(12-15-2014 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  These are the official NCAA figures so please no griping about butts in seats and the like, with change from last year:

1) ECU .............44,786 ...... +2%
2) UCF .............37,812 ......-10%
3) Memphis ......33,851.......+19%
4) USF ..............30,694.......-12%
5) Cincy ............28,840........-9%
6) Houston .......28,311.......+17%
7) UConn ..........27,461........-11%
8) Tulane ..........25,012.......+27%
9) Temple..........23,370.........+4%
10) SMU ...........21,528.......+15%
11) Tulsa ..........19,647..........-1%

We reallly neeed the WHOLE conference averaging NORTH of 30k.

Excuse making time for UC. Playing at PBS hurt student attendance - especially in the last few games.

I really believe UC would have averaged over 30,000 if they had played at Nippert this year.

Scheduling will always play factor (weekend vs week night) but next year could be a very good year for the conference. Tulsa, SMU, and Houston will be buoyed by exciting new coaches. Temple has some big home games. Cincy moves back home.

(12-16-2014 09:44 AM)Juan Tibonya Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Now really, you can't taint this response as troll action here just because USF has a very bad reputation for fudging the numbers. 2013 USF lies even worse

To even attempt to claim attendance in the 30,000 has to be the biggest joke going. the reason why you "were waiting for it" is because it is a laughable as it gets.

It is troll action because everyone and their mother on this board is well aware that USF counts tickets distributed as many other schools do. This has been discussed ad nauseum every attendance thread. Yet its like a knee jerk reaction for some in your fan base that only have issues with USF numbers.
Notice how the only ones to jump on it are ucf fans

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Tell you what- present the numbers with an * and we'll shut up about it.

(12-16-2014 10:39 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Excuse making time for UC. Playing at PBS hurt student attendance - especially in the last few games.

I really believe UC would have averaged over 30,000 if they had played at Nippert this year.

Y'know what though, our attendance took a HUGE hit last year cause we kept playing at random places around the city. I don't necessarily think it's an excuse. It's a big factor for fans.

37K was pretty good considering our home schedule.

No offense to these teams, but it was tough hosting Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, and SMU after hosting Houston, USF, Rutgers, and UConn last year in conference. Noon games didn't help either.

OOC was USC and Akron last year; BYU and BCC this year.

We'll be back to 42-44K next year with an improved schedule.

(12-16-2014 12:55 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 10:39 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Excuse making time for UC. Playing at PBS hurt student attendance - especially in the last few games.

I really believe UC would have averaged over 30,000 if they had played at Nippert this year.

Y'know what though, our attendance took a HUGE hit last year cause we kept playing at random places around the city. I don't necessarily think it's an excuse. It's a big factor for fans.

Cincinnati is a bizarre place. Some did not attend PBS, because it was PBS. Some did not attend PBS, since Mike Brown is the face of that stadium. Some that attended PBS this year will not set foot in Clifton. UC fans missed a huge opportunity to have huge attendance numbers this year. With that said, I do expect average attendance to be around 90%+ capacity next year.

(12-16-2014 12:48 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Tell you what- present the numbers with an * and we'll shut up about it.

Tell you what when ALL the schools that count distributed tickets as their attendance do that then Ill do that.
and you wont shut up about it because you and a few others have a fixation on anything USF related, so if it wasn't attendance it will be something else.
Find a thread on USF and I can find you posting on it.

(12-16-2014 01:48 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:48 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Tell you what- present the numbers with an * and we'll shut up about it.

Tell you what when ALL the schools that count distributed tickets as their attendance do that then Ill do that.
and you wont shut up about it because you and a few others have a fixation on anything USF related, so if it wasn't attendance it will be something else.
Find a thread on USF and I can find you posting on it.

Yea, all schools do it, USF simply does it to a degree that most don't.

For God's sakes, you reported a 30K average when MULTIPLE games had less than 19,000 fans actually in the stadium.

(12-16-2014 01:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 01:48 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:48 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Tell you what- present the numbers with an * and we'll shut up about it.

Tell you what when ALL the schools that count distributed tickets as their attendance do that then Ill do that.
and you wont shut up about it because you and a few others have a fixation on anything USF related, so if it wasn't attendance it will be something else.
Find a thread on USF and I can find you posting on it.

Yea, all schools do it, USF simply does it to a degree that most don't.

For God's sakes, you reported a 30K average when MULTIPLE games had less than 19,000 fans actually in the stadium.

and that matters to you because?
Everyone on this board is well awared on how USF announces its numbers and its actual attendance, which is why you don't see anyone else posting about it, except you and another fellow ucfer

(12-16-2014 12:22 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:44 AM)Juan Tibonya Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Now really, you can't taint this response as troll action here just because USF has a very bad reputation for fudging the numbers. 2013 USF lies even worse

To even attempt to claim attendance in the 30,000 has to be the biggest joke going. the reason why you "were waiting for it" is because it is a laughable as it gets.

It is troll action because everyone and their mother on this board is well aware that USF counts tickets distributed as many other schools do. This has been discussed ad nauseum every attendance thread. Yet its like a knee jerk reaction for some in your fan base that only have issues with USF numbers.
Notice how the only ones to jump on it are ucf fans

Is it important to have folks in the stands when your program plays? Absolutely

Is it also important to revenue from those tickets used to attend games? Absolutely

Ticket revenue doesn't seem to be an issue for the program that always carries the brunt this criticism, but getting people in the seats is. All of us face problems on the field, on the court, at the gate, or from a myriad of other sources; if we didn't we'd be in a P5 conference. Don't some folks have more interesting things to discuss than shortcomings of everyone else's program, fan base, etc?

Derive for yourself what the below numbers mean, they were taken from the same data that was referenced in the below thread and have been referenced on this and previous boards that many of us have been a member of for a decade or so:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-687551-post-115...id11548401

Ticket Revenue 2013:
UCF $3,939,506
Cincinnati $7,416,843
UConn $8,889,522
ECU $6,859,822
Houston $3,812,821
Memphis $8,299,006
South Florida $6,888,742

(12-16-2014 02:07 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:22 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:44 AM)Juan Tibonya Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Now really, you can't taint this response as troll action here just because USF has a very bad reputation for fudging the numbers. 2013 USF lies even worse

To even attempt to claim attendance in the 30,000 has to be the biggest joke going. the reason why you "were waiting for it" is because it is a laughable as it gets.

It is troll action because everyone and their mother on this board is well aware that USF counts tickets distributed as many other schools do. This has been discussed ad nauseum every attendance thread. Yet its like a knee jerk reaction for some in your fan base that only have issues with USF numbers.
Notice how the only ones to jump on it are ucf fans

Is it important to have folks in the stands when your program plays? Absolutely

Is it also important to revenue from those tickets used to attend games? Absolutely

Ticket revenue doesn't seem to be an issue for the program that always carries the brunt this criticism, but getting people in the seats is. All of us face problems on the field, on the court, at the gate, or from a myriad of other sources; if we didn't we'd be in a P5 conference. Don't some folks have more interesting things to discuss than shortcomings of everyone else's program, fan base, etc?

Derive for yourself what the below numbers mean, they were taken from the same data that was referenced in the below thread and have been referenced on this and previous boards that many of us have been a member of for a decade or so:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-687551-post-115...id11548401

UCF $3,939,506
Cincinnati $7,416,843
UConn $8,889,522
ECU $6,859,822
Houston $3,812,821
Memphis $8,299,006
South Florida $6,888,742

well said

(12-16-2014 07:40 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:51 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Cincinnati's attendance was killed by several factors:

1) Conference Realignment
2) playing at PBS
3) Some of the coldest weather I can recall in a while (the weather for the ECU game was in the teens but felt like zero).
4) Poor start

With Nippert reopening, and a decent start, next year you should draw far better. Any number yet on season ticket renewals, pledges, etc., for the new stadium?

Unofficially? UC is expecting 90% renewal off season tickets from this year (14kish). All but 200 of the ~2k luxury seats are sold for all of next season. UC is expecting a lot of people who didn't renew due to PBS to be back from next year. Estimating 18k-21k of season tickets. Hard to predict the new ticket holders rate because of the brand new reopening.

You didn't hear it from me.

(12-16-2014 10:39 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Excuse making time for UC. Playing at PBS hurt student attendance - especially in the last few games.

An excuse, yes. But still true.

Quote:I really believe UC would have averaged over 30,000 if they had played at Nippert this year.

What will Nippert's new capacity be?

If UH doesn't lay an egg against UTSA, I believe our attendance would have averaged at least 5000 more butts in the stadium per game and with our creative counting methods about an extra 7000 on our attendance numbers per game.

(12-16-2014 03:57 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 10:39 AM)bearcatfan Wrote:  Excuse making time for UC. Playing at PBS hurt student attendance - especially in the last few games.

An excuse, yes. But still true.

Quote:I really believe UC would have averaged over 30,000 if they had played at Nippert this year.

What will Nippert's new capacity be?

New capacity is stated at 40,000 which probably includes standing room. I have the Bearcats at an average of 36,670 fans back on campus based on the following projection:

Bama A&M31,500
Miami, FL 40,000
Temple 36,500
Uconn 36,500
UCF 39,500
SMU 36,500

(12-16-2014 02:07 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:22 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 09:44 AM)Juan Tibonya Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Now really, you can't taint this response as troll action here just because USF has a very bad reputation for fudging the numbers. 2013 USF lies even worse

To even attempt to claim attendance in the 30,000 has to be the biggest joke going. the reason why you "were waiting for it" is because it is a laughable as it gets.

It is troll action because everyone and their mother on this board is well aware that USF counts tickets distributed as many other schools do. This has been discussed ad nauseum every attendance thread. Yet its like a knee jerk reaction for some in your fan base that only have issues with USF numbers.
Notice how the only ones to jump on it are ucf fans

Is it important to have folks in the stands when your program plays? Absolutely

Is it also important to revenue from those tickets used to attend games? Absolutely

Ticket revenue doesn't seem to be an issue for the program that always carries the brunt this criticism, but getting people in the seats is. All of us face problems on the field, on the court, at the gate, or from a myriad of other sources; if we didn't we'd be in a P5 conference. Don't some folks have more interesting things to discuss than shortcomings of everyone else's program, fan base, etc?

Derive for yourself what the below numbers mean, they were taken from the same data that was referenced in the below thread and have been referenced on this and previous boards that many of us have been a member of for a decade or so:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-687551-post-115...id11548401

Ticket Revenue 2013:
UCF $3,939,506
Cincinnati $7,416,843
UConn $8,889,522
ECU $6,859,822
Houston $3,812,821
Memphis $8,299,006
South Florida $6,888,742

I'll bet ucf doesn't count booster fees and other income while others do. Ucf charges a booster fee for all seats nearly to endzone seats. Doesn't make sense we are under others especially having better attendance than most.

(12-16-2014 12:48 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 05:50 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 10:40 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those USF numbers are totally real and believable.

There we go one fish took the bait

Tell you what- present the numbers with an * and we'll shut up about it.

Jesus Christ, you UCF fans are annoying. They are the reported numbers, get over it. Hyperventilate over everything USF.