The SoCon was a one bid league this year and that whooshing sound you hear is the power vacuum that App and GS left when they left.

GS was gutted by injuries in 2013. About a third of their scholarship players missed multiple games. You hate to blame losses on injuries because it sounds like an excuse/cop out but in retrospect it is the truth. Sometimes blessings come from injuries, like McKinnon getting hurt and Ellison gaining the seasoning that led to the Florida win and this year's SunBelt title.

IMO the amount of players hurt in 2013 and therefore shelved led just about all of us, except those closest to the program, to underestimate the talent level in the program.

One other thing, and I hope y'all don't take this the wrong way, but the 2014 version of GS isn't close to being the best team they've ever fielded. Talent and production wise this group is similar to the 2004 version, but the 1986, 1989, 1999, and 2002 teams in particular were stronger IMO. An argument would be made for the 1990, 1998, 2012 teams too.

I've watched GS football since day one so I think I have a historical reference, but that is just my opinion and I could be wrong.

(12-01-2014 10:43 AM)GATA Wrote:  FWIW, here was a thread on GSUFans about the record. Most thought 6-6

http://www.gsufans.com/tsc/showthread.ph...commentary

And I picked it correctly at 9-3. I knew what GS could do. the fact that they were able to do it speaks volumes about the program. As far as "we didn't play the two best teams in the conference", true we didn't play ULL, but we did spank App (albeit at the beginning of the season), and USA. None of this means anything but ULL won a squeaker at Gstate and lost to App. And for the record, I also don't consider a 3 loss stAte team to be one of the best teams in the conference, middle of the pack, maybe.

(12-01-2014 10:43 AM)GATA Wrote:  FWIW, here was a thread on GSUFans about the record. Most thought 6-6

http://www.gsufans.com/tsc/showthread.ph...commentary

I'm the first man listed for 4-8. My bad.

(07-02-2014 03:44 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  The flex is absolutely the best offense for GSU. That cannot be denied. We already had two previous coaches that were all the rage. Basically the same people were championing them back then. I will go on record saying if Fritz wins 6 games, I will give him carte Blanche.

How about that check, big talker.

(12-01-2014 10:24 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  NCEagle It sounds like you're realizing this already, but your sensible posts are white noise right now amongst the legion of arrogant t-shirt GS fans. A championship is something to be celebrated...

T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

(12-01-2014 12:36 PM)gsu_paintballer Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 10:24 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  NCEagle It sounds like you're realizing this already, but your sensible posts are white noise right now amongst the legion of arrogant t-shirt GS fans. A championship is something to be celebrated...

T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

was trying to give Georgia Southern University the benefit of the doubt.

t-shirt fans...

(12-01-2014 12:36 PM)gsu_paintballer Wrote:  T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

(12-01-2014 01:04 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  t-shirt fans...

*facepalm*

maybe a second glance or three by you would reveal..
I said that it was only t-shirt GS fans that were the ones being obnoxious.

but if the shoe fits and you want to wear it that bad... More power to you guys.

I don't mind the bumping of this thread. The swipe at the conference is uncalled for, though.

(06-30-2014 11:47 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Yep for the last year all we have heard is how much better Georgia Southern will be and how the extra scholarships will take them to the next level....Meanwhile Georgia Southern fans will learn quickly this is not FCS...Its easy to play weaker FCS teams every week, but becomes more of a problem when you have to turn around and play FBS teams every week...Its takes a toll and when you first start you simply do not have the depth and injuries do mount when you play stronger and quicker teams week to week, its a big adjustment....Also changing to a new offense could take 1 or 2 years also before your players master it....New system in itself will lead to 3 or 4 losses alone not mention the higher step in the quality of opponents you will face week in and week out......When I see Gerogia Southern schedule I see at least 6 losses instead of seeing a win or a good chance of a win every week....Playing in Mobile and San Marcos is not an easy road either you will soon learn.......Funny I don't hear the same boastful talk from App. St fans this offseason that we read every day on this board from Georgia Southern fans....I am not saying either one will not be successful and also be as bad as we were to start, but its an uphill battle and guarantee its not going to be as easy as some are proclaiming on here...Talk to me after the season, in the meantime good luck to everyone in Sun Belt, still look forward to keeping tabs on most of the schools remaining in Sun Belt...

(12-01-2014 12:36 PM)gsu_paintballer Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 10:24 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  NCEagle It sounds like you're realizing this already, but your sensible posts are white noise right now amongst the legion of arrogant t-shirt GS fans. A championship is something to be celebrated...

T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

Congrats again!*





*did not play UL.

(12-01-2014 01:35 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:36 PM)gsu_paintballer Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 10:24 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  NCEagle It sounds like you're realizing this already, but your sensible posts are white noise right now amongst the legion of arrogant t-shirt GS fans. A championship is something to be celebrated...

T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

Congrats again!*





*did not play UL.

Congrats on second place!*

*did not have to play southern when App and USA did

(12-01-2014 12:59 PM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:36 PM)gsu_paintballer Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 10:24 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  NCEagle It sounds like you're realizing this already, but your sensible posts are white noise right now amongst the legion of arrogant t-shirt GS fans. A championship is something to be celebrated...

T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

was trying to give Georgia Southern University the benefit of the doubt.

I wish we had t-shirt fans in the area like UGA does.

We'd have 35k (at least) in attendance if we did.

(12-01-2014 01:09 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't mind the bumping of this thread. The swipe at the conference is uncalled for, though.

Admittedly there may be more talent in the Sun Belt but the top 4 SoCon teams every year would be in the top half of the sun belt every year. We went undefeated and won the conference because we played pretty well and our guys gave a lot of effort, but we also won because it was easy. Don't believe it? Look up our margin of victory vs conference opponents in the Sun Belt and vs the SoCOn. Look up Apps too. Youd be surprised. The tired argument that this is "big boy" football just isn't valid. We knew we could compete and win and a few of you were smart enough to acknowledge it, but most of you tried desperately to "put us in our place". Well that didn't work out for you and now you've taken to insulting or fans calling us petulant children among other things. We're not children anymore now are we? You can call us daddy now.

(12-01-2014 09:30 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 09:11 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 09:01 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  effing seriously?

jesus h Christ people. act like we've won before.

But all the FCS and Socon titles don't count. We hadn't won anything at the FBS level. So technically we haven't won before, so we can't act like we have (maybe we can pretend). Most fans of other schools predicted GS (and App) to have at most 3 wins and finish near the bottom of the conference. We far exceeded their expectations and even those of our fanbase.

and that is more reason to just sit back and enjoy it.

resurrecting threads like this and talking down to our competition makes our fan base look like ass holes.

THIS!

(12-01-2014 07:19 PM)oldfart Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 01:09 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't mind the bumping of this thread. The swipe at the conference is uncalled for, though.

Admittedly there may be more talent in the Sun Belt but the top 4 SoCon teams every year would be in the top half of the sun belt every year. We went undefeated and won the conference because we played pretty well and our guys gave a lot of effort, but we also won because it was easy. Don't believe it? Look up our margin of victory vs conference opponents in the Sun Belt and vs the SoCOn. Look up Apps too. Youd be surprised. The tired argument that this is "big boy" football just isn't valid. We knew we could compete and win and a few of you were smart enough to acknowledge it, but most of you tried desperately to "put us in our place". Well that didn't work out for you and now you've taken to insulting or fans calling us petulant children among other things. We're not children anymore now are we? You can call us daddy now.

This was the worst Sun Belt slate by a champion in nearly a decade. Your comparisons to the SOCON would not hold water from about 2008-2013. There was a precipitous drop off this year.

(12-01-2014 07:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:19 PM)oldfart Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 01:09 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't mind the bumping of this thread. The swipe at the conference is uncalled for, though.

Admittedly there may be more talent in the Sun Belt but the top 4 SoCon teams every year would be in the top half of the sun belt every year. We went undefeated and won the conference because we played pretty well and our guys gave a lot of effort, but we also won because it was easy. Don't believe it? Look up our margin of victory vs conference opponents in the Sun Belt and vs the SoCOn. Look up Apps too. Youd be surprised. The tired argument that this is "big boy" football just isn't valid. We knew we could compete and win and a few of you were smart enough to acknowledge it, but most of you tried desperately to "put us in our place". Well that didn't work out for you and now you've taken to insulting or fans calling us petulant children among other things. We're not children anymore now are we? You can call us daddy now.

This was the worst Sun Belt slate by a champion in nearly a decade. Your comparisons to the SOCON would not hold water from about 2008-2013. There was a precipitous drop off this year.

That comparison is inappropriate in ANY year. And if they truly feel that way, they're certainly free to go back where they came from . . . ..

(12-01-2014 07:37 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:19 PM)oldfart Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 01:09 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't mind the bumping of this thread. The swipe at the conference is uncalled for, though.

Admittedly there may be more talent in the Sun Belt but the top 4 SoCon teams every year would be in the top half of the sun belt every year. We went undefeated and won the conference because we played pretty well and our guys gave a lot of effort, but we also won because it was easy. Don't believe it? Look up our margin of victory vs conference opponents in the Sun Belt and vs the SoCOn. Look up Apps too. Youd be surprised. The tired argument that this is "big boy" football just isn't valid. We knew we could compete and win and a few of you were smart enough to acknowledge it, but most of you tried desperately to "put us in our place". Well that didn't work out for you and now you've taken to insulting or fans calling us petulant children among other things. We're not children anymore now are we? You can call us daddy now.

This was the worst Sun Belt slate by a champion in nearly a decade. Your comparisons to the SOCON would not hold water from about 2008-2013. There was a precipitous drop off this year.

That comparison is inappropriate in ANY year. And if they truly feel that way, they're certainly free to go back where they came from . . . ..

The Sun Belt from 2001-2005 and in 2014 was pretty terrible. I don'tknow about the top 4 in the SOCON, but two barely removed SOCON programs fared pretty well this year.

(12-01-2014 07:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:37 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:19 PM)oldfart Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 01:09 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I don't mind the bumping of this thread. The swipe at the conference is uncalled for, though.

Admittedly there may be more talent in the Sun Belt but the top 4 SoCon teams every year would be in the top half of the sun belt every year. We went undefeated and won the conference because we played pretty well and our guys gave a lot of effort, but we also won because it was easy. Don't believe it? Look up our margin of victory vs conference opponents in the Sun Belt and vs the SoCOn. Look up Apps too. Youd be surprised. The tired argument that this is "big boy" football just isn't valid. We knew we could compete and win and a few of you were smart enough to acknowledge it, but most of you tried desperately to "put us in our place". Well that didn't work out for you and now you've taken to insulting or fans calling us petulant children among other things. We're not children anymore now are we? You can call us daddy now.

This was the worst Sun Belt slate by a champion in nearly a decade. Your comparisons to the SOCON would not hold water from about 2008-2013. There was a precipitous drop off this year.

That comparison is inappropriate in ANY year. And if they truly feel that way, they're certainly free to go back where they came from . . . ..

The Sun Belt from 2001-2005 and in 2014 was pretty terrible. I don'tknow about the top 4 in the SOCON, but two barely removed SOCON programs fared pretty well this year.

IF they were still in the Socon and wanted to slam the Belt, that's one thing . . But to be in the Belt, and intimate that the competition here Is a step down from the Socon is not cool..... Would be like a new member of CUSA dissing the rest of y'all . .
Pretty sure you wouldn't care for it either . . . . Together we . . . . (What?)

(12-01-2014 01:35 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 12:36 PM)gsu_paintballer Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 10:24 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  NCEagle It sounds like you're realizing this already, but your sensible posts are white noise right now amongst the legion of arrogant t-shirt GS fans. A championship is something to be celebrated...

T-shirt fans. Right.

I can assure you the majority of US attended southern.

Congrats again!*





*did not play UL.

Zee,

Let me borrow a line from my man Nelly, from the LOU!

While we're spraying champagne
There’s nothing nobody can say

There is some Cristal on the floor if you want a taste.