You may not have any relation to CO but I do. You can only buy it in a shop. if it's a medical shop (as most are) you can't even enter it without a prescription. all the shops have very strict regulations including how many people at a time can be inside.

According to Chris Miles at PolicyMic, the state hauled in more than $10 million in taxes from retail sales in the first four months of 2014. The money, Chris says, will be spent on public schools and infrastructure, as well as educating youth about substance abuse.
http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2014/07/1...alization/

The state Department of Education's program to fund capital projects — known as Building Excellent Schools Today, or BEST, grants — had received more than $1.1 million from marijuana taxes in May when it made the annual award recommendations.

The state also is readying another $2.5 million from pot taxes so interested schools can hire health professionals.
http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_2...y-projects

you have proven time & time again to not know what you are talking about.

(12-16-2014 04:08 PM)john01992 Wrote:  You may not have any relation to CO but I do. You can only buy it in a shop. if it's a medical shop (as most are) you can't even enter it without a prescription. all the shops have very strict regulations including how many people at a time can be inside.

According to Chris Miles at PolicyMic, the state hauled in more than $10 million in taxes from retail sales in the first four months of 2014. The money, Chris says, will be spent on public schools and infrastructure, as well as educating youth about substance abuse.
http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2014/07/1...alization/

The state Department of Education's program to fund capital projects — known as Building Excellent Schools Today, or BEST, grants — had received more than $1.1 million from marijuana taxes in May when it made the annual award recommendations.

The state also is readying another $2.5 million from pot taxes so interested schools can hire health professionals.
http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_2...y-projects

you have proven time & time again to not know what you are talking about.

This doesn't even come close to what I laid out, but nice try. The state can allocate it money as it wishes at the whim of the legislature. It sounds like they are throwing it at the school systems this year.

(12-16-2014 04:14 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 04:08 PM)john01992 Wrote:  You may not have any relation to CO but I do. You can only buy it in a shop. if it's a medical shop (as most are) you can't even enter it without a prescription. all the shops have very strict regulations including how many people at a time can be inside.

According to Chris Miles at PolicyMic, the state hauled in more than $10 million in taxes from retail sales in the first four months of 2014. The money, Chris says, will be spent on public schools and infrastructure, as well as educating youth about substance abuse.
http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2014/07/1...alization/

The state Department of Education's program to fund capital projects — known as Building Excellent Schools Today, or BEST, grants — had received more than $1.1 million from marijuana taxes in May when it made the annual award recommendations.

The state also is readying another $2.5 million from pot taxes so interested schools can hire health professionals.
http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_2...y-projects

you have proven time & time again to not know what you are talking about.

This doesn't even come close to what I laid out, but nice try. The state can allocate it money as it wishes at the whim of the legislature. It sounds like they are throwing it at the school systems this year.

Is it combined with an anti-drug educational campaign? The anti-tobacco campaign in the US as been a glaring success. I have always said that I could potentially support legalization if the taxes from sales went to a similar campaign... or if it was legal in limited quantities behind the pharmacy counter (like Sudafed). I have no idea what Portugal and The Netherlands are doing. I don't feel that Colorado has taken the necessary prevention measures. I have no problem with "Decriminalization". I am talking legalization for recreational use.

Is it combined with an anti-drug educational campaign?
check

or if it was legal in limited quantities
check

behind the pharmacy counter
check

I have no idea what Portugal and The Netherlands are doing.
not suprised

I don't feel that Colorado has taken the necessary prevention measures.
because you are unaware of the measures they took. checkmate

You do this all the time ER, you link part of the information...while omitting the information that proves your claim incorrect...then proclaim yourself correct based on the selected and clearly edited information you present.

Under the marijuana tax proposal, a combined 15 percent excise and 10 percent sales tax would be imposed on recreational cannabis sales, with the first $40 million raised to fund school construction projects.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/colorado-voter...id/534786/

The only article you provided was that supports any of it is that the state is allocating a portion to substance abuse education. This was not a part of the law and none of your other "checks" are backed up by anything you provided.

(12-16-2014 04:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  You do this all the time ER, you link part of the information...while omitting the information that proves your claim incorrect...then proclaim yourself correct based on the selected and clearly edited information you present.

Under the marijuana tax proposal, a combined 15 percent excise and 10 percent sales tax would be imposed on recreational cannabis sales, with the first $40 million raised to fund school construction projects.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/colorado-voter...id/534786/

(12-16-2014 04:32 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Remember this?

(12-16-2014 04:42 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 04:32 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Remember this?

No doubt. Unfortunately, it ended somewhere around 5th grade. I think it would have been effective if it continued through high school so that questions about the misinformation spread by the John0s of the world could be addressed by professionals.

(12-16-2014 04:48 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 04:42 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 04:32 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Remember this?

No doubt. Unfortunately, it ended somewhere around 5th grade. I think it would have been effective if it continued through high school so that questions about the misinformation spread by the John0s of the world could be addressed by professionals.

misinformation = anything ER personally disagrees with. the resulting legacy of the war on drugs and weed being illegal is misinformation. everything we know about this drug says it never should of been illegal in the first place and was the result of misinformation that kept it illegal.

the tool of misinformation is very powerful. case & point you referenced DARE, a program whose approach is time & time again proven to be ineffective because its philosophy does not work. these are not small time partisan blogs that say this, but major universities, major organizations (psychology related & drug related), the surgeon general, NIH, and even the department of education.

DARE is a case of "heart in the right place" but their policy is simply put, terrible. but because they follow the republican held belief on how to combat drug use they get all the recognition, funding etc. and of course support from people like you.

According to researcher Dr. D. M. Gorman of the Rutgers University Center of Alcohol Studies, it supports the ideology and the “prevailing wisdom that exists among policy makers and politicians."[42]

"D.A.R.E. America also has been very successful in marketing its program to the news media through a carefully orchestrated public relations campaign that highlights its popularity while downplaying criticism."[28]

Psychologists at the University of Kentucky concluded that "continued enthusiasm [for D.A.R.E.] shows Americans' stubborn resistance to apply science to drug policy.

(12-16-2014 01:35 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:37 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I'm putting this in the same category as more illegals will increase wages, higher minimum wages will create jobs, and so on.

so the "it's BS because I don't want to believe it due to my political ideology" category?

It's BS because it doesn't make sense. What was the point of legalizing something if less people use it? How does making something legal and easier to get drop usage?

May want to read up on the success Portugal has had decriminalizing all drugs.

Generally the idea is that by legalizing drugs, it actually becomes harder for people under the legal age to buy drugs because their suppliers go out of business, or they become legit sellers. People who buy pot want to do so legally, so they will quickly move from buying via an illegal method to a legal method. You quickly stop having so many dealers selling without a license, so the only viable place underage teens can go are dispensaries, and they won't sell to them for fear of losing their license (just like a liquor store). Prior to legalization dealer's were worried they would get busted during any drug deal, not just ones for people who were underage, so they were willing to take the risk with anyone. Now, if they go about this legally, they can sell to anyone of age and very easily say no thanks to those who are underage. Also, police should be able to focus more specifically on selling/distributing to underage teens, rather than the population as a whole.

I equate this with the prohibition of alcohol. If alcohol was illegal for everyone, you would have a large black market that had the same barriers to entry for a 50 year old as a 13 year old, and you would basically be relying on the morality of someone breaking the law to not sell to someone they thought was too young to consume.

This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.

Anyone that advocates that children should be protected from drugs should understand that our current black market system puts children in MORE risk. Legalizing and controlling these substances removes them from the mainstream black market and protects kids from access to these substances. As it stands now...Our children are targets of the black market.

Im not sure these studies are fully accurate or any real conclusions at this point can be reached. We are just in the infancy of legalization. I expect as more data comes in we will have a better idea of what impact legalization has had.

(12-16-2014 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:35 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:37 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I'm putting this in the same category as more illegals will increase wages, higher minimum wages will create jobs, and so on.

so the "it's BS because I don't want to believe it due to my political ideology" category?

It's BS because it doesn't make sense. What was the point of legalizing something if less people use it? How does making something legal and easier to get drop usage?

May want to read up on the success Portugal has had decriminalizing all drugs.

Generally the idea is that by legalizing drugs, it actually becomes harder for people under the legal age to buy drugs because their suppliers go out of business, or they become legit sellers. People who buy pot want to do so legally, so they will quickly move from buying via an illegal method to a legal method. You quickly stop having so many dealers selling without a license, so the only viable place underage teens can go are dispensaries, and they won't sell to them for fear of losing their license (just like a liquor store). Prior to legalization dealer's were worried they would get busted during any drug deal, not just ones for people who were underage, so they were willing to take the risk with anyone. Now, if they go about this legally, they can sell to anyone of age and very easily say no thanks to those who are underage. Also, police should be able to focus more specifically on selling/distributing to underage teens, rather than the population as a whole.

I equate this with the prohibition of alcohol. If alcohol was illegal for everyone, you would have a large black market that had the same barriers to entry for a 50 year old as a 13 year old, and you would basically be relying on the morality of someone breaking the law to not sell to someone they thought was too young to consume.

This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.

Anyone that advocates that children should be protected from drugs should understand that our current black market system puts children in MORE risk. Legalizing and controlling these substances removes them from the mainstream black market and protects kids from access to these substances. As it stands now...Our children are targets of the black market.

Im not sure these studies are fully accurate or any real conclusions at this point can be reached. We are just in the infancy of legalization. I expect as more data comes in we will have a better idea of what impact legalization has had.

when I was in high school weed was easier to get ahold of than beer. I don't think there is anything else that needs to be said.

(12-16-2014 08:48 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:35 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  so the "it's BS because I don't want to believe it due to my political ideology" category?

It's BS because it doesn't make sense. What was the point of legalizing something if less people use it? How does making something legal and easier to get drop usage?

May want to read up on the success Portugal has had decriminalizing all drugs.

Generally the idea is that by legalizing drugs, it actually becomes harder for people under the legal age to buy drugs because their suppliers go out of business, or they become legit sellers. People who buy pot want to do so legally, so they will quickly move from buying via an illegal method to a legal method. You quickly stop having so many dealers selling without a license, so the only viable place underage teens can go are dispensaries, and they won't sell to them for fear of losing their license (just like a liquor store). Prior to legalization dealer's were worried they would get busted during any drug deal, not just ones for people who were underage, so they were willing to take the risk with anyone. Now, if they go about this legally, they can sell to anyone of age and very easily say no thanks to those who are underage. Also, police should be able to focus more specifically on selling/distributing to underage teens, rather than the population as a whole.

I equate this with the prohibition of alcohol. If alcohol was illegal for everyone, you would have a large black market that had the same barriers to entry for a 50 year old as a 13 year old, and you would basically be relying on the morality of someone breaking the law to not sell to someone they thought was too young to consume.

This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.

Anyone that advocates that children should be protected from drugs should understand that our current black market system puts children in MORE risk. Legalizing and controlling these substances removes them from the mainstream black market and protects kids from access to these substances. As it stands now...Our children are targets of the black market.

Im not sure these studies are fully accurate or any real conclusions at this point can be reached. We are just in the infancy of legalization. I expect as more data comes in we will have a better idea of what impact legalization has had.

when I was in high school weed was easier to get ahold of than beer. I don't think there is anything else that needs to be said.

Of course it was..and still is. I think the "smoking" aspect is something that may have an impact on reduction of teen usage. Smoking is now seen as "nasty" among young people. That may be having some crossover impact in the reduction of Cannabis use.

I can say freely...I was a heavy Cannabis smokers in my late teen and college years. It has been over 30 years since I have partaken of the substance...mostly because of the threat of violence that would have been against me for doing so. I also pledged to my employer that I would not use any illegal drugs. If legal in my state?...I would again partake. I would however NOT smoke. I always despised that method of use..simply because of its nasty nature. I would use a more healthy method of use now....either edibles or vaporization.

(12-16-2014 09:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:48 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:35 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  It's BS because it doesn't make sense. What was the point of legalizing something if less people use it? How does making something legal and easier to get drop usage?

May want to read up on the success Portugal has had decriminalizing all drugs.

Generally the idea is that by legalizing drugs, it actually becomes harder for people under the legal age to buy drugs because their suppliers go out of business, or they become legit sellers. People who buy pot want to do so legally, so they will quickly move from buying via an illegal method to a legal method. You quickly stop having so many dealers selling without a license, so the only viable place underage teens can go are dispensaries, and they won't sell to them for fear of losing their license (just like a liquor store). Prior to legalization dealer's were worried they would get busted during any drug deal, not just ones for people who were underage, so they were willing to take the risk with anyone. Now, if they go about this legally, they can sell to anyone of age and very easily say no thanks to those who are underage. Also, police should be able to focus more specifically on selling/distributing to underage teens, rather than the population as a whole.

I equate this with the prohibition of alcohol. If alcohol was illegal for everyone, you would have a large black market that had the same barriers to entry for a 50 year old as a 13 year old, and you would basically be relying on the morality of someone breaking the law to not sell to someone they thought was too young to consume.

This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.

Anyone that advocates that children should be protected from drugs should understand that our current black market system puts children in MORE risk. Legalizing and controlling these substances removes them from the mainstream black market and protects kids from access to these substances. As it stands now...Our children are targets of the black market.

Im not sure these studies are fully accurate or any real conclusions at this point can be reached. We are just in the infancy of legalization. I expect as more data comes in we will have a better idea of what impact legalization has had.

when I was in high school weed was easier to get ahold of than beer. I don't think there is anything else that needs to be said.

Of course it was..and still is. I think the "smoking" aspect is something that may have an impact on reduction of teen usage. Smoking is now seen as "nasty" among young people. That may be having some crossover impact in the reduction of Cannabis use.

I can say freely...I was a heavy Cannabis smokers in my late teen and college years. It has been over 30 years since I have partaken of the substance...mostly because of the threat of violence that would have been against me for doing so. I also pledged to my employer that I would not use any illegal drugs. If legal in my state?...I would again partake. I would however NOT smoke. I always despised that method of use..simply because of its nasty nature. I would use a more healthy method of use now....either edibles or vaporization.

as a member of that generation I don't think there is any crossover. Weed doesn't have the reputation of having corporate manufactures putting in 1000s of chemicals or the stink that sticks to you.

yes our generation is more focused on health than ever before but I don't think its cause of less weed consumption.

It is my understanding that Hookah is actually the worst kind of smoke to inhale from a health standpoint. Hookah is seeing dramatic increases in consumption and is especially popular among college students.

that kinda kills your point. But imo the general perception is that cigs are worse than weed, which is worse than hookah when it's actually the complete opposite of that.

on the flip side vapping & E-cigs are also exploding

(12-16-2014 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:48 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:35 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  May want to read up on the success Portugal has had decriminalizing all drugs.

Generally the idea is that by legalizing drugs, it actually becomes harder for people under the legal age to buy drugs because their suppliers go out of business, or they become legit sellers. People who buy pot want to do so legally, so they will quickly move from buying via an illegal method to a legal method. You quickly stop having so many dealers selling without a license, so the only viable place underage teens can go are dispensaries, and they won't sell to them for fear of losing their license (just like a liquor store). Prior to legalization dealer's were worried they would get busted during any drug deal, not just ones for people who were underage, so they were willing to take the risk with anyone. Now, if they go about this legally, they can sell to anyone of age and very easily say no thanks to those who are underage. Also, police should be able to focus more specifically on selling/distributing to underage teens, rather than the population as a whole.

I equate this with the prohibition of alcohol. If alcohol was illegal for everyone, you would have a large black market that had the same barriers to entry for a 50 year old as a 13 year old, and you would basically be relying on the morality of someone breaking the law to not sell to someone they thought was too young to consume.

This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.

Anyone that advocates that children should be protected from drugs should understand that our current black market system puts children in MORE risk. Legalizing and controlling these substances removes them from the mainstream black market and protects kids from access to these substances. As it stands now...Our children are targets of the black market.

Im not sure these studies are fully accurate or any real conclusions at this point can be reached. We are just in the infancy of legalization. I expect as more data comes in we will have a better idea of what impact legalization has had.

when I was in high school weed was easier to get ahold of than beer. I don't think there is anything else that needs to be said.

Of course it was..and still is. I think the "smoking" aspect is something that may have an impact on reduction of teen usage. Smoking is now seen as "nasty" among young people. That may be having some crossover impact in the reduction of Cannabis use.

I can say freely...I was a heavy Cannabis smokers in my late teen and college years. It has been over 30 years since I have partaken of the substance...mostly because of the threat of violence that would have been against me for doing so. I also pledged to my employer that I would not use any illegal drugs. If legal in my state?...I would again partake. I would however NOT smoke. I always despised that method of use..simply because of its nasty nature. I would use a more healthy method of use now....either edibles or vaporization.

as a member of that generation I don't think there is any crossover. Weed doesn't have the reputation of having corporate manufactures putting in 1000s of chemicals or the stink that sticks to you.

yes our generation is more focused on health than ever before but I don't think its cause of less weed consumption.

It is my understanding that Hookah is actually the worst kind of smoke to inhale from a health standpoint. Hookah is seeing dramatic increases in consumption and is especially popular among college students.

that kinda kills your point. But imo the general perception is that cigs are worse than weed, which is worse than hookah when it's actually the complete opposite of that.

on the flip side vapping & E-cigs are also exploding

My daughter told me she went to a Hookah bar in Greenville when she was at ECU. She said it creeped her out. Ill defer to your input on this. It does seem however that the vaporization aspect of this is a good thing. We had an old bong that make you cough and hack out a lung. It is my understanding that vapping is much easier on your respiratory sytem.

(12-16-2014 09:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:48 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.

Anyone that advocates that children should be protected from drugs should understand that our current black market system puts children in MORE risk. Legalizing and controlling these substances removes them from the mainstream black market and protects kids from access to these substances. As it stands now...Our children are targets of the black market.

Im not sure these studies are fully accurate or any real conclusions at this point can be reached. We are just in the infancy of legalization. I expect as more data comes in we will have a better idea of what impact legalization has had.

when I was in high school weed was easier to get ahold of than beer. I don't think there is anything else that needs to be said.

Of course it was..and still is. I think the "smoking" aspect is something that may have an impact on reduction of teen usage. Smoking is now seen as "nasty" among young people. That may be having some crossover impact in the reduction of Cannabis use.

I can say freely...I was a heavy Cannabis smokers in my late teen and college years. It has been over 30 years since I have partaken of the substance...mostly because of the threat of violence that would have been against me for doing so. I also pledged to my employer that I would not use any illegal drugs. If legal in my state?...I would again partake. I would however NOT smoke. I always despised that method of use..simply because of its nasty nature. I would use a more healthy method of use now....either edibles or vaporization.

as a member of that generation I don't think there is any crossover. Weed doesn't have the reputation of having corporate manufactures putting in 1000s of chemicals or the stink that sticks to you.

yes our generation is more focused on health than ever before but I don't think its cause of less weed consumption.

It is my understanding that Hookah is actually the worst kind of smoke to inhale from a health standpoint. Hookah is seeing dramatic increases in consumption and is especially popular among college students.

that kinda kills your point. But imo the general perception is that cigs are worse than weed, which is worse than hookah when it's actually the complete opposite of that.

on the flip side vapping & E-cigs are also exploding

My daughter told me she went to a Hookah bar in Greenville when she was at ECU. She said it creeped her out. Ill defer to your input on this. It does seem however that the vaporization aspect of this is a good thing. We had an old bong that make you cough and hack out a lung. It is my understanding that vapping is much easier on your respiratory sytem.

ah a Hookah bar...that explains it. never been to one but from what I hear those are really really shady places. Hookah gets most of its popularity in private housing. it usually gets brought out when a couple of people are over looking for something to do besides drinking.

vapping & E-Cigs are supposedly better health wise, I think the positive is that it is a better alternative. The negative is that it would attract more tobacco users to the product who normally would never have picked up the habit at all. not vapping at all > vapping. its the dilemma of do you want less people smoking, but more people using tobacco products or vice versa. I'm not sure if we can say for sure which is better. the general feedback on vapping is that it ruins the experience and only amateurs do it for weed. whether it's justified or not that's the reputation it has.

Vapping cigs does not have a negative rep but that's due to marketing on behalf of the corporations that make them. people are starting to pull them out in bars, movie theaters, and even saw one guy do it in a classroom. that's my one big pet peeve about them, people are forgetting that they are not immune to the same anti-smoking signs that traditional cigs have to abide by.

(12-16-2014 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.


as a member of that generation I don't think there is any crossover. Weed doesn't have the reputation of having corporate manufactures putting in 1000s of chemicals or the stink that sticks to you.

yes our generation is more focused on health than ever before but I don't think its cause of less weed consumption.

It is my understanding that Hookah is actually the worst kind of smoke to inhale from a health standpoint. Hookah is seeing dramatic increases in consumption and is especially popular among college students.

that kinda kills your point. But imo the general perception is that cigs are worse than weed, which is worse than hookah when it's actually the complete opposite of that.

on the flip side vapping & E-cigs are also exploding

Kinda hard to say your generation is more health conscious when tobacco sales are going through the roof. Again, I would love to know the people were capable of using drugs in moderation. But at least 12% of the population have addictive traits. I always felt the drug war should have been over when kids were huffing in the 80's, to say nothing of the explosion of meth later on.

(12-17-2014 08:23 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.


as a member of that generation I don't think there is any crossover. Weed doesn't have the reputation of having corporate manufactures putting in 1000s of chemicals or the stink that sticks to you.

yes our generation is more focused on health than ever before but I don't think its cause of less weed consumption.

It is my understanding that Hookah is actually the worst kind of smoke to inhale from a health standpoint. Hookah is seeing dramatic increases in consumption and is especially popular among college students.

that kinda kills your point. But imo the general perception is that cigs are worse than weed, which is worse than hookah when it's actually the complete opposite of that.

on the flip side vapping & E-cigs are also exploding

Kinda hard to say your generation is more health conscious when tobacco sales are going through the roof. Again, I would love to know the people were capable of using drugs in moderation. But at least 12% of the population have addictive traits. I always felt the drug war should have been over when kids were huffing in the 80's, to say nothing of the explosion of meth later on.

There aren't many. Out of all the pot heads I grew up with in high school, maybe one or two that still use didn't turn out to be a total loser. There is a very small percentage that can use on a regular basis and still be productive, and it probably has a different effect and psychological outcome on those. The losers then point to those to justify their own continued use.

"Hey, Johnny smokes everyday and he is a successful lawyer. It can't be that bad."

Meanwhile, the above guy can't muster the motivation or energy to get out of the house all day.

people don't need rehab for smoking pot

(12-17-2014 08:23 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  This.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" aspect of this. Once something is legal it is not as glamorous as it once was.


as a member of that generation I don't think there is any crossover. Weed doesn't have the reputation of having corporate manufactures putting in 1000s of chemicals or the stink that sticks to you.

yes our generation is more focused on health than ever before but I don't think its cause of less weed consumption.

It is my understanding that Hookah is actually the worst kind of smoke to inhale from a health standpoint. Hookah is seeing dramatic increases in consumption and is especially popular among college students.

that kinda kills your point. But imo the general perception is that cigs are worse than weed, which is worse than hookah when it's actually the complete opposite of that.

on the flip side vapping & E-cigs are also exploding

Kinda hard to say your generation is more health conscious when tobacco sales are going through the roof. Again, I would love to know the people were capable of using drugs in moderation. But at least 12% of the population have addictive traits. I always felt the drug war should have been over when kids were huffing in the 80's, to say nothing of the explosion of meth later on.

in terms of working out ==> our generation does that like none other before.

In terms of health habits ==> again healthy food choices/options are unlike previous generations

even though we are seeing an increase in E-Cigs there has been a longstanding major decrease in cigarettes long before that. They at least half of what they were for previous generations. you are talking about one small increase in a tiny sector of an industry that is overall going down.

and again smokeless products > smoke products and a big reason why the E-Cigs are growing is because it is a very new product that opposition forces haven't had a real chance to fight.

(12-17-2014 09:12 AM)Lush Wrote:  people don't need rehab for smoking pot

some do. granted its a smaller % than other drugs, but that's a major myth that needs to die.