SMU 23
UC 30
Tulsa 42
Temple 53
UConn 74
Memphis 91
Tulane 127
The under 200 club
UCF 201
USF 208
ECU 275
Houston 279

So winning against UCF costs Memphis

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Yes that's the problem with the 200 club. You win you drop a few, you lose you drop a lot.
It happened to Tulsa after beating USF and to SMU after beating ECU

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

RPI games AT HOME vs lower ranked teams almost always hurts against you in RPI.

However, Memphis gets to play a team on the ROAD (where you get more than double the RPI pts as you do at home) vs a team ranked 50 plus or so above you, Memphis RPI will probably go UP even with a loss, and a nice big jump up with a W.

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Hopefully this is the last year for a while being in the 200 rpi club. Really getting my hopes up for next year.

After the next two games Memphis's RPI will likely e top 50. It will drop again after playing ECU, and then rise again after playing Gonzaga. If we only lose one out of those four games, the RPI should be in the 40's, maybe upper 30's.

Memphis @ Tulsa should be interesting...big chance for Memphis to 'right the ship'

(01-18-2015 01:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Memphis @ Tulsa should be interesting...big chance for Memphis to 'right the ship'

Beat Gonzaga and things get interesting for Memphis....

Memphis cannot hang with Gonzaga - it will not be pretty

(01-18-2015 03:28 PM)gostangs Wrote:  Memphis cannot hang with Gonzaga - it will not be pretty

Agreed...but I'd love to be 14-6 (7-2 AAC) going into that game...we get an RPI boost just playing it.

(01-18-2015 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 03:28 PM)gostangs Wrote:  Memphis cannot hang with Gonzaga - it will not be pretty

Agreed...but I'd love to be 14-6 (7-2 AAC) going into that game...we get an RPI boost just playing it.

Yep, it would also keep this win streak going along with the confidence building. Do that, and the Gonzaga game gets very interesting. We have the talent to beat them, and the team finally looks like they are having fun.

Looking back at the SMU game, the interior defense was beyond bad and we suspended/kicked off several players. Personally, I think SMU will have a lot tougher time at FedEx as long as things keep improving.

(01-18-2015 07:31 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 03:28 PM)gostangs Wrote:  Memphis cannot hang with Gonzaga - it will not be pretty

Agreed...but I'd love to be 14-6 (7-2 AAC) going into that game...we get an RPI boost just playing it.

Yep, it would also keep this win streak going along with the confidence building. Do that, and the Gonzaga game gets very interesting. We have the talent to beat them, and the team finally looks like they are having fun.

Looking back at the SMU game, the interior defense was beyond bad and we suspended/kicked off several players. Personally, I think SMU will have a lot tougher time at FedEx as long as things keep improving.

They did last year as well

(01-18-2015 08:25 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 07:31 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 03:28 PM)gostangs Wrote:  Memphis cannot hang with Gonzaga - it will not be pretty

Agreed...but I'd love to be 14-6 (7-2 AAC) going into that game...we get an RPI boost just playing it.

Yep, it would also keep this win streak going along with the confidence building. Do that, and the Gonzaga game gets very interesting. We have the talent to beat them, and the team finally looks like they are having fun.

Looking back at the SMU game, the interior defense was beyond bad and we suspended/kicked off several players. Personally, I think SMU will have a lot tougher time at FedEx as long as things keep improving.

They did last year as well

Yeah, but you know Gonzaga wants to beat us. We have won a majority in this long running rivalry. We will get their best game. Bring it on, I say.

(01-18-2015 10:13 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Yes that's the problem with the 200 club. You win you drop a few, you lose you drop a lot.
It happened to Tulsa after beating USF and to SMU after beating ECU

SMU dropped 10 spots in RPI even though they won by 20. Exactly why Aresco and his crew NEED to set some scheduling rules for the programs that can't seem to help themselves.

(01-18-2015 09:25 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 10:13 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Yes that's the problem with the 200 club. You win you drop a few, you lose you drop a lot.
It happened to Tulsa after beating USF and to SMU after beating ECU

SMU dropped 10 spots in RPI even though they won by 20. Exactly why Aresco and his crew NEED to set some scheduling rules for the programs that can't seem to help themselves.

yeah this sucks

agree

BPI for whats its worth. Personally I believe this is a more realistic picture of the teams that will make the "Big Dance".

35. SMU
44. Cincy
56. Uconn
81. Memphis
91. Tulsa
106. Temple
143. Tulane
229. USF
231. UCF
246. Houston
254. East Carolina

(01-18-2015 09:25 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 10:13 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Yes that's the problem with the 200 club. You win you drop a few, you lose you drop a lot.
It happened to Tulsa after beating USF and to SMU after beating ECU

SMU dropped 10 spots in RPI even though they won by 20. Exactly why Aresco and his crew NEED to set some scheduling rules for the programs that can't seem to help themselves.

Yep, shouldn't be this way. It hurts everyone.

(01-18-2015 11:50 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  BPI for whats its worth. Personally I believe this is a more realistic picture of the teams that will make the "Big Dance".

35. SMU
44. Cincy
56. Uconn
81. Memphis
91. Tulsa
106. Temple
143. Tulane
229. USF
231. UCF
246. Houston
254. East Carolina

Tulsa would be in and uconn out right now.

(01-19-2015 12:37 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:25 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 10:13 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Yes that's the problem with the 200 club. You win you drop a few, you lose you drop a lot.
It happened to Tulsa after beating USF and to SMU after beating ECU

SMU dropped 10 spots in RPI even though they won by 20. Exactly why Aresco and his crew NEED to set some scheduling rules for the programs that can't seem to help themselves.

Yep, shouldn't be this way. It hurts everyone.

Those same bad teams in the conf wouldn't benefit much with more losses to better teams...as they W/L record would be even worse...so they would still be around 200 or higher with 3-14 records vs 7-10 records.

The goal (believe the WCC did a good job) is trying to get 75-125 rpi teams where you have a chance of WINNING, especially ON THE ROAD (where you get 1.4 times credit vs just 0.6 for home games)...vs just losing to Top 30 type teams where you wont end up with much credit for loss after loss after loss after loss.

Teams that are short-handed (UCF), rebuilding (USF), etc...knew that this year was going to be tough so nothing done to their schedule could have helped the conf this year.

Now next year, you will probably see more wins by teams like UCF and USF in non-conf play AND conf play...so others will get more credit for those games next year.

There are not many shot-cuts when you are on probation with loss of scholarships (plus using one for a redshirt from Tenn...then losing an outside shooter to ACL injury in Nov), or rebuilding like USF is doing this year...and the conf knows that.

At least UCF and USF have a "plan" to get better (just like Temple did last year using scholarships to redshirt players for the following year).

Question is...does Houston and ECU have a plan to get better? If so, what is it?

(01-19-2015 08:18 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-19-2015 12:37 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:25 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 10:13 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(01-18-2015 09:50 AM)logan5 Wrote:  So winning against UCF costs Memphis

Yes that's the problem with the 200 club. You win you drop a few, you lose you drop a lot.
It happened to Tulsa after beating USF and to SMU after beating ECU

SMU dropped 10 spots in RPI even though they won by 20. Exactly why Aresco and his crew NEED to set some scheduling rules for the programs that can't seem to help themselves.

Yep, shouldn't be this way. It hurts everyone.

Those same bad teams in the conf wouldn't benefit much with more losses to better teams...as they W/L record would be even worse...so they would still be around 200 or higher with 3-14 records vs 7-10 records.

The goal (believe the WCC did a good job) is trying to get 75-125 rpi teams where you have a chance of WINNING, especially ON THE ROAD (where you get 1.4 times credit vs just 0.6 for home games)...vs just losing to Top 30 type teams where you wont end up with much credit for loss after loss after loss after loss.

Teams that are short-handed (UCF), rebuilding (USF), etc...knew that this year was going to be tough so nothing done to their schedule could have helped the conf this year.

Now next year, you will probably see more wins by teams like UCF and USF in non-conf play AND conf play...so others will get more credit for those games next year.

There are not many shot-cuts when you are on probation with loss of scholarships (plus using one for a redshirt from Tenn...then losing an outside shooter to ACL injury in Nov), or rebuilding like USF is doing this year...and the conf knows that.

At least UCF and USF have a "plan" to get better (just like Temple did last year using scholarships to redshirt players for the following year).

Question is...does Houston and ECU have a plan to get better? If so, what is it?

Bet: UH will be a tourney team before UCF