If anything he has defrauded the University and the ambassadors. His lack of coaching acumen was only masked by the elite talent he had at his disposal the last few years.

How is he a fraud? It's not like he applied for the position.

(01-25-2015 03:13 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  exactly. Identify them weaknesses and shore them up!

I love how this thread has evolved: lol.

One guard could change everything. But then the queens can't have their drama.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. This trainwreck isn't on Pastner in your mind because he doesn't have the right players on his roster? Whose responsibility is it to get the right players on the team?

(01-25-2015 08:13 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 03:13 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  exactly. Identify them weaknesses and shore them up!

I love how this thread has evolved: lol.

One guard could change everything. But then the queens can't have their drama.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. This trainwreck isn't on Pastner in your mind because he doesn't have the right players on his roster? Whose responsibility is it to get the right players on the team?

lol. The same folks who snagged Austin.

(01-25-2015 02:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:31 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:09 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol. I would like to start a petition; to ban the semicolon; to erase it from all back logs of posts; to identify for what it truly is; a symbol of bygone ages.

I would add the ... to the petition...it's really irritating reading posts where that is the main form of punctuation....I really hate it...

hey, I was the first one here to do the ... in posts...

Actually....I like the dots...
They are the punctuation of continuance....lol

I use them for pauses. I know a comma would suffice....but I just gotta be different you know.

(01-25-2015 08:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:31 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:09 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol. I would like to start a petition; to ban the semicolon; to erase it from all back logs of posts; to identify for what it truly is; a symbol of bygone ages.

I would add the ... to the petition...it's really irritating reading posts where that is the main form of punctuation....I really hate it...

hey, I was the first one here to do the ... in posts...

Actually....I like the dots...
They are the punctuation of continuance....lol

I use them for pauses. I know a comma would suffice....but I just gotta be different you know.

They are longer than commas.... and more promising. There's the possibility that poetic musings might be on the way....every time you see them...like a bridge...or little stepping stones to the better parts of the human mind...lol.

(01-25-2015 08:55 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:31 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  I would add the ... to the petition...it's really irritating reading posts where that is the main form of punctuation....I really hate it...

hey, I was the first one here to do the ... in posts...

Actually....I like the dots...
They are the punctuation of continuance....lol

I use them for pauses. I know a comma would suffice....but I just gotta be different you know.

They are longer than commas.... and more promising. There's the possibility that poetic musings might be on the way....every time you see them...like a bridge...or little stepping stones to the better parts of the human mind...lol.

Ellipses are perfectly acceptable punctuation marks. Your hatred for Pastner is the reason for your not appreciating them!

(01-25-2015 08:07 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  How is he a fraud? It's not like he applied for the position.

He stuck it to our admin and forced them to overpay to keep him around. Should have let him go to USC IMO.

(01-25-2015 08:03 PM)spankadelphia Wrote:  If anything he has defrauded the University and the ambassadors. His lack of coaching acumen was only masked by the elite talent he had at his disposal the last few years.

"Elite" talent that is tearing up the league?

(01-25-2015 09:06 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:55 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:17 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  hey, I was the first one here to do the ... in posts...

Actually....I like the dots...
They are the punctuation of continuance....lol

I use them for pauses. I know a comma would suffice....but I just gotta be different you know.

They are longer than commas.... and more promising. There's the possibility that poetic musings might be on the way....every time you see them...like a bridge...or little stepping stones to the better parts of the human mind...lol.

Ellipses are perfectly acceptable punctuation marks. Your hatred for Pastner is the reason for your not appreciating them!

Wow...I can't believe you just threw all the other punctuation under the bus.

(01-25-2015 08:13 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 03:13 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  exactly. Identify them weaknesses and shore them up!

I love how this thread has evolved: lol.

One guard could change everything. But then the queens can't have their drama.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. This trainwreck isn't on Pastner in your mind because he doesn't have the right players on his roster? Whose responsibility is it to get the right players on the team?

It's the coach's job to get the right players. All I said was this team is 1 really good guard from being a top 25 team. Guards we hoped would get it done, haven't done so yet. They have all been given ample opportunity so don't put all of it on the coaching staff.

Hiring a guru assistant isn’t going to make Josh change his coaching philosophy. I figured out years ago Josh is a small ball coach and to this day he still is. Every season he finds some reasoning to go small and I don’t see him changing, I see him doubling down on it.

As long as he’s here I see us continuing to struggle against weak teams, losing to decent teams, and getting blown out by good teams. We don’t need a guru assistant we need a good head coach.

(01-25-2015 09:32 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Hiring a guru assistant isn’t going to make Josh change his coaching philosophy. I figured out years ago Josh is a small ball coach and to this day he still is. Every season he finds some reasoning to go small and I don’t see him changing, I see him doubling down on it.

As long as he’s here I see us continuing to struggle against weak teams, losing to decent teams, and getting blown out by good teams. We don’t need a guru assistant we need a good head coach.

(01-25-2015 09:24 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:13 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 03:13 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  exactly. Identify them weaknesses and shore them up!

I love how this thread has evolved: lol.

One guard could change everything. But then the queens can't have their drama.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. This trainwreck isn't on Pastner in your mind because he doesn't have the right players on his roster? Whose responsibility is it to get the right players on the team?

It's the coach's job to get the right players. All I said was this team is 1 really good guard from being a top 25 team. Guards we hoped would get it done, haven't done so yet. They have all been given ample opportunity so don't put all of it on the coaching staff.

If our guards suck so bad why are we continuing to play 3 of them at a time?

We are now having major problems because teams (once again) have figured out we cannot stop them from attacking the rim and getting the high percentage shot.

No 1 good guard is going to stop this and no 1 good guard is going to miraculously make us top 25.

(01-25-2015 07:57 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:39 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  I think that if the powers that be feel Pastner needs to make staff changes to better the program, that will be discussed at season's end. I would love to have a strong, experienced bench coach to help Pastner while he concentrates on the HC responsiblities of program building, recruiting, and public presence.

It's not unheard of, Cal has Robic to function as his 'brain', Jackson had Tex winters, etc, etc.

It's fine to have a bench guru. The best coaches alive had them, it's not a sign of weakness, but rather a sign of strength.

Hell in my business, I occasionally hire a very strong and experienced consultant to help with complex zoning questions. I'm damn good, but this guy has 25 years on me and I want to (a) learn from him to be even better and (b) concentrate on my strenghts to make my client's happy.

Same situation. We get better by surrounding ourselves with those that shore up our weaknesses. And it's no shame in having weaknesses. We ALL have weaknesses...

(01-25-2015 02:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  exactly. Identify them weaknesses and shore them up!

I love how this thread has evolved: lol.

(01-25-2015 03:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  I think we all know Pastner has needed a veteran assistant by his side from day one.[b] I really think this is unfortunately his Achilles heel.[/b] The best guy around is Terry Tippett, the man can flat out coach basketball and is a salty experienced vet. I'm sure there are better candidates out there at higher levels but he jumps to the forefront being from Memphis and all. I don't know. Kirk was such a great bench coach, and his teams knew every scenario they might face, and how to counter them, offensively and defensively. I look forward to seeing Daddy Lawson have a bigger impact coaching this team. 1 guard might help change things if he is a Geron Johnson type guard that could keep everyone on the same page.

That's the spirit....For some reason, there are those that fail to recognize the constructive criticism here! We want our Tigers to do well, and we don't hate Pastner, we actually want to embrace him, but obviously don't want the program run into the ground. We only loathe to see them exemplify toughness....determination.....sense of urgency.....and a sense of basketball fundamentals that give them a base/foundation of tools that will enable them to win close games....and prevent a team from making us an embarrassment from failing to apply themselves mentally or grasp the plan of action from Josh.....then execute

Go over your opening post and point out the constructive criticisms. Some people have the knack. Others don't.

(01-25-2015 09:24 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 09:06 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:55 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Actually....I like the dots...
They are the punctuation of continuance....lol

I use them for pauses. I know a comma would suffice....but I just gotta be different you know.

They are longer than commas.... and more promising. There's the possibility that poetic musings might be on the way....every time you see them...like a bridge...or little stepping stones to the better parts of the human mind...lol.

Ellipses are perfectly acceptable punctuation marks. Your hatred for Pastner is the reason for your not appreciating them!

Wow...I can't believe you just threw all the other punctuation under the bus.

After further review . . . I've decided to suspend all the others . . .

(01-25-2015 11:33 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 09:24 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 09:06 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:55 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 08:50 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  I use them for pauses. I know a comma would suffice....but I just gotta be different you know.

They are longer than commas.... and more promising. There's the possibility that poetic musings might be on the way....every time you see them...like a bridge...or little stepping stones to the better parts of the human mind...lol.

Ellipses are perfectly acceptable punctuation marks. Your hatred for Pastner is the reason for your not appreciating them!

Wow...I can't believe you just threw all the other punctuation under the bus.

After further review . . . I've decided to suspend all the others . . .

Church of anti-Punctuation??????? What are you smoking??????????

(01-25-2015 09:52 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 07:57 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:39 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  I think that if the powers that be feel Pastner needs to make staff changes to better the program, that will be discussed at season's end. I would love to have a strong, experienced bench coach to help Pastner while he concentrates on the HC responsiblities of program building, recruiting, and public presence.

It's not unheard of, Cal has Robic to function as his 'brain', Jackson had Tex winters, etc, etc.

It's fine to have a bench guru. The best coaches alive had them, it's not a sign of weakness, but rather a sign of strength.

Hell in my business, I occasionally hire a very strong and experienced consultant to help with complex zoning questions. I'm damn good, but this guy has 25 years on me and I want to (a) learn from him to be even better and (b) concentrate on my strenghts to make my client's happy.

Same situation. We get better by surrounding ourselves with those that shore up our weaknesses. And it's no shame in having weaknesses. We ALL have weaknesses...

(01-25-2015 02:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  exactly. Identify them weaknesses and shore them up!

I love how this thread has evolved: lol.

(01-25-2015 03:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  I think we all know Pastner has needed a veteran assistant by his side from day one.[b] I really think this is unfortunately his Achilles heel.[/b] The best guy around is Terry Tippett, the man can flat out coach basketball and is a salty experienced vet. I'm sure there are better candidates out there at higher levels but he jumps to the forefront being from Memphis and all. I don't know. Kirk was such a great bench coach, and his teams knew every scenario they might face, and how to counter them, offensively and defensively. I look forward to seeing Daddy Lawson have a bigger impact coaching this team. 1 guard might help change things if he is a Geron Johnson type guard that could keep everyone on the same page.

That's the spirit....For some reason, there are those that fail to recognize the constructive criticism here! We want our Tigers to do well, and we don't hate Pastner, we actually want to embrace him, but obviously don't want the program run into the ground. We only loathe to see them exemplify toughness....determination.....sense of urgency.....and a sense of basketball fundamentals that give them a base/foundation of tools that will enable them to win close games....and prevent a team from making us an embarrassment from failing to apply themselves mentally or grasp the plan of action from Josh.....then execute

Go over your opening post and point out the constructive criticisms. Some people have the knack. Others don't.

Here, as in, from the perspective that we speak on this board.....not in this particular post. This is a perspective that's not new. And some like to reiterate that the repetition of post towards our disdain of the product that we see on the court. .... my response is that most don't realize the constructive aspect that is utilized. ...as, we don't won't our team to do bad, nor do we wish that Pastner fails.....it's more that we mention certain aspects that obviously need tweaking to make an overall improvement that could yield a more favorable result for all!

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It is adorable how so many that start with vile, nasty, incendiary comments concerning the coach...get tweaked over that...suddenly make a more eloquent expression that they are simply concerned that the program overall is not progressing.

Winners.

(01-24-2015 10:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If anyone wants a laugh, do a search on this comedian's posts. He has really outdone himself this time.

You mean like the way we laugh at you?

Clown-prince from Canadia