http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23321...assive-win

... A girls high school basketball game in San Bernadino, California, that finished with a 159-point margin of victory (161-2) for Arroyo Valley High School over Bloomington High School Jan. 5 led to a two-game suspension for its coach, Michael Anderson.

He tried to slow the onslaught by benching his starters at halftime and telling his reserves to burn the shot clock before trying to score. A running clock isn't allowed until the fourth quarter under current high school rules....

... Chung still wasn't pleased with the lack of sportsmanship, though. He made his feeling crystal clear in a report from Pete Marshall of The San Bernardino County Sun.

"People shouldn't feel sorry for my team. They should feel sorry for his team, which isn't learning the game the right way," he said.

He also questioned Anderson's approach.

"I've known him for about seven years... He's a great X's and O's coach. Ethically? Not so much," he said. "He knows what he did was wrong."...

Play to win. Always.

I could understand if this was a youth league like under 10 years of age. However by high school the whole everyone gets a trophy part of your life should be over. The coach who could only muster two points should be fired for his team being crap. Winning coach shouldn't be punished.

Trophy's for everyone generation. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems the other team tried to not score in the second half.

(01-22-2015 10:19 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/23321...assive-win

... A girls high school basketball game in San Bernadino, California, that finished with a 159-point margin of victory (161-2) for Arroyo Valley High School over Bloomington High School Jan. 5 led to a two-game suspension for its coach, Michael Anderson.

He tried to slow the onslaught by benching his starters at halftime and telling his reserves to burn the shot clock before trying to score. A running clock isn't allowed until the fourth quarter under current high school rules....

... Chung still wasn't pleased with the lack of sportsmanship, though. He made his feeling crystal clear in a report from Pete Marshall of The San Bernardino County Sun.

"People shouldn't feel sorry for my team. They should feel sorry for his team, which isn't learning the game the right way," he said.

He also questioned Anderson's approach.

"I've known him for about seven years... He's a great X's and O's coach. Ethically? Not so much," he said. "He knows what he did was wrong."...

I had posted this in another thread, coming from a different source. The most amusing part is this quote:

Quote:Changes would likely have to come from the top of regional high school basketball hubs. A solution where games that are no longer competitive don't turn into these type of stories. Perhaps something along the lines of stopping scorekeeping at halftime.

Perhaps we should penalize the student who achieves a perfect 1600 on their SATs. After all, its not fair to the students who didn't study or work hard enough to succeed too.

Don't you think we should hold back the research doctor who is trying to cure certain types of cancer and is way ahead of everyone else in his/her field. That research doctor surely should have to wait for other doctors to catch up to him/her so they too can receives the accolades.

It is thinking like this that has weakened our advancement in field after field compared to other countries. It also shows why the hardest working, and fastest growing, minority in this country (Asians) are the most successful.

i was iffy about this at first but his backups were in from the beginning of the 3rd...id rather a 60 point mercey rule which ends the game ....than tell my players to let them score and not play so hard... this is how players pick up bad habits

its a sport, you're out there to compete, not to play nice, when my bench scores 80-0 on you...im sorry taking out my better players was all i could do for you

(01-22-2015 10:36 PM)DUPERGREENIE Wrote:  I could understand if this was a youth league like under 10 years of age. However by high school the whole everyone gets a trophy part of your life should be over. The coach who could only muster two points should be fired for his team being crap. Winning coach shouldn't be punished.

^ what a goon...hope that dude loses his job.

I think I read about this on the mwc board. Apparently they were still running the full court press even after being up by 100. Bad sportsmanship.

(01-22-2015 11:07 PM)canewton Wrote:  I think I read about this on the mwc board. Apparently they were still running the full court press even after being up by 100. Bad sportsmanship.

if thats how you play ..thats how you play ...id bet they run full press 100% of the time...

again the backups were in..id rather teach my guys/girls to play hard 100% all the time ...

(01-22-2015 11:07 PM)canewton Wrote:  I think I read about this on the mwc board. Apparently they were still running the full court press even after being up by 100. Bad sportsmanship.

That's a different story from my opinion. If they did that, then that is just being bullies.

(01-22-2015 10:36 PM)DUPERGREENIE Wrote:  I could understand if this was a youth league like under 10 years of age. However by high school the whole everyone gets a trophy part of your life should be over. The coach who could only muster two points should be fired for his team being crap. Winning coach shouldn't be punished.

Somewhere between the underlined and bolded comments, adult common sense should kick in and reasonable actions should occur during the game. After the game the coach of the losing team should indeed have a performance review that accurately describes his performance in this game and others.

Here is MaxPrep's page on the losing team. Huge deficits are not a new occurrence with them. That's still no excuse for an adult with any common sense or decency to put up a 159 point stomping, on a bunch of girls just because he can; but the losing coach should be given an appropriate "approval" rating.

Common sense thinking adults could have thought of a few things that would have allowed his players to still play at a reasonably challenged pace and not score 161 points.
http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/blo...l/home.htm

I think the whole thing is pathetic.
If I coached the team I wouldn't tell my girls to "slow down'' or "don't try so hard"
If they score 160+ they deserve every point.
I hate the whole running up the score sportsmanship argument.
Now if I was the coach of the team with 2 points then I'd deserve every bit of it and obviously i'd be doing something wrong.

(01-22-2015 11:54 PM)grapes Wrote:  I think the whole thing is pathetic.
If I coached the team I wouldn't tell my girls to "slow down'' or "don't try so hard"
If they score 160+ they deserve every point.
I hate the whole running up the score sportsmanship argument.
Now if I was the coach of the team with 2 points then I'd deserve every bit of it and obviously i'd be doing something wrong.

How about playing 3 on 5 and give your players a decent workout?....or a lot of other options.

Anyone using their head just a little bit can see a myriad of ways to play and not be a jerk about it.

There's a common sense area between the two that for some reason some folks just can't see.

Agree that the coach that scored 2 points needs to be doing something else.

(01-22-2015 11:35 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 11:07 PM)canewton Wrote:  I think I read about this on the mwc board. Apparently they were still running the full court press even after being up by 100. Bad sportsmanship.

That's a different story from my opinion. If they did that, then that is just being bullies.

The team ran a full court press the entire first half. That, in my opinion, is why the coach was suspended. Once the game is in hand and you know the other team cannot compete, it is time to milk the clock and work on other skills. If I remember correctly, the half time score was 100-1.

I wonder if a mercy rule is needed for high school basketball. Maybe end the game at halftime if one team is leading by 50 points or more? What do you guys think?

(01-22-2015 11:59 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 11:54 PM)grapes Wrote:  I think the whole thing is pathetic.
If I coached the team I wouldn't tell my girls to "slow down'' or "don't try so hard"
If they score 160+ they deserve every point.
I hate the whole running up the score sportsmanship argument.
Now if I was the coach of the team with 2 points then I'd deserve every bit of it and obviously i'd be doing something wrong.

How about playing 3 on 5 and give your players a decent workout?....or a lot of other options.

Anyone using their head just a little bit can see a myriad of ways to play and not be a jerk about it.

There's a common sense area between the two that for some reason some folks just can't see.

Agree that the coach that scored 2 points needs to be doing something else.

I agree with playing 3 on 5 ect. as long as they still played hard regardless of the score.

I do agree that you can easily play and not be a jerk, you can imagine with that score it would seem like he was pressuring them to rase the score.

I never think the motive should be "Hey lets blow them out as bad as we can"

But some people give the idea that if one team is playing extraordinary they should just let down and stop playing. And that irritates me.

What's he supposed to do?

(01-23-2015 12:14 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I wonder if a mercy rule is needed for high school basketball. Maybe end the game at halftime if one team is leading by 50 points or more? What do you guys think?

As long as the losing team agrees

I've coached HS basketball before. He didn't have to win by 160. I've won games by 60 that I could have easily won by 100. Its easy. I walked the ball up court and ate time off the clock. Then i set up plays for all of my worst players who never get off bench to get shots. Usually the 12th man isnt a dominant scorer or he wouldnt be the last man on the bench. Then you can ask the refs to do a running clock, and last play a soft zone and dont press. There are ways to not score 160 even if the other team is terrible. Whats the point. Once im up 30 i take foot off gas and just let the 2nd and 3rd teamers have fun.

(01-23-2015 12:02 AM)chess Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 11:35 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 11:07 PM)canewton Wrote:  I think I read about this on the mwc board. Apparently they were still running the full court press even after being up by 100. Bad sportsmanship.

That's a different story from my opinion. If they did that, then that is just being bullies.

The team ran a full court press the entire first half. That, in my opinion, is why the coach was suspended. Once the game is in hand and you know the other team cannot compete, it is time to milk the clock and work on other skills. If I remember correctly, the half time score was 100-1.

Correct. Once your up 40 points there is no reason to press. None. To do so is stupid and poor sportsmanship imo. Why. You know you are going to win. Why just try to pad stats.