO)..

They got Duke Cunningham for the same thing.

A home is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Also, the contributions by the buyer to 3 different entities over a decade was only $45K, not exactly a large sum in the political world.

(02-06-2015 02:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:27 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  It just smells bad. I don't know the vagarities of the Peoria IL real estate market (other than to know that million dollar homes are quite rare). But they'll be an investigation of some sort.

If I were a congressman, I'd direct my real estate agent to not selll my home to a major campaign contributor.

Fishy, yes, but illegal or corrupt? That one has to be proven first and foremost, which would be kind of hard (IMO)..

They got Duke Cunningham for the same thing.

That was California, so it is apples and oranges. For a true comparison, Barry Soetoro and Tony Rezko got away with it.

(02-06-2015 02:51 PM)VA49er Wrote:  A home is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

As long as they are a cash buyer, this is 100% correct. A cash buyer can pay anything they damn well please. It's the mortgage company that has concerns about comparable values.

Doesn't make this situation any less smelly, however. Who on earth thought this was remotely a good transaction? Once again, I should throw myself back into Illinois politics because I am convinced that I would always, always, be the smartest person in the room.

FFS, Illinois politics.

Interesting article. I'd like to see how that guy only paid $130K (or whatever the amount was - it was close to that) for the home back in 2003 when it was first built. I don't see any brand new 4 bedroom homes in gated communities period for that price now or a decade ago. To me, the price he paid in 2003 is more suspicious than selling his home now for about 300K above the market price. You can possibly get that type of asking price if you have put in a lot of expensive upgrades.

(02-06-2015 02:40 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:22 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I'm trying to figure out if there are any Dims that GayTom WILL go after.

I hate self dealers, regardless of party. Blago was one. He got what he deserved.

Then you should be all over Obama for his cozy-cozy with Tony Rezko.

Thanks for bringing this up. Lots of dirt there, certainly more to it than the op.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko#/editor/6

(02-06-2015 02:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 02:22 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  I'm trying to figure out if there are any Dims that GayTom WILL go after.

Right...because liberals have to go after their own while the right doesn't. It's an old bit and we're tired of it.

As usual, you missed the entire point of my post. The fact that the right goes after their own and you ignore that, is on you not me.

(02-06-2015 01:56 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Are there Any Non Crooked Politicians From Illinois ?

Absolutely the first thing I thought when I read the thread title.

What the heck is it? If they're not flat out crooks, they're apparently lunatics. Seems to go that way for many of the Ill. posters around here too. Something in that water it would seem.

(02-06-2015 03:07 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Interesting article. I'd like to see how that guy only paid $130K (or whatever the amount was - it was close to that) for the home back in 2003 when it was first built. I don't see any brand new 4 bedroom homes in gated communities period for that price now or a decade ago. To me, the price he paid in 2003 is more suspicious than selling his home now for about 300K above the market price. You can possibly get that type of asking price if you have put in a lot of expensive upgrades.

Agreed, after reading that, there's no way that could have even been built for 130 in 2003. I'd bet that's a land value, and they built the house on top- and someone didn't do their homework. Notice NONE of the other "comps" has an initial selling price.

Further there are others that approach 800k, so it's entirely possible he's got the 2.5 acre lot while the frest are 1/2, or the joints got subzero this and Viking that. Built in theater, pool and sauna. Who knows.

I don't see this going anywhere, but no, it's not a good look.