Unfortunately, the SEC re-stated their current stance with BYU...not a P5.

(01-29-2015 01:42 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Unfortunately, the SEC re-stated their current stance with BYU...not a P5.

Yeah, the ACC stance helps, gives them some legitimacy.... but a few more conferences do it they are still stuck in no man's land. At least its a start for them.

I have no dog in the fight concerning BYU, but I thinks its crap they aren't in a P5 conference. I understand the religious angle, but just on fan base, facilities and FB & BB alone the belong.

(01-29-2015 01:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 12:23 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m4 minutes ago
ACC changes stance: games vs. #BYU will count toward Power 5 non-league requirement, sources told @ESPN

So memphis beat a PG team in a bowl.

Yup. Twice.

(01-29-2015 02:27 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 01:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 12:23 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m4 minutes ago
ACC changes stance: games vs. #BYU will count toward Power 5 non-league requirement, sources told @ESPN

So memphis beat a PG team in a bowl.

Yup. Twice.

Yes Indeed.

(01-29-2015 01:42 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Unfortunately, the SEC re-stated their current stance with BYU...not a P5.

Suck the FEC.

Does wake count as a p5. Wussies

Did the B1G or PAC declare BYU one way or the other? I only remember seeing the ACC and the SEC doing so.

(01-29-2015 01:26 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  Amazing how they change their "stance" when it's convenient for them.

Has nothing to do with seeing BYU as a peer, but the lack of OOC game availability against B12, PAC, B1G due to 9 conference games.

Makes you wonder if several of the teams in the noncontract conferences were independent if the same stance would likely apply.

This P5 / G5 stuff is just a load of &%*%()O#*#) !!

Some animals are more equal than others.

(01-29-2015 02:19 PM)bearcat29 Wrote:  I have no dog in the fight concerning BYU, but I thinks its crap they aren't in a P5 conference. I understand the religious angle, but just on fan base, facilities and FB & BB alone the belong.

Since when has it been a merit system?

It's always been about Old Money versus New Money, and who sat to eat with a future storied program (i.e. Bama, Texas) a Century ago.

Tulane, Houston, SMU, etc, were at that dinner table at one time. However, the football Gods rotated the chairs.

It is that arbitrary.

(01-29-2015 03:22 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Did the B1G or PAC declare BYU one way or the other? I only remember seeing the ACC and the SEC doing so.

Only ACC and SEC. BYU has 21 future games scheduled with the PAC and quite a few with B1G so they may see the benefit of similar declaration. Also recently scheduled Mizzou and LSU.
With these 9 game conf schedules its a convenient grab.
You wonder if some other schools could get this concession if not in a G5 conference? I could name a few.

McMurtry said today he expected 8 or so schools to be chosen when the next round of expansion happens when the current TV contracts are ending.

(01-29-2015 03:47 PM)Bluecoug Wrote:  You wonder if some other schools could get this concession if not in a G5 conference? I could name a few.

What concession? This doesn't give BYU an in to a New Years Day Bowl game. It's just a paperwork designation for scheduling ACC games. We have teams already that play the ACC OOC.

The ACC is the weakest of the autonomy conferences. The SEC's ruling completely contradicted it.

Looks to me like the ACC is worried about their position in the world, so they arbitrarily decided to flip BYU games from 'non' to 'P5'. Smoke and mirrors, literally nothing else changed, BYU is the same thing today they were yesterday. If the SEC does not see BYU this way, it makes the ACC look silly.

In the end, what does it matter how the BYU game is 'counted'. It's still up to pollsters, right? Is an ACC team with a similar record to a B12 or PAC team going to claim that a win over BYU is bigger than a win over UCF/Cinci/etc.? This is ridiculous.

Really glad Memphis took 'em down! lol

(01-29-2015 03:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 03:47 PM)Bluecoug Wrote:  

What concession? This doesn't give BYU an in to a New Years Day Bowl game. It's just a paperwork designation for scheduling ACC games. We have teams already that play the ACC OOC.

The ACC is the weakest of the autonomy conferences. The SEC's ruling completely contradicted it.

Scheduling has been the tough part of being Indy. As I noted the PAC in particular has many games scheduled with BYU. It would make sense (since when has that mattered) for them to agree with the ACC.

With a higher SOS an at large selection is attainable even a playoff spot. Winning games is the only chance any team has. The chance for individual G5 teams to get the NY6 isn't very good either. I'm trying to look at each game as a season. I'm excited about playing 6-7 big name teams on a regular basis in all regions of the country. If we ha
ve a great season its up to the committee. I would prefer to be in a P5 conf as would the vast majority here.

Sometimes you have to take the small victories. I see this statement by the ACC as one. Its definitely a positive in perception

(01-29-2015 01:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 12:23 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m4 minutes ago
ACC changes stance: games vs. #BYU will count toward Power 5 non-league requirement, sources told @ESPN

So memphis beat a PG team in a bowl. :cheers:

We also won the post game entertainment that they started and we finished. Don't bring none, won't be none....GO TIGERS!!!!

(01-29-2015 04:40 PM)wylioats Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 01:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 12:23 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m4 minutes ago
ACC changes stance: games vs. #BYU will count toward Power 5 non-league requirement, sources told @ESPN

So memphis beat a PG team in a bowl. :cheers:

We also won the post game entertainment that they started and we finished. Don't bring none, won't be none....GO TIGERS!!!!

At the BYU sideline no less.

(01-29-2015 04:42 PM)Bluecoug Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 04:40 PM)wylioats Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 01:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 12:23 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m4 minutes ago
ACC changes stance: games vs. #BYU will count toward Power 5 non-league requirement, sources told @ESPN

So memphis beat a PG team in a bowl. :cheers:

We also won the post game entertainment that they started and we finished. Don't bring none, won't be none....GO TIGERS!!!!

At the BYU sideline no less.

Yes, where our fans and band were located (damn baseball stadium). After each win, our players always come up to the fans and band and sing the fight song. A BYU player pushed a Tiger player and got pushed back. That punk ass #12 for BYU went after a Tiger player and got knocked into next week. #12 then sucker punched (twice) our #40 and ran like the chickens--t that he is. So don't spew that crap that we came over to the BYU bench. I was there and saw the whole thing. Some of the BYU players were just pizzed because they lost the game. In another words they started something they couldn't finish. Memphis isn't the only school that's had trouble with BYU, so don't come over here acting like the BYU players are the little choir boys that they're supposed to be. Like I said, don't bring none, won't be none.

Funny that a team that went .500 against the AAC this year is deemed to be P5, but we're not. Hell, the ACC's policy is laughable since Boston College just scheduled a 2nd FCS team rather than playing UCF.

(01-29-2015 04:58 PM)wylioats Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 04:42 PM)Bluecoug Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 04:40 PM)wylioats Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 01:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 12:23 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 4m4 minutes ago
ACC changes stance: games vs. #BYU will count toward Power 5 non-league requirement, sources told @ESPN

So memphis beat a PG team in a bowl. :cheers:

We also won the post game entertainment that they started and we finished. Don't bring none, won't be none....GO TIGERS!!!!

At the BYU sideline no less.

Yes, where our fans and band were located (damn baseball stadium). After each win, our players always come up to the fans and band and sing the fight song. A BYU player pushed a Tiger player and got pushed back. That punk ass #12 for BYU went after a Tiger player and got knocked into next week. #12 then sucker punched (twice) our #40 and ran like the chickens--t that he is. So don't spew that crap that we came over to the BYU bench. I was there and saw the whole thing. Some of the BYU players were just pizzed because they lost the game. In another words they started something they couldn't finish. Memphis isn't the only school that's had trouble with BYU, so don't come over here acting like the BYU players are the little choir boys that they're supposed to be. Like I said, don't bring none, won't be none.

Guess yall should of warned us ahead of time instead of celebrating on our sideline. The powers that be that set up this Bowl game created the potential for this situation. They should apologize. Good chance similar post game mess with lots of teams with a finish like that game. I for one thought it was over in 1 OT with the TD catch that was disallowed. And yes #12 for BYU was an embarrassing punk. Memphis had punks too but they weren't so embarrassing.

(01-29-2015 05:09 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Funny that a team that went .500 against the AAC this year is deemed to be P5, but we're not. Hell, the ACC's policy is laughable since Boston College just scheduled a 2nd FCS team rather than playing UCF.

The whole P5 thing is laughable with some of the teams that have been cellar dwellers in their leagues for decades. Most of them also have small stadiums and/or don't draw good attendance. BYU has a decades old history of success a top 30 size stadium. We're also available without accepting a whole conference.
Try going Indy. Its a tough road but separates you from the pack.

This isn't even a story. The ACC doesn't even enforce this "requirement".

NC State's 2015 OOC SChedule

Troy
Eastern Kentucky
@ODU
@South Alabama



Their requirements also state "no more than one FCS opponent"

BC plays Maine and Howard next year
UNC plays NC A&T and Delaware