(11-26-2014 05:09 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I'm on the floor tonight better not have 21 turnovers again

I was gonna go with Mestango but I dawned.

Should have he has great seats

(11-26-2014 06:34 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 05:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:49 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:38 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Dang it ECU. Beat these types of teams.

Someone's not happy today......wonder if we could beat CBU

You can keep bringing up a game that doesn't count but getting brutalized by UNC Ashville, Green Bay, and Hawaii doesn't help the AAC.

It's OK for SMU to say, oh we have a starter out. Cincy to say, were young. And whatever Memphis' excuse is. But we have 2 starters out, and 7 new players.
Green Bay would beat the bottom half of the AAC. We could've beaten both Hawaii and UNCA. Not sure what your definition of brutalized is.

ECU could not have beaten those teams that they lost, because ECU is a terrible rebounding team. Terrible.

UNCA outrebounded ECU 43-27; (13-5 offensively).
Green Bay outrebounded ECU 36-25; (12-13 offensively).
Hawaii outrebounded ECU 41-29; (16-7 offensively).

ECU was bigger than all of those teams, except probably Green Bay. No team will win many games if they are on the lopsided end of the rebounding battles.

We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

(11-26-2014 06:45 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:34 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 05:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:49 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Someone's not happy today......wonder if we could beat CBU

You can keep bringing up a game that doesn't count but getting brutalized by UNC Ashville, Green Bay, and Hawaii doesn't help the AAC.

It's OK for SMU to say, oh we have a starter out. Cincy to say, were young. And whatever Memphis' excuse is. But we have 2 starters out, and 7 new players.
Green Bay would beat the bottom half of the AAC. We could've beaten both Hawaii and UNCA. Not sure what your definition of brutalized is.

ECU could not have beaten those teams that they lost, because ECU is a terrible rebounding team. Terrible.

UNCA outrebounded ECU 43-27; (13-5 offensively).
Green Bay outrebounded ECU 36-25; (12-13 offensively).
Hawaii outrebounded ECU 41-29; (16-7 offensively).

ECU was bigger than all of those teams, except probably Green Bay. No team will win many games if they are on the lopsided end of the rebounding battles.

We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

We have 3 pretty talented players in White, Whisnant, and Tyson. The problem is we can't rebound or defend the post. If we had anyone in the post we would be a damn good team.

(11-26-2014 06:45 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:34 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 05:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:49 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:41 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Someone's not happy today......wonder if we could beat CBU

You can keep bringing up a game that doesn't count but getting brutalized by UNC Ashville, Green Bay, and Hawaii doesn't help the AAC.

It's OK for SMU to say, oh we have a starter out. Cincy to say, were young. And whatever Memphis' excuse is. But we have 2 starters out, and 7 new players.
Green Bay would beat the bottom half of the AAC. We could've beaten both Hawaii and UNCA. Not sure what your definition of brutalized is.

ECU could not have beaten those teams that they lost, because ECU is a terrible rebounding team. Terrible.

UNCA outrebounded ECU 43-27; (13-5 offensively).
Green Bay outrebounded ECU 36-25; (12-13 offensively).
Hawaii outrebounded ECU 41-29; (16-7 offensively).

ECU was bigger than all of those teams, except probably Green Bay. No team will win many games if they are on the lopsided end of the rebounding battles.

We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

Right and the reason for the losses is because ECU gave up too many rebounds, particularly too many offensive rebounds; which gave the other teams too many second chance points.

Notice that in ECU's wins they outrebounded their opponents:

ECU outrebounded UNC Weslyn 46-33.
ECU outrebounded Virginia Lynchburg 59-30.
ECU outrebounded Fresno State 33-30; (7-6 offensively).

Rebounding. That is where most games are won or lost. Hell if ECU was even an average rebounding team then they would have won all of those games by 10 points each. The fact is that ECU sucks on the boards.

(11-26-2014 06:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:45 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:34 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 05:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 04:49 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  You can keep bringing up a game that doesn't count but getting brutalized by UNC Ashville, Green Bay, and Hawaii doesn't help the AAC.

It's OK for SMU to say, oh we have a starter out. Cincy to say, were young. And whatever Memphis' excuse is. But we have 2 starters out, and 7 new players.
Green Bay would beat the bottom half of the AAC. We could've beaten both Hawaii and UNCA. Not sure what your definition of brutalized is.

ECU could not have beaten those teams that they lost, because ECU is a terrible rebounding team. Terrible.

UNCA outrebounded ECU 43-27; (13-5 offensively).
Green Bay outrebounded ECU 36-25; (12-13 offensively).
Hawaii outrebounded ECU 41-29; (16-7 offensively).

ECU was bigger than all of those teams, except probably Green Bay. No team will win many games if they are on the lopsided end of the rebounding battles.

We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

Right and the reason for the losses is because ECU gave up too many rebounds, particularly too many offensive rebounds; which gave the other teams too many second chance points.

Notice that in ECU's wins they outrebounded their opponents:

ECU outrebounded UNC Weslyn 46-33.
ECU outrebounded Virginia Lynchburg 59-30.
ECU outrebounded Fresno State 33-30; (7-6 offensively).

Rebounding. That is where most games are won or lost. Hell if ECU was even an average rebounding team then they would have won all of those games by 10 points each. The fact is that ECU sucks on the boards.

I'm not arguing that we can't rebound, but to say we couldn't have beat UNCA or Hawaii is a little overboard

(11-26-2014 06:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:45 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:34 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 05:34 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  It's OK for SMU to say, oh we have a starter out. Cincy to say, were young. And whatever Memphis' excuse is. But we have 2 starters out, and 7 new players.
Green Bay would beat the bottom half of the AAC. We could've beaten both Hawaii and UNCA. Not sure what your definition of brutalized is.

ECU could not have beaten those teams that they lost, because ECU is a terrible rebounding team. Terrible.

UNCA outrebounded ECU 43-27; (13-5 offensively).
Green Bay outrebounded ECU 36-25; (12-13 offensively).
Hawaii outrebounded ECU 41-29; (16-7 offensively).

ECU was bigger than all of those teams, except probably Green Bay. No team will win many games if they are on the lopsided end of the rebounding battles.

We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

Right and the reason for the losses is because ECU gave up too many rebounds, particularly too many offensive rebounds; which gave the other teams too many second chance points.

Notice that in ECU's wins they outrebounded their opponents:

ECU outrebounded UNC Weslyn 46-33.
ECU outrebounded Virginia Lynchburg 59-30.
ECU outrebounded Fresno State 33-30; (7-6 offensively).

Rebounding. That is where most games are won or lost. Hell if ECU was even an average rebounding team then they would have won all of those games by 10 points each. The fact is that ECU sucks on the boards.

I'm not arguing that we can't rebound, but to say we couldn't have beat UNCA or Hawaii is a little overboard

The only way to beat them is to rebound. As you have seen with your own eyes ECU doesn't rebound; so you can't beat a team like UNC Ashville.

Can ECU become a better rebounding team? Yes.

Will ECU become a better rebounding team? I don't know, but I am leaning towards no.

Will ECU lose a lot more games that they could have won if they simply rebounded the ball? Yes.

What is the answer? Get some players that will fight for rebounds. It comes from the coach.

(11-26-2014 07:06 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:45 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:34 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  ECU could not have beaten those teams that they lost, because ECU is a terrible rebounding team. Terrible.

UNCA outrebounded ECU 43-27; (13-5 offensively).
Green Bay outrebounded ECU 36-25; (12-13 offensively).
Hawaii outrebounded ECU 41-29; (16-7 offensively).

ECU was bigger than all of those teams, except probably Green Bay. No team will win many games if they are on the lopsided end of the rebounding battles.

We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

Right and the reason for the losses is because ECU gave up too many rebounds, particularly too many offensive rebounds; which gave the other teams too many second chance points.

Notice that in ECU's wins they outrebounded their opponents:

ECU outrebounded UNC Weslyn 46-33.
ECU outrebounded Virginia Lynchburg 59-30.
ECU outrebounded Fresno State 33-30; (7-6 offensively).

Rebounding. That is where most games are won or lost. Hell if ECU was even an average rebounding team then they would have won all of those games by 10 points each. The fact is that ECU sucks on the boards.

I'm not arguing that we can't rebound, but to say we couldn't have beat UNCA or Hawaii is a little overboard

The only way to beat them is to rebound. As you have seen with your own eyes ECU doesn't rebound; so you can't beat a team like UNC Ashville.

Can ECU become a better rebounding team? Yes.

Will ECU become a better rebounding team? I don't know, but I am leaning towards no.

Will ECU lose a lot more games that they could have won if they simply rebounded the ball? Yes.

What is the answer? Get some players that will fight for rebounds. It comes from the coach.

If we make five more free throws against UNCA we win. If we make 3 more free throws against Hawaii we win. So no rebounding is not the only way to beat them.

UCF has looked a decent so far

(11-26-2014 07:08 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 07:06 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:56 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 06:45 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  We couldn't have won even though we lost by less than five points in both games? OK.

Right and the reason for the losses is because ECU gave up too many rebounds, particularly too many offensive rebounds; which gave the other teams too many second chance points.

Notice that in ECU's wins they outrebounded their opponents:

ECU outrebounded UNC Weslyn 46-33.
ECU outrebounded Virginia Lynchburg 59-30.
ECU outrebounded Fresno State 33-30; (7-6 offensively).

Rebounding. That is where most games are won or lost. Hell if ECU was even an average rebounding team then they would have won all of those games by 10 points each. The fact is that ECU sucks on the boards.

I'm not arguing that we can't rebound, but to say we couldn't have beat UNCA or Hawaii is a little overboard

The only way to beat them is to rebound. As you have seen with your own eyes ECU doesn't rebound; so you can't beat a team like UNC Ashville.

Can ECU become a better rebounding team? Yes.

Will ECU become a better rebounding team? I don't know, but I am leaning towards no.

Will ECU lose a lot more games that they could have won if they simply rebounded the ball? Yes.

What is the answer? Get some players that will fight for rebounds. It comes from the coach.

If we make five more free throws against UNCA we win. If we make 3 more free throws against Hawaii we win. So no rebounding is not the only way to beat them.

ECU gave up 13 offensive rebounds to UNC Ashville; 9 of the rebounds were by Ubaru, Zilli and Roberts who were the low post players for UNC Ashville. Those 9 rebounds ended up translating into at least 8-12 points for UNC Ashville. If ECU would have rebounded the ball then they would have won that game easily.

http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskb...u1116.html

UCF's game really took a turn for the worse

(11-26-2014 08:49 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF's game really took a turn for the worse

It's a bad loss but, only because of the difference in the scores. Davidson is a good team. The good news here is that the season is still young and there's time to improve.

(11-26-2014 08:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:49 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF's game really took a turn for the worse

It's a bad loss but, only because of the difference in the scores. Davidson is a good team. The good news here is that the season is still young and there's time to improve.

I have never seen shooting like that. Their pg missed two shots. 15 of 17 and they shot 13 threes. They got 40 percent of those. We shot 48 points but we couldn't catch up because of the tres. Our def rebounding was atrocious though. We also lost bj Taylor in the first half. We just couldn't gaurd their shooters and play on the boards where we had the size advantage.

Once BJ Taylor went out with an injury the flow of everything died. Hope he is ok because we need him.

(11-26-2014 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:49 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF's game really took a turn for the worse

It's a bad loss but, only because of the difference in the scores. Davidson is a good team. The good news here is that the season is still young and there's time to improve.

I have never seen shooting like that. Their pg missed two shots. 15 of 17 and they shot 13 threes. They got 40 percent of those. We shot 48 points but we couldn't catch up because of the tres. Our def rebounding was atrocious though. We also lost bj Taylor in the first half. We just couldn't gaurd their shooters and play on the boards where we had the size advantage.

Yeah I think the injury definitely hurt you. The problem was as it usually is with Davidson, they love to shoot the three. I'm betting they run entire practices on the three point line. It's not a secret though, you just have to get the size advantage. That's usually the teams they have trouble with.

(11-26-2014 09:08 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:49 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF's game really took a turn for the worse

It's a bad loss but, only because of the difference in the scores. Davidson is a good team. The good news here is that the season is still young and there's time to improve.

I have never seen shooting like that. Their pg missed two shots. 15 of 17 and they shot 13 threes. They got 40 percent of those. We shot 48 points but we couldn't catch up because of the tres. Our def rebounding was atrocious though. We also lost bj Taylor in the first half. We just couldn't gaurd their shooters and play on the boards where we had the size advantage.

Yeah I think the injury definitely hurt you. The problem was as it usually is with Davidson, they love to shoot the three. I'm betting they run entire practices on the three point line. It's not a secret though, you just have to get the size advantage. That's usually the teams they have trouble with.

They moved the ball nicely and had open looks all night and hit them. They completely obliterated us in the 2nd half.

We have more overall talent than last year but definitely a work in progress. Hopefully Taylor's ankle doesn't make him miss any games.

(11-26-2014 09:44 PM)Mike the Knight Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 09:08 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 08:49 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF's game really took a turn for the worse

It's a bad loss but, only because of the difference in the scores. Davidson is a good team. The good news here is that the season is still young and there's time to improve.

I have never seen shooting like that. Their pg missed two shots. 15 of 17 and they shot 13 threes. They got 40 percent of those. We shot 48 points but we couldn't catch up because of the tres. Our def rebounding was atrocious though. We also lost bj Taylor in the first half. We just couldn't gaurd their shooters and play on the boards where we had the size advantage.

Yeah I think the injury definitely hurt you. The problem was as it usually is with Davidson, they love to shoot the three. I'm betting they run entire practices on the three point line. It's not a secret though, you just have to get the size advantage. That's usually the teams they have trouble with.

They moved the ball nicely and had open looks all night and hit them. They completely obliterated us in the 2nd half.

We have more overall talent than last year but definitely a work in progress. Hopefully Taylor's ankle doesn't make him miss any games.

Then you guys need to get better just as we do. Face it, we need to be UofL times 2. That's our only ticket into a Paid5 Conference and if not that then our teams will anchor a new paid5 Conference.

If both South Florida and UCF are good in all sports, this rivalry will be a year round national event. Everyone will want a piece of it.

Lol USF fans are brimming with optimism. Will not fault you for that though. It's been rough on y'all in basketball.

UCF is a huge disappointment.

(11-26-2014 11:32 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  UCF is a huge disappointment.

I guess you should worry about your own team about now eh?