And USF performed about as expected.

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:46 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:44 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  For everyone that says memphis had an easy conference schedule chew on this. Houston ,cincy,ecu,ucf were the top 4 teams in the preseason right, ok now if memphis played 2 of those 4 then how again did we have it so easy? I think the majority of teams played some combo of 2 of the 4, am I wrong? Uh missed ecu and ucf and so on and so on right. Im sure some team my have drawn all 4 or maybe only 1 of the 4 but I would like to be proven wrong

Memphis played one top 4 team. Cincy and ECU played 2.

Oh good grief, some of you guys try to cherry pick to bellyache. Here is a big whoopin dose of reality:


Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

UCF has only played 2 of the top 5 not named UCF and will play the third this week. UCF hasn't played as many top teams as Memphis has yet.

The same goes for ECU, only two top 5 teams not named ECU. And you guys have already lost two games.

Cinci has played 3, and will play a 4th. Cincinnati is really the only team that can talk about the schedule. The two teams doing most of the bitching about Memphis has played fewer of the top teams than Memphis has already played, and one of you have lost more games already.

Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:46 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:44 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  For everyone that says memphis had an easy conference schedule chew on this. Houston ,cincy,ecu,ucf were the top 4 teams in the preseason right, ok now if memphis played 2 of those 4 then how again did we have it so easy? I think the majority of teams played some combo of 2 of the 4, am I wrong? Uh missed ecu and ucf and so on and so on right. Im sure some team my have drawn all 4 or maybe only 1 of the 4 but I would like to be proven wrong

Memphis played one top 4 team. Cincy and ECU played 2.

Oh good grief, some of you guys try to cherry pick to bellyache. Here is a big whoopin dose of reality:


Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

UCF has only played 2 of the top 5 not named UCF and will play the third this week. UCF hasn't played as many top teams as Memphis has yet.

The same goes for ECU, only two top 5 teams not named ECU. And you guys have already lost two games.

Cinci has played 3, and will play a 4th. Cincinnati is really the only team that can talk about the schedule. The two teams doing most of the bitching about Memphis has played fewer of the top teams than Memphis has already played, and one of you have lost more games already.

Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

(11-30-2014 10:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:46 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Memphis played one top 4 team. Cincy and ECU played 2.

Oh good grief, some of you guys try to cherry pick to bellyache. Here is a big whoopin dose of reality:


Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

UCF has only played 2 of the top 5 not named UCF and will play the third this week. UCF hasn't played as many top teams as Memphis has yet.

The same goes for ECU, only two top 5 teams not named ECU. And you guys have already lost two games.

Cinci has played 3, and will play a 4th. Cincinnati is really the only team that can talk about the schedule. The two teams doing most of the bitching about Memphis has played fewer of the top teams than Memphis has already played, and one of you have lost more games already.

Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

As far as Memphis,

Houston 1
Cincinnati 1
Temple +1
***** = 3

I know what you're thinking..... "Temple blah blah blah" well, you conveniently left off this part of his post:

Quote:Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

As for Cincy,
They play Houston Next week.
3+1=4

(11-30-2014 10:43 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Oh good grief, some of you guys try to cherry pick to bellyache. Here is a big whoopin dose of reality:


Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

UCF has only played 2 of the top 5 not named UCF and will play the third this week. UCF hasn't played as many top teams as Memphis has yet.

The same goes for ECU, only two top 5 teams not named ECU. And you guys have already lost two games.

Cinci has played 3, and will play a 4th. Cincinnati is really the only team that can talk about the schedule. The two teams doing most of the bitching about Memphis has played fewer of the top teams than Memphis has already played, and one of you have lost more games already.

Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

As far as Memphis,

Houston 1
Cincinnati 1
Temple +1
***** = 3

I know what you're thinking..... "Temple blah blah blah" well, you conveniently left off this part of his post:

Quote:Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

As for Cincy,
They play Houston Next week.
3+1=4

Well then we've played 3 not 2. Both of the games we've played so far on the road. Memphis lost one of their top 5 games on the road. 2 of memphis' top 5 games were against #4 and #5. 2 of ECUs against top 3. 2 of Cincys against top 3

Ok let's try it this way. There is no such thing as a balanced schedule in any conference not named big12. The only thing a team can semi control is ooc. Every teams job is to win as many of their ASSIGNED conference games as possible. That's it case closed. In conference schedule strength is in constant fluidity. What appears to be a bad schedule can suddenly become a great schedule halfway through and vice versa depending on actual play s. People harping on this I think are displaying sour grapes

When the season started I didn't recall a single ecu or ucf fan complaining about conference schedules but since memphis came up that's the narrative.

(11-30-2014 01:27 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Not that we're especially deserving of a Bowl, but if we get left out of a Bowl Game again like we were when going 8-4, that would be pretty lame.

Temple is a helluva lot better than the record suggests. If you make it to a bowl, the opponent had better be ready for a tough game.

(11-30-2014 09:50 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  What we all can agree on is that Boise is the top team right now and Marshall sucks.

Ole Miss beat Boise worse on a neutral field than they beat Memphis in Oxford, MS. Furthermore, Boise has no accomplishment to match Memphis' near win on UCLA's home field.

(11-30-2014 11:04 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  When the season started I didn't recall a single ecu or ucf fan complaining about conference schedules but since memphis came up that's the narrative.

ECU fans have complained about this mess from the start...3 Thursdays and a Friday are great for fans. Hopefully it will settle out next year. Memphis has a good team that beat those that they were scheduled against. Luckily that did not include 2 of the leagues better teams. Just luck of the draw. Nothing more needs saying IMO.

(11-30-2014 03:02 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 01:45 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 01:18 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  Wasn't this what we were afraid of? A team like boise running through a weak*** mwc and stealing the ny6 bowl while we all pound on each other. If this was one of the mwc 3 best teams then maybe its still a very weak conference and boise is the only truly decent team. I just don't believe that boise would run through the aac like this

MWC is like AAC. Strong at the top:Boise, Air Force, Colorado St, Utah St and weak at the bottom, unlv, Hawaii New Mexico San Jose st

AAC: ECU, Cinci, Memphis, UCF, Houston--strong.
SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, UCONN, USF--bad

It doesn't help that we didn't have more head to head match ups. UCONN lost at home to Boise and Houston won at home to UNLV. We had a horrible OOC this season. I say "we" but ECU got 2 out of the whopping 3 whole OOC P5 wins for the league. I'm happy for Memphis, you guys had a great year but lets not act like you beat everyone OOC like you could have, or didn't skip the top 2 teams in the league. The OOC portion of the Schedule was a huge flop for everyone but ECU this year, only Temple didn't lay an egg with their W over Vandy. I don't wanna take away from your year at all but describing your peers as "weak ass"?? Pretty cocky already huh?

I like you billy... But I can't let you get away with this "the MWC is equal to the AAC" nonsense.

The AAC has 6/SIX solid football programs in Memphis, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, ECU, Temple and perhaps 7 next year with Tulane/UConn... SMU has a very nice football history and won't be down for long.

The MWC in the other hand, not even close but Boise and perhaps two others.

This season is what I'm talking about. Neither league set the world on fire, and a lot of chest pounding going on that we had a great year. ECU had a solid OOC while everyone else flopped. Going into the season I thought there d be more separation between the AAC and MWC. I hated marshan fans being disingenuous as much as you saying cusa was same as AAC. Now I'm seeing the same thing here. We are talking trash about a league (MWC) in one breath, and scheming on how to snag all those "weak ass" MWC teams in other threads. Odd, isn't it biggie? I call em as I see em. Maybe I better keep my opinion to myself if you think it's hurting the league. I think Memphis had a great year.

(11-30-2014 10:44 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:43 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

As far as Memphis,

Houston 1
Cincinnati 1
Temple +1
***** = 3

I know what you're thinking..... "Temple blah blah blah" well, you conveniently left off this part of his post:

Quote:Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

As for Cincy,
They play Houston Next week.
3+1=4

Well then we've played 3 not 2. Both of the games we've played so far on the road. Memphis lost one of their top 5 games on the road. 2 of memphis' top 5 games were against #4 and #5. 2 of ECUs against top 3. 2 of Cincys against top 3

We didn't lose a game on the road in conference

(11-30-2014 11:25 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 11:04 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  When the season started I didn't recall a single ecu or ucf fan complaining about conference schedules but since memphis came up that's the narrative.

ECU fans have complained about this mess from the start...3 Thursdays and a Friday are great for fans. Hopefully it will settle out next year. Memphis has a good team that beat those that they were scheduled against. Luckily that did not include 2 of the leagues better teams. Just luck of the draw. Nothing more needs saying IMO.

You are lucky you didn't play Memphis

(11-30-2014 11:04 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  When the season started I didn't recall a single ecu or ucf fan complaining about conference schedules but since memphis came up that's the narrative.

Actually we did, since most UCF fans noted how "odd" it was that Memphis didn't get a return trip to Orlando this year, after UCF had to play at Memphis in both 2012 and 2013.

And yes, I understand 2012 was in CUSA but I'm *sure* someone at the AAC could have glanced back at the CUSA schedule.

So instead of getting a good home matchup against Memphis, and continuing a matchup that had been plated every year since 2005, we instead got Tulsa or Tulane at home.

I think anyone would agree that UCF would be favored at home against Memphis.

It's clear the AAC went out of their way to avoid scheduling ECU, UC, UCF, and Memphis against eachother too much but it created what we have now- a log jam and a pissing match.

(11-30-2014 11:21 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:50 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  What we all can agree on is that Boise is the top team right now and Marshall sucks.

Ole Miss beat Boise worse on a neutral field than they beat Memphis in Oxford, MS. Furthermore, Boise has no accomplishment to match Memphis' near win on UCLA's home field.

I agree but I'm going by their rank by the committee. They control their own destiny.

(11-30-2014 12:13 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 11:21 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:50 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  What we all can agree on is that Boise is the top team right now and Marshall sucks.

Ole Miss beat Boise worse on a neutral field than they beat Memphis in Oxford, MS. Furthermore, Boise has no accomplishment to match Memphis' near win on UCLA's home field.

I agree but I'm going by their rank by the committee. They control their own destiny.

Moral losses don't count. You guys had a great year and I'm thrilled for you. If Boise loses their rematch game in the MWC championship game then Memphis could make the access bowl slot. If Memphis had actually won the ucla game we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. On top of that, if Memphis wouldn't have lost that game plus the Houston game at home, we most CERTAINLY wouldn't be having this conversation. You guys would be in, no question....

(11-30-2014 11:28 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 03:02 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 01:45 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 01:18 AM)tigersmoke1 Wrote:  Wasn't this what we were afraid of? A team like boise running through a weak*** mwc and stealing the ny6 bowl while we all pound on each other. If this was one of the mwc 3 best teams then maybe its still a very weak conference and boise is the only truly decent team. I just don't believe that boise would run through the aac like this

MWC is like AAC. Strong at the top:Boise, Air Force, Colorado St, Utah St and weak at the bottom, unlv, Hawaii New Mexico San Jose st

AAC: ECU, Cinci, Memphis, UCF, Houston--strong.
SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, UCONN, USF--bad

It doesn't help that we didn't have more head to head match ups. UCONN lost at home to Boise and Houston won at home to UNLV. We had a horrible OOC this season. I say "we" but ECU got 2 out of the whopping 3 whole OOC P5 wins for the league. I'm happy for Memphis, you guys had a great year but lets not act like you beat everyone OOC like you could have, or didn't skip the top 2 teams in the league. The OOC portion of the Schedule was a huge flop for everyone but ECU this year, only Temple didn't lay an egg with their W over Vandy. I don't wanna take away from your year at all but describing your peers as "weak ass"?? Pretty cocky already huh?

I like you billy... But I can't let you get away with this "the MWC is equal to the AAC" nonsense.

The AAC has 6/SIX solid football programs in Memphis, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, ECU, Temple and perhaps 7 next year with Tulane/UConn... SMU has a very nice football history and won't be down for long.

The MWC in the other hand, not even close but Boise and perhaps two others.

This season is what I'm talking about. Neither league set the world on fire, and a lot of chest pounding going on that we had a great year. ECU had a solid OOC while everyone else flopped. Going into the season I thought there d be more separation between the AAC and MWC. I hated marshan fans being disingenuous as much as you saying cusa was same as AAC. Now I'm seeing the same thing here. We are talking trash about a league (MWC) in one breath, and scheming on how to snag all those "weak ass" MWC teams in other threads. Odd, isn't it biggie? I call em as I see em. Maybe I better keep my opinion to myself if you think it's hurting the league. I think Memphis had a great year.

C'mon now, billy, you know we have some good fun back and forth discussions... Please carry on...

(11-30-2014 11:34 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:44 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:43 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

As far as Memphis,

Houston 1
Cincinnati 1
Temple +1
***** = 3

I know what you're thinking..... "Temple blah blah blah" well, you conveniently left off this part of his post:

Quote:Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

As for Cincy,
They play Houston Next week.
3+1=4

Well then we've played 3 not 2. Both of the games we've played so far on the road. Memphis lost one of their top 5 games on the road. 2 of memphis' top 5 games were against #4 and #5. 2 of ECUs against top 3. 2 of Cincys against top 3

We didn't lose a game on the road in conference

My bad, you're right. Thought you played Houston on the road.

(11-30-2014 10:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 09:46 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Memphis played one top 4 team. Cincy and ECU played 2.

Oh good grief, some of you guys try to cherry pick to bellyache. Here is a big whoopin dose of reality:


Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

UCF has only played 2 of the top 5 not named UCF and will play the third this week. UCF hasn't played as many top teams as Memphis has yet.

The same goes for ECU, only two top 5 teams not named ECU. And you guys have already lost two games.

Cinci has played 3, and will play a 4th. Cincinnati is really the only team that can talk about the schedule. The two teams doing most of the bitching about Memphis has played fewer of the top teams than Memphis has already played, and one of you have lost more games already.

Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

I know this can be hard for people trying to cherry pick, but it really is easy. Take the top half of the league. What is memphis', cinci's, ecu, and ucf's record against the top half. Stop trying to cherry pick a couple of teams. Memphis is on top of the league. They can't play themselves. So take the top half of the league. Memphis has already played and won against more of the top half than any other team other than cinci.

It's that simple. You can *****, moan, gripe, etc. etc. etc. but it's time for some real talk. Memphis is done. They've already played more teams in the top half of the league than ecu, or ucf. It's childish to beitch about the schedule, when Memphis has currently played more teams inthe top half of the league than ucf or ecu. And Memphis destroyed cinci at Cincinnati.

Game...set.....match.....

(11-30-2014 03:15 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:33 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:31 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:13 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 10:00 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Oh good grief, some of you guys try to cherry pick to bellyache. Here is a big whoopin dose of reality:


Memphis has already played 3of the top 5 teams in the conference not named Memphis.

UCF has only played 2 of the top 5 not named UCF and will play the third this week. UCF hasn't played as many top teams as Memphis has yet.

The same goes for ECU, only two top 5 teams not named ECU. And you guys have already lost two games.

Cinci has played 3, and will play a 4th. Cincinnati is really the only team that can talk about the schedule. The two teams doing most of the bitching about Memphis has played fewer of the top teams than Memphis has already played, and one of you have lost more games already.

Memphis has played Cincy and Houston. 1+1=2
Cincy has played Memphis, ECU, Houston 1+1+1=3.

Not sure if you completely made stuff up, or just can't add.

If you'll care to read (I'll even bold it for you), he just said Cincy is the only team that can talk about schedule...

If you'll care to read he said Memphis played 3 (they didn't) and Cincy will play 4 ( they didn't). I'll even bold it for you.

I know this can be hard for people trying yo cherry pick, but it really is easy. Take the top half of the league. What is memphis', cinci's, ecu, and ucf's record against the top half. Stop trying to cherry pick a couple of teams. Memphis is on top of the league. They can't play themselves. So take the top half of the league. Memphis has already played and won against the top half than any other team other than cinci. It's that simple. You can *****, moan, gripe, etc. etc. etc. but it's time for some real talk. Memphis is done. They've already played more teams in the top half the league than ecu, or ucf. It's childish to itch about the schedule, when Memphis has currently played more teams inthe top half of the league than ucf or ecu. And Memphis destroyed cinci at Cincinnati.

Game...set.....match.....

3=3
Nobody is denying that Memphis won their games, but 2 of your top 5 were #4 and #5. After UC, ECU, UCF, and Memphis. There is a drop. Memphis played one top 3. UC, ECU, and UCF all played 2.