HeartOfDixie
Hall of Famer
Posts: 24,689
Joined: Oct 2013
Reputation: 945
I Root For: Alabama
Location: Huntsville AL
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 02:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: (02-02-2015 01:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: It is still possible to get measles even if you are vaccinated.
The idiots who didn't vaccinate their kids and who now have it are in a slightly different boat.
Has anybody confirmed that every single case thus far has been with a person who wasn't vaccinated?
It is all really beside the point. The point is that if you are going to be a selfish ass and put others at risk, you pay.
Six of the cases are people who were vaccinated. Two of the six were not completely vaccinated as it requires more than one shot to achieve full immunity.
http://www.business2community.com/health...n-01137540
Thanks!
That goes right to my point.
I bet there are a lot of folks out there right now who think they are pretty safe but are not. From what I just looked up the vaccine is never entirely effective, even after two rounds. Folks who receive just the first round show effective rates ranging from 80-90%.
Still, the point is that these fools put otherwise responsible people at risk. It gets no more selfish and those people should pay for the harm that comes from their stupidity.
(This post was last modified: 02-02-2015 02:07 PM by HeartOfDixie.)
|
|
02-02-2015 02:06 PM |
|
BleedsHuskieRed
All American
Posts: 10,067
Joined: Jan 2006
Reputation: 78
I Root For: NIU
Location: Colorado Springs
|
RE: Got measles?
Infants who are too young to be vaccinated are also at risk. Simply stunning that people are shunning science due to "feelings".
|
|
02-02-2015 02:08 PM |
|
mptnstr@44
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11,047
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 427
I Root For: Nati Bearcats
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 02:08 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote: Infants who are too young to be vaccinated are also at risk. Simply stunning that people are shunning science due to "feelings".
The selfishness of people who chose to not vaccinate is mind-boggling. They were ill-informed and decided to rely on herd immunity for protection. But you only get herd immunity if the vast majority of people are protected. As soon as that percentage drops below a certain level in an area (i.e. Orange County) and the virus is introduced the threat of a serious outbreak is realized.
And due to the mobility of the populace in today's society we now have measles cases in about half of the states. It's just a matter of time until it is in every state. One infected person visiting Disneyland is now over 100 reported cases in just one months time. Do the math.
Those who opted to not vaccinate were basically saying "you get your kids vaccinated so that my kid doesn't have to be vaccinated." I really have no sympathy for someone who chose not to vaccinate and they or their child contracts measles.
(This post was last modified: 02-02-2015 04:25 PM by mptnstr@44.)
|
|
02-02-2015 02:16 PM |
|
Fitbud
Banned
Posts: 30,983
Joined: Dec 2011
I Root For: PAC 12
Location:
|
|
02-02-2015 02:25 PM |
|
muffinman
1st String
Posts: 1,603
Joined: Dec 2014
Reputation: 84
I Root For: Memphis State
Location: Missour-ah
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 02:08 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote: Infants who are too young to be vaccinated are also at risk. Simply stunning that people are shunning science due to "feelings".
My son caught a preventable (by vaccine) form of menigitis when he was 6-weeks old. He was 2-weeks shy of getting his first rounds of vaccines. It was a rough few weeks there, but luckily, 2-months and $120k hospital bill later, he survived and is a healthy, normal 2 year old. Not all people are as lucky as we were.
Just because you have a baby doesnt mean you have to stop your life for months on end. We eventually had to take him to the grocery store one time at 5 weeks. That one time is all it took, a few days later he started showing symptoms.
I'll never understand the anti-vax crowd. They will never know the destruction they cause, for some "science" they think is true.
(This post was last modified: 02-02-2015 02:38 PM by muffinman.)
|
|
02-02-2015 02:38 PM |
|
mptnstr@44
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11,047
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 427
I Root For: Nati Bearcats
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 02:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Before you pin it on liberals, take a look at how the right wing nuts on Infowars sees it.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-get-your-kids-vaccinated/
Read the comments.
The anti-vaccine crowd is not party specific although it does lean to the left. There are people who are ignorant of science and believe unsubstantiated rumors posted on the internet and elsewhere that sit on both sides of the aisle.
|
|
02-02-2015 04:27 PM |
|
mptnstr@44
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11,047
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 427
I Root For: Nati Bearcats
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 02:38 PM)muffinman Wrote: (02-02-2015 02:08 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote: Infants who are too young to be vaccinated are also at risk. Simply stunning that people are shunning science due to "feelings".
My son caught a preventable (by vaccine) form of menigitis when he was 6-weeks old. He was 2-weeks shy of getting his first rounds of vaccines. It was a rough few weeks there, but luckily, 2-months and $120k hospital bill later, he survived and is a healthy, normal 2 year old. Not all people are as lucky as we were.
Just because you have a baby doesnt mean you have to stop your life for months on end. We eventually had to take him to the grocery store one time at 5 weeks. That one time is all it took, a few days later he started showing symptoms.
I'll never understand the anti-vax crowd. They will never know the destruction they cause, for some "science" they think is true.
I am glad your son recovered and is fine. It is a shame that he (and his parents) had to go through something totally preventable like meningitis.
The anti-vax advocates don't have science to back up their claims. Only pseudo-science.
|
|
02-02-2015 04:30 PM |
|
Fitbud
Banned
Posts: 30,983
Joined: Dec 2011
I Root For: PAC 12
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 04:27 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: (02-02-2015 02:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Before you pin it on liberals, take a look at how the right wing nuts on Infowars sees it.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-get-your-kids-vaccinated/
Read the comments.
The anti-vaccine crowd is not party specific although it does lean to the left. There are people who are ignorant of science and believe unsubstantiated rumors posted on the internet and elsewhere that sit on both sides of the aisle.
That was the point I was trying to make.
|
|
02-02-2015 04:42 PM |
|
VA49er
Legend
Posts: 29,134
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
(02-02-2015 04:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (02-02-2015 04:27 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: (02-02-2015 02:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote: Before you pin it on liberals, take a look at how the right wing nuts on Infowars sees it.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-get-your-kids-vaccinated/
Read the comments.
The anti-vaccine crowd is not party specific although it does lean to the left. There are people who are ignorant of science and believe unsubstantiated rumors posted on the internet and elsewhere that sit on both sides of the aisle.
That was the point I was trying to make.
I can agree with that. Folks on both sides that refuse to vaccinate primarily due to refuted data.
|
|
02-02-2015 05:30 PM |
|
VA49er
Legend
Posts: 29,134
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
Yes, "Measles Parties" actually exist. Some folks should never be parents. Hard to believe some people are actually that stupid.
Stay Away From 'Measles Parties' Docs Warn Parents
snippet:
Quote:California health officials are warning parents not to hold "measles parties" that intentionally expose their children to measles and other childhood diseases.
The California Department of Public Health "strongly recommends against the intentional exposure of children to measles as it unnecessarily places the exposed children at potentially grave risk and could contribute to further spread of the outbreak," the agency said in a statement today
(This post was last modified: 02-10-2015 03:37 PM by VA49er.)
|
|
02-10-2015 03:36 PM |
|
UCF08
Hall of Famer
Posts: 12,262
Joined: Feb 2011
Reputation: 211
I Root For: UCF
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
One of the main concerns regarding the lack of immunization is that certain segments of the population really *can't* take the immunizations, due to past reactions or legitimate health issues like leukemia, and they rely on our overall immunizations to prevent the disease from ever making a beachhead and spreading. Herd immunity is a thing, and small drops in overall immunization rates have disproportionate responses.
Also, remember, vaccines aren't perfect and don't last forever. So even someone who is responsible for themselves can be hurt from this.
|
|
02-11-2015 01:30 AM |
|
VA49er
Legend
Posts: 29,134
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
|
RE: Got measles?
I guess when study after study dispels the rumors, folks resort to this type of thing.
Anti-vaccination group's idea of comparing vaccinations to rape.
(This post was last modified: 04-23-2015 11:05 AM by VA49er.)
|
|
04-23-2015 11:05 AM |
|
HeartOfDixie
Hall of Famer
Posts: 24,689
Joined: Oct 2013
Reputation: 945
I Root For: Alabama
Location: Huntsville AL
|
RE: Got measles?
I still think this is a perfect problem for our tort laws to handle.
|
|
04-23-2015 11:08 AM |
|