(12-03-2014 10:32 PM)beachboy Wrote:  2-3 in MACC. 2005, lost to Akron. 2010, lost to Miami. 2011, beat Ohio. 2012, beat Kent State. 2013, lost to Bowling Green. 2014 ...

He means, they've won 2 out of 5.

Other than last year's *ss-whooping...have the other 4 come down to basically the last play (or a TD in the last minute)? Akron, they score in the last minute to take the lead, Miami same thing, Ohio-figgy to win it, Kent State- pick in OT.

That's kind of insane. Our poor hearts.

Quote:Or do you hope you just jinxed it?

NO. I'd be fvcking pissed if BGSU won. Real Pissed.

(12-04-2014 12:29 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  Other than last year's *ss-whooping...have the other 4 come down to basically the last play (or a TD in the last minute)? Akron, they score in the last minute to take the lead, Miami same thing, Ohio-figgy to win it, Kent State- pick in OT.

That's kind of insane. Our poor hearts.

As it should be.

(12-01-2014 08:59 PM)scottiep12 Wrote:  There is a weird irony in this one...I have lower expectations of this team vs any previous version of the Huskies in Detroit yet I couldn't be more confident that we will win.

I haven't bet on a game after the 2010 debacle...until now. So we are probably doomed.

Seriously tho...it's less about us vs having no confidence in BG. They just aren't that good. Plus add in the revenge factor and this team's moxy and I don't even think a letdown is an option.

I agree with everything your wrote. My fear, however, is Coach Carey has yet to prove he and his staff can properly prepare the team to win a big game. Orange Bowl, MACC, Poinsettia Bowl, Arkansas game.

(12-04-2014 03:12 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:59 PM)scottiep12 Wrote:  There is a weird irony in this one...I have lower expectations of this team vs any previous version of the Huskies in Detroit yet I couldn't be more confident that we will win.

I haven't bet on a game after the 2010 debacle...until now. So we are probably doomed.

Seriously tho...it's less about us vs having no confidence in BG. They just aren't that good. Plus add in the revenge factor and this team's moxy and I don't even think a letdown is an option.

I agree with everything your wrote. My fear, however, is Coach Carey has yet to prove he and his staff can properly prepare the team to win a big game. Orange Bowl, MACC, Poinsettia Bowl, Arkansas game.

Love how your list of big games conveniently includes only losses. Completely bypassing Iowa, 2 Toledo games, WMU, and Northwestern and including that exhibition game in San Diego.

Well done. Way to make your reality fit your narrative.

(12-04-2014 08:17 AM)DogTracks Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 03:12 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:59 PM)scottiep12 Wrote:  There is a weird irony in this one...I have lower expectations of this team vs any previous version of the Huskies in Detroit yet I couldn't be more confident that we will win.

I haven't bet on a game after the 2010 debacle...until now. So we are probably doomed.

Seriously tho...it's less about us vs having no confidence in BG. They just aren't that good. Plus add in the revenge factor and this team's moxy and I don't even think a letdown is an option.

I agree with everything your wrote. My fear, however, is Coach Carey has yet to prove he and his staff can properly prepare the team to win a big game. Orange Bowl, MACC, Poinsettia Bowl, Arkansas game.

Love how your list of big games conveniently includes only losses. Completely bypassing Iowa, 2 Toledo games, WMU, and Northwestern and including that exhibition game in San Diego.

Well done. Way to make your reality fit your narrative.

Orange Bowl was clearly coaching as well. MAC team going up against a Florida State team who is undefeated since that game was played.

I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

(12-04-2014 09:07 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

Well there's no right or wrong answer and it can be debated, I shouldn't have used fact but it doesn't make me incorrect. You're not right because you say you are. Sorry to break it to you.

(12-04-2014 09:07 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

I would put the Iowa game in the top 3, easily. That game meant a lot to our program

(12-04-2014 09:15 AM)JB04 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:07 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

I would put the Iowa game in the top 3, easily. That game meant a lot to our program

I'd say the importance is magnified for that game because we won. If we beat Arkansas it would also be a really big moment and people would vault that to near the top of the list as a "big game".

Under most circumstances I personally would have bowl games at the top with conference championship games also right up there. They hold more significance to me than regular games.

(12-04-2014 09:15 AM)JB04 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:07 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

I would put the Iowa game in the top 3, easily. That game meant a lot to our program

Absolutely.

(12-03-2014 11:40 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 10:32 PM)beachboy Wrote:  2-3 in MACC. 2005, lost to Akron. 2010, lost to Miami. 2011, beat Ohio. 2012, beat Kent State. 2013, lost to Bowling Green. 2014 ...

He means, they've won 2 out of 5.

Thank you. I need to quit posting before bed time.

(12-04-2014 09:07 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

Carey is 0-3 in the post season, but that includes the Orange Bowl, which would have been a historical upset had the Huskies won.

But every game since the CMU loss has been do or die, and the Huskies are still very much alive.

Carey is also 3-0 vs the Big Ten-or-so, and how many coaches in the history of the MAC have done that? Those games were pretty big.

So looking at just Carey's post season record is like looking at an NFL team's record just on Monday Night games.

I would not bet against Carey's Huskies this post season, in spite of his post season record.

(12-04-2014 09:22 AM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 11:40 PM)Enaiu Wrote:  

(12-03-2014 10:32 PM)beachboy Wrote:  2-3 in MACC. 2005, lost to Akron. 2010, lost to Miami. 2011, beat Ohio. 2012, beat Kent State. 2013, lost to Bowling Green. 2014 ...

He means, they've won 2 out of 5.

Thank you. I need to quit posting before bed time.

(12-04-2014 09:07 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

I'm assuming you're counting the Orange Bowl and last year's MACC as two of those three. Fair enough. So, are you saying that the Utah St game was a bigger game than last week's game against WMU? That would be incorrect.

Carey is 0-3 in the post season, but that includes the Orange Bowl, which would have been a historical upset had the Huskies won.

But every game since the CMU loss has been do or die, and the Huskies are still very much alive.

Carey is also 3-0 vs the Big Ten-or-so, and how many coaches in the history of the MAC have done that? Those games were pretty big.

So looking at just Carey's post season record is like looking at an NFL team's record just on Monday Night games.

I would not bet against Carey's Huskies this post season, in spite of his post season record.

I don't think he's a bad coach or he can't win a big game.

After the first two it's really splitting hairs. There's no clear cut easy answer. Unless that one guy considers the Orange Bowl an exhibition game to be ignored.

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

The thought that NIU being discussed as one of the top 2 non-AQ teams fighting for a BCS spot the ENTIRE year by the press is trumped by a bowl loss on the West coast to the #2 MWC team who plays in that stadium every other year is just nuts.

This board is on suicide watch during every game!

(12-04-2014 09:48 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The loss vs Utah St had people questioning if the season had been a success, a conversation that wouldn't have taken place after an Iowa loss.

These boards were on suicide watch after the Utah St loss. A game shouldn't be judged solely on how big the win would be, it should be also how big the loss would be. It goes both ways.

I most likely led the pack on suicide watch with regards to the loss against Utah State, living in Utah all I heard was "told you, you guys suck".... Still stings

(12-04-2014 09:44 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(12-04-2014 09:03 AM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  I'd say Carey is 0-3 in his biggest games. Not to diminish what he has done but it's the truth.

The win at Iowa was better than what a win vs Utah St would have meant. On top of that it put us in the BCS conversation for the whole year.

Heck the win at NU this year was bigger than if we would have beat Utah St last year.

The casual NIU fan takes much much much more pride in the win over Iowa or NU over a MACC.