(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  How will the committee look at the OSU loss
1) Like the OSU/B1G haters on the board and just say - bad lass at home to an average VT team
2) Like the OSU/B1G fans on the board and note: 1) All-College QB was injured 10 days before season started, vast improvement since then, and it was the game after Navy

Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

All your whining doesn't matter. But by all means, do please continue. It is going to be so much fun around here if Ohio State gets in and yes, your tantrums wont make a bit of difference nor will your denial of the facts. The fact is Ohio State has obviously impressed the folks in that Committee and their opinions matter more than yours.

(11-24-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:29 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Assuming that all of the top six teams win out (may not be a valid assumption, but just play along), Miss State will be bumped in the final rankings by either Ohio State or Baylor, depending upon which of those teams is the more dominate in their last game.

That's silly, they win out and they are in.

Nope. Baylor didn't play last week but Ohio State's win put them ahead of Baylor.

But hey, go right ahead and ignore such factual precedents.

Baylor isn't Mississippi State. Mississippi State is what, 10-1 playing in the toughest division in the toughest conference, and their only loss is 25-20 on the road at #1 Alabama?

While Ohio State got waxed by 14 at home by a 5-6 VT team that didn't even have to play FSU or Clemson?

Keep dreaming, but bypassing Baylor is one thing, bypassing the second best SEC team will be another.

(11-24-2014 07:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 02:29 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Assuming that all of the top six teams win out (may not be a valid assumption, but just play along), Miss State will be bumped in the final rankings by either Ohio State or Baylor, depending upon which of those teams is the more dominate in their last game.

That's silly, they win out and they are in.

Nope. Baylor didn't play last week but Ohio State's win put them ahead of Baylor.

But hey, go right ahead and ignore such factual precedents.

Baylor isn't Mississippi State. Mississippi State is what, 10-1 playing in the toughest division in the toughest conference, and their only loss is 25-20 on the road at #1 Alabama?

While Ohio State got waxed by 14 at home by a 5-6 VT team that didn't even have to play FSU or Clemson?

Keep dreaming, but bypassing Baylor is one thing, bypassing the second best SEC team will be another.

I'm not dreaming, I'm laughing. Ohio State hasn't even gotten in yet and people like you are already losing your mind. It's beautiful.

Keep on ignoring the facts surrounding Ohio State's loss to VT. You are doing such because it is expedient for your argument. That doesn't make it right, that makes it flawed. The Committee says so.

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  How will the committee look at the OSU loss
1) Like the OSU/B1G haters on the board and just say - bad lass at home to an average VT team
2) Like the OSU/B1G fans on the board and note: 1) All-College QB was injured 10 days before season started, vast improvement since then, and it was the game after Navy

Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

They have a #6 ranking by the Committee. That is all they need. Thank you for being wrong so often in this regard.

(11-24-2014 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  How will the committee look at the OSU loss
1) Like the OSU/B1G haters on the board and just say - bad lass at home to an average VT team
2) Like the OSU/B1G fans on the board and note: 1) All-College QB was injured 10 days before season started, vast improvement since then, and it was the game after Navy

Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

All your whining doesn't matter. But by all means, do please continue. It is going to be so much fun around here if Ohio State gets in and yes, your tantrums wont make a bit of difference nor will your denial of the facts. The fact is Ohio State has obviously impressed the folks in that Committee and their opinions matter more than yours.

Funny how you failed to actually point out any facts that I "denied". Probably because you know I didn't actually deny any. All I did was poke a vast hole in your pro-Ohio State wishful thinking.

And i did it with uncomfortable ... facts.

(11-24-2014 07:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  How will the committee look at the OSU loss
1) Like the OSU/B1G haters on the board and just say - bad lass at home to an average VT team
2) Like the OSU/B1G fans on the board and note: 1) All-College QB was injured 10 days before season started, vast improvement since then, and it was the game after Navy

Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

All your whining doesn't matter. But by all means, do please continue. It is going to be so much fun around here if Ohio State gets in and yes, your tantrums wont make a bit of difference nor will your denial of the facts. The fact is Ohio State has obviously impressed the folks in that Committee and their opinions matter more than yours.

Funny how you failed to actually point out any facts that I "denied". Probably because you know I didn't actually deny any. All I did was poke a vast hole in your pro-Ohio State wishful thinking.

And i did it with uncomfortable ... facts.

Nope, I have the facts. You don't. The Committee says so. Funny how you cant disprove that. You can try to say you have but you havn't.

This isn't uncomfortable for me at all. It is delicious.

(11-24-2014 07:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  How will the committee look at the OSU loss
1) Like the OSU/B1G haters on the board and just say - bad lass at home to an average VT team
2) Like the OSU/B1G fans on the board and note: 1) All-College QB was injured 10 days before season started, vast improvement since then, and it was the game after Navy

Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

They have a #6 ranking by the Committee. That is all they need. Thank you for being wrong so often in this regard.

Sorry, but #6 isn't #4. That's what they need. We'll see if they get there, but I'm betting it doesn't happen unless MSS loses another game. Why should it?

And haven't you learned not to tangle with me? You always end up with a pie in the face.

(11-24-2014 07:47 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:14 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  How will the committee look at the OSU loss
1) Like the OSU/B1G haters on the board and just say - bad lass at home to an average VT team
2) Like the OSU/B1G fans on the board and note: 1) All-College QB was injured 10 days before season started, vast improvement since then, and it was the game after Navy

Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

They have a #6 ranking by the Committee. That is all they need. Thank you for being wrong so often in this regard.

Sorry, but #6 isn't #4. That's what they need. We'll see if they get there, but I'm betting it doesn't happen unless MSS loses another game. Why should it?

And haven't you learned not to tangle with me? You always end up with a pie in the face.

Oh no, he is so tough with his made up BS that always seems to go against the actions of the Committee.

Ohio State passed up Baylor when Baylor didn't play. They will do the same to MSU and TCU. It is so cute how you seem to try to keep track of you and me. I don't. I guess that says it all.

(11-24-2014 07:46 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:31 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Welcome to my world, trying to insert a little rational thought to the process around here. Good luck.

It's pretty obvious by Ohio State jumping past Baylor that the Committee has taken into account the actual facts involved in Ohio State's loss.

Don't bother trying to help some of these folks reach a more enlightened intelligence state of mind. It just isn't possible.

The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

All your whining doesn't matter. But by all means, do please continue. It is going to be so much fun around here if Ohio State gets in and yes, your tantrums wont make a bit of difference nor will your denial of the facts. The fact is Ohio State has obviously impressed the folks in that Committee and their opinions matter more than yours.

Funny how you failed to actually point out any facts that I "denied". Probably because you know I didn't actually deny any. All I did was poke a vast hole in your pro-Ohio State wishful thinking.

And i did it with uncomfortable ... facts.

Nope, I have the facts.

What facts? If Ohio State was #4 right now and MSS #6, well that would be a big fact indicating that the committee intends to put Ohio State in the playoffs if both teams win out.

But guess what? That's not the way it is! It's the exact opposite of that!

Also, you keep claiming "facts", but you fail to name them. Do you seriously think anyone is going to believe that OSU starting JT Barrett in that game is some massively important circumstance that justifies getting trounced at home by a 5-6 team?

Heck, FSU played Clemson, a far better team than VT, without Jameis, and they won anyway!

And FSU did that with about 3 days notice. Barrett became the starter two weeks before the season started, and he played very well in the Navy game to open the season. He had plenty of reps to get ready for VT, and VT smashed him!

Sorry, but no JT Barrett sob story is going to miracle you past Mississippi State. Prepare to be disappointed.

(11-24-2014 07:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:46 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:40 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The "actual fact" is that VT has turned out to be an awful team to lose to. They aren't "average", they SUCK. They are what, 5-6 playing in the soft ACC, and they haven't even had to face FSU or Clemson, easily the two best ACC teams? It's laughable.

And who has Ohio State shown "vast improvement" against? A bunch of soft B1G teams? They needed double OT to beat Penn State! Hello ...

They have nothing OOC to back up this "vast improvement" claim. Zilch.

All your whining doesn't matter. But by all means, do please continue. It is going to be so much fun around here if Ohio State gets in and yes, your tantrums wont make a bit of difference nor will your denial of the facts. The fact is Ohio State has obviously impressed the folks in that Committee and their opinions matter more than yours.

Funny how you failed to actually point out any facts that I "denied". Probably because you know I didn't actually deny any. All I did was poke a vast hole in your pro-Ohio State wishful thinking.

And i did it with uncomfortable ... facts.

Nope, I have the facts.

What facts? If Ohio State was #4 right now and MSS #6, well that would be a big fact indicating that the committee intends to put Ohio State in the playoffs if both teams win out.

But guess what? That's not the way it is! It's the exact opposite of that!

Also, you keep claiming "facts", but you fail to name them. Do you seriously think anyone is going to believe that OSU starting JT Barrett in that game is some massively important circumstance that justifies getting trounced at home by a 5-6 team?

Heck, FSU played Clemson, a far better team than VT, without Jameis, and they won anyway!

And FSU did that with about 3 days notice. Barrett became the starter two weeks before the season started, and he played very well in the Navy game to open the season. He had plenty of reps to get ready for VT, and VT smashed him!

Sorry, but no JT Barrett sob story is going to miracle you past Mississippi State. Prepare to be disappointed.

Wow, it took you that long to come up with all that despite having already said all that already? Are you impressed with yourself?

Ohio State passed Baylor when Baylor didn't play. Ohio State's win over Wisconsin will earn them the same action over TCU and MSU.

You can deny that all you want and type as much as you want but that little tiny yet very significant fact ruins everything that you have to say.

Baylor beat TCU, Ohio State passed them up. They have plenty of time to move from #6 to #4. To deny that is to show just how pathetically desperate you are to "win" these arguments.

It is especially sad when it is so simple for me to repeat the same thing over and over in order to completely unravel your argument.

Enjoy the pie, I will enjoy my

(11-24-2014 08:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Ohio State passed Baylor when Baylor didn't play. Ohio State's win over Wisconsin will earn them the same action over TCU and MSU.

You seriously think Ohio State beating Wisconsin is going to get them past TCU, much less Mississippi State?

You do realize that Wisconsin was beaten on a neutral field by LSU, a team that MSS beat and a team that has lost so many SEC West games they have dropped completely from the rankings, right?

And yet the committee is going to be so impressed by an OSU win over Wisconsin (!!!) that they will vault them past TCU and MSS?

All because they moved them past Baylor?

(11-24-2014 08:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 08:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Ohio State passed Baylor when Baylor didn't play. Ohio State's win over Wisconsin will earn them the same action over TCU and MSU.

You seriously think Ohio State beating Wisconsin is going to get them past TCU, much less Mississippi State?

You do realize that Wisconsin was beaten on a neutral field by LSU, a team that MSS beat and a team that has lost so many SEC West games they have dropped completely from the rankings, right?

And yet the committee is going to be so impressed by an OSU win over Wisconsin (!!!) that they will vault them past TCU and MSS?

All because they moved them past Baylor?

Yep.

I love how you are now cropping single lines out of my posts in order to only respond to that. Very weak. Very very weak. So very weak. You are so very weak.








Weak.

Some of these statements in this thread are ridiculous. VT didn't "blow out" OSU. I was at the game, the game was in question until the pick 6. The VT team that beat OSU isn't the same one playing now. I think there have been something like 22 injuries. VT could probably have been considered above average at the beginning of the season but they are horrible now.

(11-24-2014 08:38 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Some of these statements in this thread are ridiculous. VT didn't "blow out" OSU. I was at the game, the game was in question until the pick 6. The VT team that beat OSU isn't the same one playing now. I think there have been something like 22 injuries. VT could probably have been considered above average at the beginning of the season but they are horrible now.

LIES!

Get back in line with the properly approved Anti Big Ten rhetoric. Do you not consider yourself a proper Southern Gentleman?

This is War damn it!!!! We must win!!!!


Sorry....I ate some of Quo's pie. Some really bad stuff.


For the record, the Ohio State team that played in that game is not the same Ohio State team that is playing now.

(11-24-2014 08:38 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Some of these statements in this thread are ridiculous. VT didn't "blow out" OSU. I was at the game, the game was in question until the pick 6. The VT team that beat OSU isn't the same one playing now. I think there have been something like 22 injuries. VT could probably have been considered above average at the beginning of the season but they are horrible now.

That's true across the whole country, and it is something a lot of people forget.

You take away a team's motivation and they don't play as well.

(11-24-2014 08:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 08:38 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Some of these statements in this thread are ridiculous. VT didn't "blow out" OSU. I was at the game, the game was in question until the pick 6. The VT team that beat OSU isn't the same one playing now. I think there have been something like 22 injuries. VT could probably have been considered above average at the beginning of the season but they are horrible now.

That's true across the whole country, and it is something a lot of people forget.

You take away a team's motivation and they don't play as well.

To anyone that has actually played the game, they understand the human factor to the game. The mental side of the game matters more than the physical.

(11-24-2014 08:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 08:38 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Some of these statements in this thread are ridiculous. VT didn't "blow out" OSU. I was at the game, the game was in question until the pick 6. The VT team that beat OSU isn't the same one playing now. I think there have been something like 22 injuries. VT could probably have been considered above average at the beginning of the season but they are horrible now.

LIES!

Get back in line with the properly approved Anti Big Ten rhetoric. Do you not consider yourself a proper Southern Gentleman?

This is War damn it!!!! We must win!!!!


Sorry....I ate some of Quo's pie. Some really bad stuff.


For the record, the Ohio State team that played in that game is not the same Ohio State team that is playing now.

H1 I am both shocked and disturbed by the mental picture of you eating Quo's pie! I don't know whether to warn you or hurl?

(11-24-2014 09:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 08:41 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 08:38 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Some of these statements in this thread are ridiculous. VT didn't "blow out" OSU. I was at the game, the game was in question until the pick 6. The VT team that beat OSU isn't the same one playing now. I think there have been something like 22 injuries. VT could probably have been considered above average at the beginning of the season but they are horrible now.

LIES!

Get back in line with the properly approved Anti Big Ten rhetoric. Do you not consider yourself a proper Southern Gentleman?

This is War damn it!!!! We must win!!!!


Sorry....I ate some of Quo's pie. Some really bad stuff.


For the record, the Ohio State team that played in that game is not the same Ohio State team that is playing now.

H1 I am both shocked and disturbed by the metal picture of you eating Quo's pie! I don't know whether to warn you or hurl?

I think you should hurl. I know I sure did.

(11-24-2014 07:26 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 03:10 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  TCU has no chance after the KU game.

Really shortsighted on your part to believe that considering they only dropped one spot after that game. TCU's resume is still better than Baylor regardless of the head to head.

If they both win out and BU beats KSU the Frogs won't have any argument that merits ignoring head to head. I will be shocked if TCU stays ahead of Baylor when it's all said and done.