Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Josh probably is not gone after this season but to say it is impossible due to his performance is not true.

They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

If Pastner doesn't perform well this year, I think he will be gone.

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

For many here on this board, their expectations are very low. Which is very sad to me.

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

Why do you post things that make no sense?

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

You tell me...

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

You're basing this on all the prior seasons. If he was going to get fired because of those numbers, then he would've been canned in April. It's November now.

People are talking because of what could be in the works THIS season. Ultimately, what this season holds is unknown, but what we've seen so far is troubling. A team that struggled in just about every one of its exhibition games. Plus, we saw a top 5 prospect that Josh has been after for 4 years pick a different team. There were extenuating circumstances, but Pastner's recruiting was depending on Skal being here.

If things go South this season (and when you lose 4 of 6 exhibition games, things can go South in a bad way), and his recruiting continues to dip, Pastner's seat will not be cool. That's just the harsh reality of it all. I hope it doesn't happen, but I can't sugarcoat it for you.

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

(11-17-2014 09:34 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

You tell me...

You just said that the 80% argument fails. That's the entire story with Finch? Fired just like that for no reason?

(11-17-2014 09:34 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

Why do you post things that make no sense?

Really? Why was Finch fired? Tell me.

(11-17-2014 09:35 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

You're basing this on all the prior seasons. If he was going to get fired because of those numbers, then he would've been canned in April. It's November now.

People are talking because of what could be in the works THIS season. Ultimately, what this season holds is unknown, but what we've seen so far is troubling. A team that struggled in just about every one of its exhibition games. Plus, we saw a top 5 prospect that Josh has been after for 4 years pick a different team. There were extenuating circumstances, but Pastner's recruiting was depending on Skal being here.

If things go South this season (and when you lose 4 of 6 exhibition games, things can go South in a bad way), and his recruiting continues to dip, Pastner's seat will not be cool. That's just the harsh reality of it all. I hope it doesn't happen, but I can't sugarcoat it for you.

The NCAA Tournament is what matters. Not exhibition games.

I don't care who you are recruiting or who you're losing to, if you're making NCAA Tournaments at Memphis you're not getting fired.

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

For many here on this board, their expectations are very low. Which is very sad to me.

Why instigate? I am pissed about the CBU game but I believe this team will be fine. It takes a few games. We aren't going to be world beaters out the gate. You are better than that Joe1

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:34 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

Why do you post things that make no sense?

Really? Why was Finch fired? Tell me.

Forgive me hero from way the heck over there, I do not want to waste my time talking about a friend of mine with someone I have zero respect for.

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:34 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:33 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:29 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:26 AM)memphis mania Wrote:  Here's why - He is the most successful coach in Memphis Tiger basketball history in taking the team to the NCAA Tournament. That's 4 out 5 years (the last 4 in a row) which is a success rate of 80%. No other coach in Memphis history can say that, and no other coach in the country will get fired with that success rate except for possibly a couple blue blood schools.

So, to those of you that want him gone - Taking a basketball team to the NCAA Tournament at an 80% clip DOES NOT GET YOU FIRED at Memphis. You're wasting energy, and fighting a battle you will never win anytime soon.

Finch got fired immediately after taking his team to 4 out of 5 NCAA tourneys (80%) and those included an Elite 8 and Sweet 16...

Then he had an NIT season and he hit the door...Sorry but that argument fails even using Memphis history as an example, unless you are saying that our expectations are no longer that high.

Why did Finch get fired?

You tell me...

You just said that the 80% argument fails. That's the entire story with Finch? Fired just like that for no reason?

High level was to ensure the future of the program...Same argument applies to Pastner...To protect the future of the Program...I don't care how many players you bring in if you cant win with them they will quit coming.

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

Firing Pastner if he has a bad season would kill our athletic department?

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I agree the business and the politics may not work out if Pastner crashes and burns this season, there are a lot more things to consider other than wins and losses.

But hey it may be a moot point...Honestly I have no idea what to expect from this team. Too many unknowns and we also have a new coach that may be able to affect things.

(11-17-2014 09:42 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:36 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:31 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  They aren't even letting the season play out. This team could surprise tmr and I don't mean win. They could give the Shockers a challenged.

Oh yes I am letting the whole season play out. I said we will win on Tue. But I am also saying if he doesn't have a good season this year we should make a change, clearly I'm not alone.

You are part of a very insignificant minority that believes that train of thought. If you were an AD you would kill our athletic program in 3 months. Not many smart choices on your part. So many variables to weigh out, fans like the "Fire Pastner Bunch" are shortsighted

I disagree with all of your post. First off, the season hasn't played out. I do not want to fire him before the season has played out. If he has a successful year this year his job is safe. All of the "if you were AD bla bla" makes no sense.