(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Most here (most, maybe not all) would be ecstatic with a win and would be singing a much different tune if the Tigers perform great this season. Nobody WANTS Pastner to fail, he's too likable. But being a nice guy won't buy you a cup of coffee.

Jury is out til March though, as it should be.

(11-17-2014 09:44 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

Firing Pastner if he has a bad season would kill our athletic department?

I am talking about the impulses to can anyone the minute you feel a little trouble. People were talking about canning Fuente during the off season.

(11-17-2014 09:47 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:44 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

Firing Pastner if he has a bad season would kill our athletic department?

I am talking about the impulses to can anyone the minute you feel a little trouble. People were talking about canning Fuente during the off season.

I never heard anyone say anything of the sort about Fuente.

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

(11-17-2014 09:47 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:44 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

Firing Pastner if he has a bad season would kill our athletic department?

I am talking about the impulses to can anyone the minute you feel a little trouble. People were talking about canning Fuente during the off season.

Signs? There have been years worth of signs.

I guess everyone sees what they want to see.

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

?

(11-17-2014 09:48 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:47 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:44 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

Firing Pastner if he has a bad season would kill our athletic department?

I am talking about the impulses to can anyone the minute you feel a little trouble. People were talking about canning Fuente during the off season.

I never heard anyone say anything of the sort about Fuente.

It was there after our 2 blowout at the end of the year. I am not pulling this out of thin air.

(11-17-2014 09:50 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

?

Aren't

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

Finch was canned after 1 bad season and honestly that "Bad" season he may have won the new C-USA Josh started in...He did finish tied for 1st in his division...Hell he went 5-0 vs. ranked teams that season.

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

It wouldn't be after "one bad season", because he hasnt had a great season yet. Mediocre is all that he has done. No the ten newcomers are not anywhere near Kentucky level recruits.

(11-17-2014 09:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

Finch was canned after 1 bad season.

Wasn't Finch's health declining?

(11-17-2014 09:52 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

It wouldn't be after "one bad season", because he hasnt had a great season yet. Mediocre is all that he has done. No the ten newcomers are not anywhere near Kentucky level recruits.

I meant aren't dude. You are also unrealistic and am glad you make no important decisions over things like what's best for a program because you are built for it.

(11-17-2014 09:56 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:52 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

It wouldn't be after "one bad season", because he hasnt had a great season yet. Mediocre is all that he has done. No the ten newcomers are not anywhere near Kentucky level recruits.

I meant aren't dude. You are also unrealistic and am glad you make no important decisions over things like what's best for a program because you are built for it.

Ok. Hey have a nice day.

That buyout tho ...$2.65M x 4 = $10.6M

Link: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/pas...on-year-ne

"Dismissing Pastner solely because of the team's performance would be costly for the U of M. The Tigers would owe Pastner the balance of his contract — as many as four full seasons' salary, if he's dismissed before the date the contract automatically renews — if they wished to part with him."

(11-17-2014 09:57 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:56 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:52 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

It wouldn't be after "one bad season", because he hasnt had a great season yet. Mediocre is all that he has done. No the ten newcomers are not anywhere near Kentucky level recruits.

I meant aren't dude. You are also unrealistic and am glad you make no important decisions over things like what's best for a program because you are built for it.

Ok. Hey have a nice day.

About time you sit down

(11-17-2014 09:53 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:49 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:46 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.

To fire the guy after 1 bad season is stupid. He has 10 newcomers and they are Kentucky level recruits

Finch was canned after 1 bad season.

Wasn't Finch's health declining?

Revisionist history there...

The fans turned on Finch. They didn't care/know about his health.

(11-17-2014 09:38 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:34 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

Why do you post things that make no sense?

Really? Why was Finch fired? Tell me.

Forgive me hero from way the heck over there, I do not want to waste my time talking about a friend of mine with someone I have zero respect for.

I have now asked you 3 legitimate basketball questions. You refuse to answer any of them, because you apparently have no time to waste. The "funny" thing is that you make 100 posts a day and have plenty of time to waste.

1. How many years in the last 15 have we had a home schedule with more than 2 ranked teams scheduled?

2. Explain how there is "more to it" than losing an exhibition game

3. Explain why Finch was fired when he had an 80% success rate getting us to the tournament

Or...you can continue to show that you are only interested in arguing. Your call.

(11-17-2014 09:59 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  That buyout tho ...$2.65M x 4 = $10.6M

Link: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/pas...on-year-ne

"Dismissing Pastner solely because of the team's performance would be costly for the U of M. The Tigers would owe Pastner the balance of his contract — as many as four full seasons' salary, if he's dismissed before the date the contract automatically renews — if they wished to part with him."

I think it's also a fairly shallow pool of people that you would bring in to replace him. Coach K ain't happening in Memphis, no matter what.

(11-17-2014 09:37 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  The NCAA Tournament is what matters. Not exhibition games.

I don't care who you are recruiting or who you're losing to, if you're making NCAA Tournaments at Memphis you're not getting fired.

Then your op is a shaky premise.

Getting run out of the building the second game of the tourney by teams you were ranked equal or better at the beginning of the season isn't good. Same for losing to St. Louis.

If he was half the man some here think he is he would resign at the end of the year if they field a losing team.

I mean with all the character he has and all.