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Since the day the Ferguson story broke months and months ago until today, there have been countless senseless tragedies and violent crimes that have received a tiny, tiny fraction of coverage that this spectacle has received.

I'm beyond fatigued with this story and tired of the worldwide post-humous celebrity status of Michael Brown, and the endless race-bait and violence porn that CNN, et al, will splash on the screens 24/7 through the end of the year.

Now go ahead, Ferguson rioters. Finish off looting every last business so there is no future investment within a 10 mile radius of your charred town. And then complain later about how there are no job opportunities in the ghettos.
11-25-2014 06:18 AM
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Obama had the Quote of the Day with lasts nights speech " We are a Nation of Laws" 03-lmfao
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Lucky Obama didn't want the national guard
It seems like really nice protesters.
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(11-25-2014 06:59 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Obama had the Quote of the Day with lasts nights speech " We are a Nation of Laws" 03-lmfao

Yeah i laughed when i heard that. Laws ate a matter of convenience for him.
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I thought the press conference that Bob Mcculloch gave was very informative. He went through the steps, the evidence, described some of the testimony heard, and gave up as much information as he could. He was basically in a no win situation. If he and his office would've poured through the evidence and testimony and came up with the same decision, people would be calling for his head.. People are upset now because they feel justice was not served and he passed the buck. If he'd chose to indict and during the court proceedings he couldn't prove the charge he chose to indict on, he'd been criticized. I don't think a special prosecutor could've made a case about this.

I do, however, find it interesting that he made mention of the testimony and physical evidence and how some of the testimony changed after evidence was introduced.. How some eventually stated that they didn't see the actual shooting but going off what they heard (I vaguely remember there being an argument in here where that was said).. The question about perjury was one I never thought about until it was asked last night, and I fully believe Mcculloch said the right thing.. He wouldn't go after anyone that possibly committed perjury because if they stuck to what they stated from the beginning to the end, no matter the physical evidence, he didn't feel they should be prosecuted because they testified to what they saw.

Several questions were answered. Darren Wilson apparently knew of the robbery. He did call for back up. He did not have a taser. He didn't risk trying to mace Brown during the attack because it would've rendered him helpless. He couldn't reach for his asp because of how he was sitting in the SUV. He was attacked, although he didn't suffer from a "fractured skull". In his testimony he did say that out of all the hits he took, only 2 were serious hits to the face. Along with the 2 shots inside his SUV, he fired off 10 more with at least 6 hitting Brown. There's still the debate if Brown had his hands up. It sounded like some say he did, some say he didn't, some say they couldn't tell. The entire altercation took 90 seconds and that's how long it took for back up to get there. Ninety seconds had to feel like a lifetime.

Now the question is, will the DoJ go after Wilson for Civil Rights Violations? If both investigations showed the same, I don't know how they can. Then again, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure what is considered a violation of Civil Rights and what's not under the law, I mean I know the basics but in a case like this, I'm not sure what they look at. Also the family can sue Darren Wilson. It's a civil trial and I forget what they can sue for, it's like when OJ Simpson got sued by Nicole Brown's family.. He lost and had to pay out a large sum of money.
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Guarantee there will be a Civil trial, gdunn. I dont' know how they're going to try to reach that decision, but we'll see.
11-25-2014 07:47 AM
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(11-25-2014 07:47 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Guarantee there will be a Civil trial, gdunn. I dont' know how they're going to try to reach that decision, but we'll see.

They'll have to list a charge as to what Civil Rights were violated. Eric Holder (because he's still the AG) and the DoJ can't just haul Wilson into court and be vague.. They have to charge him with something.
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(11-25-2014 12:52 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:17 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  Will never understand why these idiots go after local businesses and harm their own community. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

They aren't from the community or have nothing invested in the community. Doesn't harm them.

I'm not saying you aren't correct, but isn't it telling about the cast of characters this seems to attract like flies?

I mean, "Hey, there's a possible issue about race in this town, lets go there, and if the justice system doesn't act how we want - we can loot stores and burn stuff down!" "We can probably score some TV's and shoes in the deal, there will be so much chaos they'll never catch us!!"

The above kills whatever sympathy much of the country may have had for the dead 18 year old and focuses the attention on what visually appears to be a group of people that choose to soil their own bed. I mean, can the cameras pick out who is from Ferguson and who is someone from somewhere else?
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(11-24-2014 10:41 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  How many people on this board would reach into a police car and try to grab the officer's gun if an officer pulled over to talk with you?

How many of you would commit a strong armed robbery (felony). Swisher Sweets ,.... That speaks volumes!!


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Thats why many wore those masks. They were going to inflict damage no matter the outcome and it unfortunately caught up local residents into the conflict whether or not They wanted to.
11-25-2014 08:33 AM
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Everything is going to be ok in Ferguson today. Al Sharpton is headed to town. No doubt he will calm down the law breakers with his talk.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/25/sharpt...lute-blow/
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I think last night the mayor was saying if they arrested anyone, they'd take them to the station, get their information, and release them, only to get a warrant later for a possible arrest.
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(11-25-2014 07:49 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 07:47 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Guarantee there will be a Civil trial, gdunn. I dont' know how they're going to try to reach that decision, but we'll see.

They'll have to list a charge as to what Civil Rights were violated. Eric Holder (because he's still the AG) and the DoJ can't just haul Wilson into court and be vague.. They have to charge him with something.

As much as you and I would like to believe that, "Civil Rights violations" is all they have to say and the DoJ will be "let's take it to trial".
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(11-25-2014 08:57 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I think last night the mayor was saying if they arrested anyone, they'd take them to the station, get their information, and release them, only to get a warrant later for a possible arrest.

I think that only applied to "protest" arrests, not looting type arrests

The early report said 8 arrests for "unlawful protesting" and 52 for looting. (Unfortunately, it seems that this time, the looters were the locals).
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Is This ‘Justice’? Natalie DuBose’s Cake Store Is Attacked In #Ferguson, Along With Many Other Businesses

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Justice, Ferguson style…

From Cheechakos:

Looted / Burned

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St.Louis Fish & Chicken Grill
Family Dollar
Dollar Tree
O’Reilly’s Auto Parts
Beauty Mart
A.J. & R. Pawn Shop
Walgreens
FedEx
Cakes and More [Natalie DuBose’s store]
JC Wireless
AT&T
STL Bread Company
Conoco
Auto Buy Credit
Phillips 66
McDonald’s
Red’s Barbecue
Taco Bell
CVS
Beauty Town
Little Caesar’s
Ferguson Liquor
Public Storage
Sam’s Meat Market
Medicine Shop
Commerce Bank
Auto Zone
Toys R Us
Amoco
Quiznos
Dellwood Market
Chop Suey restaurant
TitleMax
Antonio French’s Heal Stl Community Center
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(11-25-2014 12:40 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Are you serious? I'll give you a hint, it's in the title of the thread.

There are people who are exercising their right to protest and there are people looking to steal and burn stuff. Let's not confuse the two.

Try to keep up, we're talking about the protesters, NOT the looters. Now, WHY are they protesting? What for? Because they disregard all the facts about this entire thing and they think justice was unserved last night. They think Wilson should fry because he shot a black guy and he's white, and to make matters worse, he's a cop. There is no interest in facts here, I heard it with several live interviews last night.

Yeah, I'm serious.
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(11-25-2014 12:44 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  Unrelated to your argument, but I said above I'm tending to agree with the Wilson crowd, but LSU (per usual) is taking the extremist stance yet again.

Yeah, right. I took the stance that listened to facts.

I'd be willing to bet that all these folks who think the system is rigged, thought the system was right when OJ was acquitted.
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The next time a black murders a policeman, I guess we can expect riots, burning and looting.
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America has spoken! And the verdict is... no one really cares.
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(11-25-2014 09:26 AM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  America has spoken! And the verdict is... no one really cares.

I wonder if all those business owners that had nothing to do with this case, but were looted and burned out care this morning? Just look a couple of posts above yours.......
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