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RE: OT // Major Shift in NFL Coaching Carousel
Raiders, Bills, Jets.....doesn't matter who's better. All 3 of us root for minor league organizations currently. At least the Bills have new ownership, so there's some hope there.
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RE: OT // Major Shift in NFL Coaching Carousel
The Bills won AFL titles in '64 & '65.
I was in Southern California the first weekend of the NFL season in 2002 and flew from Ontario to San Jose. There were several Raiders' fans with painted faces and wearing shoulder pads with spikes sticking out of them flying to the game in Oakland on Sunday AM. That's hard core.
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OT // Major Shift in NFL Coaching Carousel
(01-12-2015 04:18 PM)geezerhawkdad Wrote: The Bills won AFL titles in '64 & '65.
I was in Southern California the first weekend of the NFL season in 2002 and flew from Ontario to San Jose. There were several Raiders' fans with painted faces and wearing shoulder pads with spikes sticking out of them flying to the game in Oakland on Sunday AM. That's hard core.
I wonder if TSA confiscated their spikes?
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RE: OT // Major Shift in NFL Coaching Carousel
The spikes were cardboard with tin foil wrapped around them. They made it through security.
I was amazed that fans would pay to fly to see a team that jilted their region.
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OT // Major Shift in NFL Coaching Carousel
So it's official. Rex pushed Schwartz out of Buffalo. I couldn't be more angry with the organization right now.
Just imagine Seattle if the Jets hire Dan Quinn as their HC, and Schwartz goes to Seattle as their next DC. Hollllly smokes.
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That's why you don't hire Rex Ryan. You already had a great DC with a top-flight coordinator. Rex can't improve on that. But he CAN and WILL make your offense worse.
Even if Schwartz had hung around, that marriage would not have worked. Too big of an ego for Schwartz.
Rex is bringing along staff from a 4-12 team, including Jeff Weeks. Whose description I will leave to the author of "Collision Low Crossers":
Quote:But much of the job of coaching in the NFL took place within offices and classrooms, in meetings and on computers. Modern football coaches couldn’t have done their jobs without constant reliance on computers, which analyzed every aspect of the game for them and also served as their means for exchanging information. They used computers to break down and dissect the game film of opponents; on computers they built the game plans, and on computers they drew the opponent’s best plays after choosing them from the film breakdowns. These drawings were then printed out on cards and run live by the players in practice. Jeff Weeks did not fully understand the new programs that allowed football coaches to do all this. Perhaps he didn’t want to. He said he considered computers the “inefficient” tools of “desk coaches,” making Weeks at this point similar to a nineteenth-century textile worker railing against automated looms. Nor did he have much regard for the single-mindedness of those around him. “Football’s football,” he would say. “They’re putting people on the moon who work less than us. Guys who operate on brains work less.” More than the other coaches, Weeks explored New Jersey; he ventured into the ethnic neighborhoods of Newark and Brooklyn and even started to learn Portuguese. There were those in the organization who thought Weeks was plenty smart and more clever than most people gave him credit for. Others sympathized with him, saying that Ryan had placed Weeks in “a horrible position.” But they also said that, given the opportunity Ryan had presented to such an inexperienced professional coach, Weeks ought to be the hardest-working man in the building.
Weeks reported to Pettine. Pettine was all about winning. He thought that since so many uncontrollable variables decided whether or not a football team would be successful, it was vital to control what variables you could. Pettine believed Jeff Weeks was impeding the Jets’ chances to be successful. In midseason of 2010, Pettine wrote and distributed a ten-point memo entitled “Coach like a Jet” that detailed his expectations for defensive coaches. These included “Can grade their players bluntly and honestly based on detailed knowledge of each defensive call” and “Completes their weekly scouting report assignment and practice cards professionally and on time.” He did this because Weeks was falling short in many areas, and Pettine wanted Weeks to understand what was expected of him; he also wanted to spare Ryan what he knew would be a painful confrontation. Mostly, Weeks concentrated on keeping out of Pettine’s way, and in the daily defensive meetings led by Pettine, he refrained from saying a word.
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(01-13-2015 02:33 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: That's why you don't hire Rex Ryan. You already had a great DC with a top-flight coordinator. Rex can't improve on that. But he CAN and WILL make your offense worse.
Even if Schwartz had hung around, that marriage would not have worked. Too big of an ego for Schwartz.
Rex is bringing along staff from a 4-12 team, including Jeff Weeks. Whose description I will leave to the author of "Collision Low Crossers":
Quote:But much of the job of coaching in the NFL took place within offices and classrooms, in meetings and on computers. Modern football coaches couldn’t have done their jobs without constant reliance on computers, which analyzed every aspect of the game for them and also served as their means for exchanging information. They used computers to break down and dissect the game film of opponents; on computers they built the game plans, and on computers they drew the opponent’s best plays after choosing them from the film breakdowns. These drawings were then printed out on cards and run live by the players in practice. Jeff Weeks did not fully understand the new programs that allowed football coaches to do all this. Perhaps he didn’t want to. He said he considered computers the “inefficient” tools of “desk coaches,” making Weeks at this point similar to a nineteenth-century textile worker railing against automated looms. Nor did he have much regard for the single-mindedness of those around him. “Football’s football,” he would say. “They’re putting people on the moon who work less than us. Guys who operate on brains work less.” More than the other coaches, Weeks explored New Jersey; he ventured into the ethnic neighborhoods of Newark and Brooklyn and even started to learn Portuguese. There were those in the organization who thought Weeks was plenty smart and more clever than most people gave him credit for. Others sympathized with him, saying that Ryan had placed Weeks in “a horrible position.” But they also said that, given the opportunity Ryan had presented to such an inexperienced professional coach, Weeks ought to be the hardest-working man in the building.
Weeks reported to Pettine. Pettine was all about winning. He thought that since so many uncontrollable variables decided whether or not a football team would be successful, it was vital to control what variables you could. Pettine believed Jeff Weeks was impeding the Jets’ chances to be successful. In midseason of 2010, Pettine wrote and distributed a ten-point memo entitled “Coach like a Jet” that detailed his expectations for defensive coaches. These included “Can grade their players bluntly and honestly based on detailed knowledge of each defensive call” and “Completes their weekly scouting report assignment and practice cards professionally and on time.” He did this because Weeks was falling short in many areas, and Pettine wanted Weeks to understand what was expected of him; he also wanted to spare Ryan what he knew would be a painful confrontation. Mostly, Weeks concentrated on keeping out of Pettine’s way, and in the daily defensive meetings led by Pettine, he refrained from saying a word.
So what you are saying is the train wreck just moved north. Sweet, I'll take 2 more auto wins as a Pats fan :)
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