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(11-24-2014 04:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 03:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 01:46 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  C-USA #3? They're 0-21 vs P5 and lost 2 games to FCS schools. You should note that the ratings you're using ignore games against FCS schools. So the fact that C-USA has the worst record of any FBS conference against FCS schools isn't taken into consideration in that computer ranking. And one of those losses was to a 6-6 FCS school, ouch.

After Marshall, there are 2 teams that are clearly #2/#3 in CUSA: MTSU, who got spanked by both Memphis and BYU, and Louisiana Tech, who lost to an FCS school.

Nope. It's correct. CUSA is #2 on the list. For the longest time we were holding the #1 spot of G5's due to our record against fellow G5 schools. If memory serves me correctly, CUSA finished with a record of 16-3 against other G5 competition this season.

If CUSA was ever any higher than 3rd or 4th on any G5 list then why did it take Marshall so long to get ranked in the AP and Coaches poll? Why was a 10-0 Marshall not ranked in the CFP poll? The answer is that your conference stinks. CUSA is not a higher rated conference than the AAC and the MWC, when your conference has losses to FCS teams and no victories over higher rated P5 leagues? This is why a lot of people can't take Marshall fans seriously. You guys think that you should be ranked higher than Alabama, but you needed a miracle to beat Alabama-Birmingham.

I'd love to see a link to that quote.

Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.
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Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?
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(11-24-2014 08:21 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 04:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 03:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  Nope. It's correct. CUSA is #2 on the list. For the longest time we were holding the #1 spot of G5's due to our record against fellow G5 schools. If memory serves me correctly, CUSA finished with a record of 16-3 against other G5 competition this season.

If CUSA was ever any higher than 3rd or 4th on any G5 list then why did it take Marshall so long to get ranked in the AP and Coaches poll? Why was a 10-0 Marshall not ranked in the CFP poll? The answer is that your conference stinks. CUSA is not a higher rated conference than the AAC and the MWC, when your conference has losses to FCS teams and no victories over higher rated P5 leagues? This is why a lot of people can't take Marshall fans seriously. You guys think that you should be ranked higher than Alabama, but you needed a miracle to beat Alabama-Birmingham.

I'd love to see a link to that quote.

Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.

Click on the AAC board. Your Marshall fans are all over there telling people how you all have the greatest team since time began. You must be the only Marshall fan that can't find the AAC board.
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(11-24-2014 09:27 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 04:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 04:16 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 03:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  If CUSA was ever any higher than 3rd or 4th on any G5 list then why did it take Marshall so long to get ranked in the AP and Coaches poll? Why was a 10-0 Marshall not ranked in the CFP poll? The answer is that your conference stinks. CUSA is not a higher rated conference than the AAC and the MWC, when your conference has losses to FCS teams and no victories over higher rated P5 leagues? This is why a lot of people can't take Marshall fans seriously. You guys think that you should be ranked higher than Alabama, but you needed a miracle to beat Alabama-Birmingham.

I'd love to see a link to that quote.

Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.

Click on the AAC board. Your Marshall fans are all over there telling people how you all have the greatest team since time began. You must be the only Marshall fan that can't find the AAC board.

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(11-24-2014 08:44 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?

What's thier record against G5 teams with winning records? The beat a schistzo Houston team. Anyone else?
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(11-24-2014 10:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:44 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?

What's thier record against G5 teams with winning records? The beat a schistzo Houston team. Anyone else?

Answer my question first instead of answering a question with a question. And stop trying to make this about Houston. There are many more teams in the AAC besides Houston.
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(11-24-2014 10:03 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 09:27 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:21 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 04:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 04:16 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  I'd love to see a link to that quote.

Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.

Click on the AAC board. Your Marshall fans are all over there telling people how you all have the greatest team since time began. You must be the only Marshall fan that can't find the AAC board.

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(11-24-2014 10:38 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:44 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?

What's thier record against G5 teams with winning records? The beat a schistzo Houston team. Anyone else?

Answer my question first instead of answering a question with a question. And stop trying to make this about Houston. There are many more teams in the AAC besides Houston.

Lol....you mad bro?
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(11-24-2014 11:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:38 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:44 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?

What's thier record against G5 teams with winning records? The beat a schistzo Houston team. Anyone else?

Answer my question first instead of answering a question with a question. And stop trying to make this about Houston. There are many more teams in the AAC besides Houston.

Lol....you mad bro?

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(11-24-2014 10:19 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  Gotta love this board. It must be a "weak year" for the G5 if another conference is better than your beloved AAC. It can't just be that the AAC was overhyped... no, anything but that!

No man it's just reality.

Boise State with Kellen Moore would have blown out the Boise State team right now and you know that.

The level of play in the G5 this year is lower than it's been in recent memory. Sure you have more eligible bowl teams but there are now insanely strong G5 squads.
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(11-24-2014 10:38 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:44 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?

What's thier record against G5 teams with winning records? The beat a schistzo Houston team. Anyone else?

Answer my question first instead of answering a question with a question. And stop trying to make this about Houston. There are many more teams in the AAC besides Houston.

Selective statistics much?

This is one of the most useless statistics CUSA fans have thumped their chest about all year.

What if one conference literally played the 3 worst teams in every conference and won them all. Does that make that conference the best conference in the country?

You guys beat a bunch of terrible G5 teams congratulations. How did you do against P5 teams as a conference?

The G5 as a whole are just very weak this year.
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(11-24-2014 09:27 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:21 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 04:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 03:53 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  If CUSA was ever any higher than 3rd or 4th on any G5 list then why did it take Marshall so long to get ranked in the AP and Coaches poll? Why was a 10-0 Marshall not ranked in the CFP poll? The answer is that your conference stinks. CUSA is not a higher rated conference than the AAC and the MWC, when your conference has losses to FCS teams and no victories over higher rated P5 leagues? This is why a lot of people can't take Marshall fans seriously. You guys think that you should be ranked higher than Alabama, but you needed a miracle to beat Alabama-Birmingham.

I'd love to see a link to that quote.

Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.

Click on the AAC board. Your Marshall fans are all over there telling people how you all have the greatest team since time began. You must be the only Marshall fan that can't find the AAC board.

So you admit you're just making stuff up, right?
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(11-24-2014 03:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 12:44 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  No argument from me...the data says that the MWC is #1, CUSA #2, American #3, MAC #4 and Sunbelt in at #5 for this year.

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html

C-USA #3? They're 0-21 vs P5 and lost 2 games to FCS schools. You should note that the ratings you're using ignore games against FCS schools. So the fact that C-USA has the worst record of any FBS conference against FCS schools isn't taken into consideration in that computer ranking. And one of those losses was to a 6-6 FCS school, ouch.

After Marshall, there are 2 teams that are clearly #2/#3 in CUSA: MTSU, who got spanked by both Memphis and BYU, and Louisiana Tech, who lost to an FCS school.

Nope. It's correct. CUSA is #2 on the list. For the longest time we were holding the #1 spot of G5's due to our record against fellow G5 schools. If memory serves me correctly, CUSA finished with a record of 16-3 against other G5 competition this season.

Allow me to repeat - that list you link to doesn't count every game that was played. It doesn't count two very embarrassing losses - your 2nd best team losing to an FCS school, and a loss to a 6-6 FCS school. That guy's weird "RPI" website may have forgotten those games, but no one else has.

And your memory is selective. You were 9-0 vs the MAC and Sun Belt, and 5-3 against the AAC and MWC (with 6 of those games coming against teams with losing conference records).
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(11-25-2014 10:11 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 03:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 01:46 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 12:44 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  No argument from me...the data says that the MWC is #1, CUSA #2, American #3, MAC #4 and Sunbelt in at #5 for this year.

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html

C-USA #3? They're 0-21 vs P5 and lost 2 games to FCS schools. You should note that the ratings you're using ignore games against FCS schools. So the fact that C-USA has the worst record of any FBS conference against FCS schools isn't taken into consideration in that computer ranking. And one of those losses was to a 6-6 FCS school, ouch.

After Marshall, there are 2 teams that are clearly #2/#3 in CUSA: MTSU, who got spanked by both Memphis and BYU, and Louisiana Tech, who lost to an FCS school.

Nope. It's correct. CUSA is #2 on the list. For the longest time we were holding the #1 spot of G5's due to our record against fellow G5 schools. If memory serves me correctly, CUSA finished with a record of 16-3 against other G5 competition this season.

Allow me to repeat - that list you link to doesn't count every game that was played. It doesn't count two very embarrassing losses - your 2nd best team losing to an FCS school, and a loss to a 6-6 FCS school. That guy's weird "RPI" website may have forgotten those games, but no one else has.

And your memory is selective. You were 9-0 vs the MAC and Sun Belt, and 5-3 against the AAC and MWC (with 6 of those games coming against teams with losing conference records).

The MWC is quite a bit ahead of both CUSA and AAC right now. Marshall is better than anything AAC can put out. Memphis is better than anything else CUSA can put out. The next 3-4 from each conference match up pretty well I would think, but the AAC would probably go 3-1. The bottom of both conferences are bad, but the bottom of the AAC might be worse. It's pretty even.
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(11-25-2014 10:14 AM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 10:11 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 03:48 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 01:46 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 12:44 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  No argument from me...the data says that the MWC is #1, CUSA #2, American #3, MAC #4 and Sunbelt in at #5 for this year.

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html

C-USA #3? They're 0-21 vs P5 and lost 2 games to FCS schools. You should note that the ratings you're using ignore games against FCS schools. So the fact that C-USA has the worst record of any FBS conference against FCS schools isn't taken into consideration in that computer ranking. And one of those losses was to a 6-6 FCS school, ouch.

After Marshall, there are 2 teams that are clearly #2/#3 in CUSA: MTSU, who got spanked by both Memphis and BYU, and Louisiana Tech, who lost to an FCS school.

Nope. It's correct. CUSA is #2 on the list. For the longest time we were holding the #1 spot of G5's due to our record against fellow G5 schools. If memory serves me correctly, CUSA finished with a record of 16-3 against other G5 competition this season.

Allow me to repeat - that list you link to doesn't count every game that was played. It doesn't count two very embarrassing losses - your 2nd best team losing to an FCS school, and a loss to a 6-6 FCS school. That guy's weird "RPI" website may have forgotten those games, but no one else has.

And your memory is selective. You were 9-0 vs the MAC and Sun Belt, and 5-3 against the AAC and MWC (with 6 of those games coming against teams with losing conference records).

The MWC is quite a bit ahead of both CUSA and AAC right now. Marshall is better than anything AAC can put out. Memphis is better than anything else CUSA can put out. The next 3-4 from each conference match up pretty well I would think, but the AAC would probably go 3-1. The bottom of both conferences are bad, but the bottom of the AAC might be worse. It's pretty even.

Marshall is sort of an enigma. No one has any idea how good they are. Of every single team they played, the best win was Akron over Pitt (and Pitt has a losing record in the worst P5 division). It's hard to judge a team that hasn't had a challenge.

I agree that the bottom of the AAC is worse than the bottom of C-USA.
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(11-25-2014 08:58 AM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 09:27 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 08:21 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 04:16 PM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  I'd love to see a link to that quote.

Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.

Click on the AAC board. Your Marshall fans are all over there telling people how you all have the greatest team since time began. You must be the only Marshall fan that can't find the AAC board.

So you admit you're just making stuff up, right?

I admit that your Marshall fans are all over the AAC board telling us how great your team is. Go to the board and read their nonsense.

One of your fans even said the nonsense in this very thread. http://csnbbs.com/thread-714626-post-114...id11435831
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(11-25-2014 06:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 10:38 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 08:44 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Does anyone knows CUSA record against the other G-5 conferences this year since they are our "peers"?

What's thier record against G5 teams with winning records? The beat a schistzo Houston team. Anyone else?

Answer my question first instead of answering a question with a question. And stop trying to make this about Houston. There are many more teams in the AAC besides Houston.

Selective statistics much?

This is one of the most useless statistics CUSA fans have thumped their chest about all year.

What if one conference literally played the 3 worst teams in every conference and won them all. Does that make that conference the best conference in the country?

You guys beat a bunch of terrible G5 teams congratulations. How did you do against P5 teams as a conference?

The G5 as a whole are just very weak this year.

I will agree that it wasn't a great year for G5 vs. P5.

C-USA vs. G5 is skewed a bit because many of the games were against bad G5 teams. There were several that were against pretty decent teams as well.

For example:
Louisiana Tech 48, LA Lafayette 20 (7-4)
Southern Miss 21, Appalachian St 20 (6-5)
UTSA 27, Houston 7 (6-4)
WKU 36, Navy 27 (5-5)
WKU 59, Bowling Green 31 (7-4)

Again, there aren't a ton of "quality" wins in there, but it isn't like this was all done by 2-3 teams either. The entire conference did decent against G5 opponents. 17-4 vs. the G5 (+ Army, Navy, BYU) is not too bad a season.
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If CUSA was so much better, then wouldn't Marshall already be ranked and not have worst schedule in FBS?

You guys crack me up.
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(11-25-2014 12:42 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  If CUSA was so much better, then wouldn't Marshall already be ranked and not have worst schedule in FBS?

You guys crack me up.

Its group think in an echo chamber over there on the CUSA board. Plus their many of their mods don't really allow much room for dissenting opinions from the outside---so it becomes self reinforcing.
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(11-25-2014 11:34 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 09:27 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
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(11-24-2014 04:23 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Go over to the AAC board and you will see Marshall fans making their case as being the greatest college team of all time.

Still waiting.

Click on the AAC board. Your Marshall fans are all over there telling people how you all have the greatest team since time began. You must be the only Marshall fan that can't find the AAC board.

So you admit you're just making stuff up, right?

I admit that your Marshall fans are all over the AAC board telling us how great your team is. Go to the board and read their nonsense.

One of your fans even said the nonsense in this very thread. http://csnbbs.com/thread-714626-post-114...id11435831

I'm still missing the part where a Marshall fan says we should be ranked higher than Alabama, or where a Marshall fan says we are the greatest team since time began.

By the way, the post you linked was to a Marshall fan thinking that we were better than anyone out of the AAC. Are you really getting bent out of shape about that?
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