(12-14-2014 09:12 AM)Buho00 Wrote: Bailiff has a decent record of hiring OC's, despite the limited budget. Mensa and Beaty both highly regarded. However, those were younger up and comers compared to Edmonson. But I don't notice a big difference between what Beaty called and what Edmonson calls. Other than the game versus Marshall, the offense was not the problem this season.
1. It is a very boring, conservative and predictable offense-- not exactly the offense the is conducive to building up a fan base.
2. The offense WAS the problem in half of our games, including several of our wins (e.g., Hawaii, USM, UTSA). The offense wasn't a problem in the 2nd half against LaTech???
(12-11-2014 12:11 PM)talon owl Wrote: Tulsa reportedly will hire Baylor OC Phil Montgomery, a name I mentioned here in the dark days of 2011-2012.
Good for them. They'll probably now become more of a recruiting challenger, like SMU has.
Great hire. One reason why Briles succeeded at UH and Baylor. Will get his share of Texas recruits. Relates well with players. Not sure why we cannot get someone with a proven track record. Has Edmondson ever been an OC? If so where and what as his track record in W & L and developing players?
Yes, at Wake Forest, I believe-- and he failed miserably at it. Didn't exactly stand out as our QB coach the previous 3 years either. Why so many of us were furious with Bailiff's decision to promote him to OC (albeit oh, so very predictable).
When you pay what Rice pays, you get what Rice gets.
Sorry, but I don't buy this excuse for the promotion of Edmondson. You simply don't promote a guy who has failed in that role previously, and who did not distinguish himself in the more limited role he had at Rice. I'm sure there were plenty of interested high school coaches who would have jumped at the salary and the opportunity to move up to the college ranks.
Agree.
However, re: above, Edmondson was never a BCS OC, only at SMU and ULL for some truly bad offenses.
"The Cougars were 21-17 under Levine, including bowl appearances the past two seasons. They finished 7-5 this season and will play in the Armed Forces Bowl against Pittsburgh at Fort Worth, Texas.
But with a new on-campus stadium and a roster that seemed to be one of the most talented in the American Athletic Conference, more was expected from the Cougars."
"The Cougars were 21-17 under Levine, including bowl appearances the past two seasons. They finished 7-5 this season and will play in the Armed Forces Bowl against Pittsburgh at Fort Worth, Texas.
But with a new on-campus stadium and a roster that seemed to be one of the most talented in the American Athletic Conference, more was expected from the Cougars."
And do you feel like we're at the point where the same would be said about us from an outsider?
I think if we decided to finally put a big bunch of money behind the program, then we would be in the same conversation.
(12-17-2014 10:40 PM)I45owl Wrote: I thought Harbaugh would come cheaper after the situation in SF kind of burned down to the ground.
But Michigan is desperate, and their alums are willing to put up the cash. Harbough would be a grand slam for them-- not only a proven winning coach at both the college (turned around Stanford's fortunes in just 2 years) and NFL levels, but a Wolverine alum, to boot.
(12-17-2014 10:40 PM)I45owl Wrote: I thought Harbaugh would come cheaper after the situation in SF kind of burned down to the ground.
I think Harbaugh has plenty of options if it's true that SF is bent on letting him go. Michigan is offering pre-emptive dollars, but they would not be the only team willing to pony up for Harbaugh.
It's rumored that if Rice had an opening (which they don't), they would think long and hard about offering $850,000 per year for him.
The only way we get involved in this kind of competition is if we were fortunate enough to get out the very first offer.
As a 'Niner fan, it's hard to imagine what must have happened to have the management sour on Harbaugh so quickly. But here's a link to an interesting San Jose Mercury News article that looks at "the wake" that he generates wherever he works: http://www.mercurynews.com/mark-purdy/ci...and-how-it
Mark Purdy Wrote:... Harbaugh comes from a family of coaches, as we know. They've all been successful because they put the focus squarely on winning, period. Anything that stands in the way of winning is considered an impediment and must be eliminated. The tricky question is, who gets to decide what those impediments are?
I gained great insight into Harbaugh's professional mojo several years ago during an interview with the first person who hired him to be a head coach -- Ky Snyder, the athletic director at the University of San Diego.
Snyder loved having Harbaugh as the USD coach. Harbaugh won often, brought great spirit to the school. Harbaugh could also amuse Snyder by showing up in his office and requesting resources that USD, which competes in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision, could not provide. Snyder would tell Harbaugh no. And he would keep asking. Sometimes, Harbaugh would conclude such a discussion by saying that obviously he just needed to come up with better arguments to convince Snyder, then would be back in a while with those arguments, even as Snyder kept saying no.
"From a human standpoint, there are times when it can wear you out," Snyder told me. "But the pieces of his personality that tire you out are the same ones that make him so successful."
I also recall Snyder's cogent observation about Harbaugh: "He leaves a large wake. But it's great being on the ship."
As we all know, Harbaugh's ship soon left USD and sailed to Stanford, where he also made administrators weary with his constant entreaties about things that he perceived as impediments to victory. This included moving the team's bench to the shady side of Stanford Stadium, putting up a tarp around the practice field and modifying the traditional pregame walk through the tailgate area. These "improvements" all met initial blowback until Harbaugh nagged enough people about them. And of course, Harbaugh won many games at Stanford. So the administrators were willing to put up with Harbaugh's quirks. ...
What could Harbaugh's nagging "impediments" be with his current employers? Personnel matters. Draft choices. Game day details regarding the new Levi's Stadium logistics. The head coach's salary. Decisions about suspended players. Those are all educated guesses. In Harbaugh's mind, it's all connected to winning. His record gives him some ammunition for that view -- or has, so far.
All I know is that at some point, York and Baalke must have grown tired of the Harbaugh mojo. Perhaps a specific incident sparked it. Perhaps it was an accumulation. College administrators at USD and Stanford were more willing to ride with the Harbaugh flow. In the NFL, with so much more money and so many larger egos in play, everything gets magnified.
He's going to take it...serious money, goes back to his alma mater. Less stress...
I agree it's a slam dunk for both sides. I'm not sure "less stress" is a motivator for someone like Harbaugh. I could see him being a Walmart greeter and the place would instantly turn into a madhouse.
He's going to take it...serious money, goes back to his alma mater. Less stress...
I agree it's a slam dunk for both sides. I'm not sure "less stress" is a motivator for someone like Harbaugh. I could see him being a Walmart greeter and the place would instantly turn into a madhouse.
He's going to take it...serious money, goes back to his alma mater. Less stress...
I agree it's a slam dunk for both sides. I'm not sure "less stress" is a motivator for someone like Harbaugh. I could see him being a Walmart greeter and the place would instantly turn into a madhouse.
He's going to take it...serious money, goes back to his alma mater. Less stress...
I agree it's a slam dunk for both sides. I'm not sure "less stress" is a motivator for someone like Harbaugh. I could see him being a Walmart greeter and the place would instantly turn into a madhouse.
