Rankings don't mean anything until the last game is played. Marshall has dominated their schedule of weak teams. I really never looked at your schedule until today but MTSU is your best win all the others are bottom 25 in FBS. Rice is by far the best team you will have played this year. Beat them and UAB should bring a little respect. Lose to either and ECU and the AAK guys are going to have so much fun at your expense it won't even be funny.

I wouldn't worry about Tech and what Hogdog taunts. We are a long 3 weeks away from knowing our fate.

(11-09-2014 10:52 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Ive learned its mostly hogdawg that is the delusional tech fan. I think most others are level headed and understand they don't belong in the SEC.

From a fair point of view: I think you are the herd version of hogdawg :) now don't hate.

(11-10-2014 10:26 AM)NanoDawg Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 10:52 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Ive learned its mostly hogdawg that is the delusional tech fan. I think most others are level headed and understand they don't belong in the SEC.

From a fair point of view: I think you are the herd version of hogdawg :) now don't hate.

I was just thinking the same thing!

HogDawg is your version of goherd24.

(11-10-2014 10:30 AM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 10:26 AM)NanoDawg Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 10:52 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Ive learned its mostly hogdawg that is the delusional tech fan. I think most others are level headed and understand they don't belong in the SEC.

From a fair point of view: I think you are the herd version of hogdawg :) now don't hate.

I was just thinking the same thing!

HogDawg is your version of goherd24.

I love HogDawg to death - he is actually one of our fun posters (if you understand him)

(11-10-2014 09:42 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I wouldn't worry about Tech and what Hogdog taunts. We are a long 3 weeks away from knowing our fate.

You know people are paranoid when HogDawg states FACTS, and suddenly I'm accused of "taunts". When did FACTS become TAUNTS?

Re-read the thread if you must. But it won't change the FACTS. To date, LA Tech has played a schedule of teams that have complied 46 wins, while Marshall has played teams that have compiled 29 wins. PERIOD. Those are the FACTS. And THAT'S why Marshall's NATIONAL poll numbers suck.

Keep up the good work, Herd. A lot of jealousy here I see...

(11-10-2014 02:31 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 09:42 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  I wouldn't worry about Tech and what Hogdog taunts. We are a long 3 weeks away from knowing our fate.

You know people are paranoid when HogDawg states FACTS, and suddenly I'm accused of "taunts". When did FACTS become TAUNTS?

Re-read the thread if you must. But it won't change the FACTS. To date, LA Tech has played a schedule of teams that have complied 46 wins, while Marshall has played teams that have compiled 29 wins. PERIOD. Those are the FACTS. And THAT'S why Marshall's NATIONAL poll numbers suck.

Cool.

(11-09-2014 05:04 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 02:31 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  So what? They don't have winning records now and likely will not...and you didn't BEAT any of the P5 teams...Is your schedule stronger??? Yes...but it has no bearing on the quality of a team however...

I disagree. First, you were wrong about the number of teams on LA Tech's schedule that have winning records that LA Tech has beaten. Secondly, if we compare both schools' 2014 schedules thru the first 10 games, the fact that LA Tech's opponents have won 46 games total, while Marshall's opponents have only won 35 (and that includes giving you the Rice game) it's a huge indicator that Marshall hasn't played a schedule near as tough as Tech's. Then again, we already KNEW that.

If you can't see that, you need to buy some glasses.

Comprehend much??

Even I don't like us after reading some of the smack talk on here. Just not my cup of tea.

I have been very pleased with how we are playing this year. I was pretty critical of Holtz after last year, but this year he has lived up to my expectations. There are a lot of Tech fans who think we have become some kind of juggernaut. I just don't see it. I'm happy and I'm impressed, but we haven't exactly set the world on fire either. We beat UTEP who barely has a winning record and may not make a bowl game, and ULL who is feasting on the sunbelt, basically an fcs schedule. We also lost to an FCS team. I certainly don't think Marshall is unbeatable, but can we calm ourselves just a bit before we.

I have honestly stopped posting as much because I don't want to rain on Tech fans parade as everyone pats themselves on the back and the Holtz defenders say they were right about him. I really am happy with our performance, but I won't be truly impressed until we beat Marshall or beat a decent team in a bowl game.

What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

(11-10-2014 02:48 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 05:04 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 02:31 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  So what? They don't have winning records now and likely will not...and you didn't BEAT any of the P5 teams...Is your schedule stronger??? Yes...but it has no bearing on the quality of a team however...

I disagree. First, you were wrong about the number of teams on LA Tech's schedule that have winning records that LA Tech has beaten. Secondly, if we compare both schools' 2014 schedules thru the first 10 games, the fact that LA Tech's opponents have won 46 games total, while Marshall's opponents have only won 35 (and that includes giving you the Rice game) it's a huge indicator that Marshall hasn't played a schedule near as tough as Tech's. Then again, we already KNEW that.

If you can't see that, you need to buy some glasses.

Comprehend much??

It's TRUE! It's a FACT!Do you want to compare official "Strength of Schedule"? Surely even you aren't THAT stupid.

(11-10-2014 03:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

Marshall's little BROTHER speaks again!!! I guess he can't speak for his own team. You should really worry about your own team.

MTPiKAPP, I noticed you didn't include the fact that LA Tech was playing at Auburn and OU while Marshall was playing at Rhode Island and at MAC schools. And don 't say it doesn't matter. It matters.

Look dude..I don't know why you are so mentally arthritic... I conceded SOS... I'm just saying that it really has no bearing on how good a team really is... if we were scraping by..I'd grant you some credence to your argument...but we're faced with adversity..and getting everyone's best shot...psychologically...that's huge... I'm not saying you guys aren't good..you are..you're a solid team..
But a FACT is that you haven't beaten a p5 AND lost to FCS! you should not be ranked ahead of us..sorry...oh..by the way...the experts agree...FACT

(11-10-2014 07:15 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 03:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

Marshall's little BROTHER speaks again!!! I guess he can't speak for his own team. You should really worry about your own team.

MTPiKAPP, I noticed you didn't include the fact that LA Tech was playing at Auburn and OU while Marshall was playing at Rhode Island and at MAC schools. And don 't say it doesn't matter. It matters.

It doesn't matter.

I didn't include any of your losses, just the combined records of the teams you've beaten and the combined records of the FBS teams Marshall has beaten. How does having played OU and Auburn make you quantifiably better? Or how does Marshall having not played them make them quantifiably worse?

(11-10-2014 11:05 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:15 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 03:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

Marshall's little BROTHER speaks again!!! I guess he can't speak for his own team. You should really worry about your own team.

MTPiKAPP, I noticed you didn't include the fact that LA Tech was playing at Auburn and OU while Marshall was playing at Rhode Island and at MAC schools. And don 't say it doesn't matter. It matters.

It doesn't matter.

I didn't include any of your losses, just the combined records of the teams you've beaten and the combined records of the FBS teams Marshall has beaten. How does having played OU and Auburn make you quantifiably better? Or how does Marshall having not played them make them quantifiably worse?

It absolutely matters, little brother. It's a very material difference in the two schedules that drastically affects the outcome of one teams season versus the others. All things being equal, you don't think a team suffers more injuries and has a much more physical game against TOP 5 teams like Auburn and OU than they do against a Rhode Island, Ohio and the MAC schools? This is EXACTLY the challenge your big brother school is facing right now in the national polls and media, where its' having trouble garnering respect. That's a fact and you know it.

(11-10-2014 09:30 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Look dude..I don't know why you are so mentally arthritic... I conceded SOS... I'm just saying that it really has no bearing on how good a team really is... if we were scraping by..I'd grant you some credence to your argument...but we're faced with adversity..and getting everyone's best shot...psychologically...that's huge... I'm not saying you guys aren't good..you are..you're a solid team..
But a FACT is that you haven't beaten a p5 AND lost to FCS! you should not be ranked ahead of us..sorry...oh..by the way...the experts agree...FACT

And how are you going to feel when you lose to a school that lost to an FCS school?

Face it dude, it's all upside for LA Tech. We weren't "supposed" to be here this year. But we are, and you've got to deal with it.

(11-11-2014 12:27 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:05 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:15 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 03:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

Marshall's little BROTHER speaks again!!! I guess he can't speak for his own team. You should really worry about your own team.

MTPiKAPP, I noticed you didn't include the fact that LA Tech was playing at Auburn and OU while Marshall was playing at Rhode Island and at MAC schools. And don 't say it doesn't matter. It matters.

It doesn't matter.

I didn't include any of your losses, just the combined records of the teams you've beaten and the combined records of the FBS teams Marshall has beaten. How does having played OU and Auburn make you quantifiably better? Or how does Marshall having not played them make them quantifiably worse?

It absolutely matters, little brother. It's a very material difference in the two schedules that drastically affects the outcome of one teams season versus the others. All things being equal, you don't think a team suffers more injuries and has a much more physical game against TOP 5 teams like Auburn and OU than they do against a Rhode Island, Ohio and the MAC schools? This is EXACTLY the challenge your big brother school is facing right now in the national polls and media, where its' having trouble garnering respect. That's a fact and you know it.

Where we rank nationally won't keep us from winning CUSA.. The only ones who can do that are Rice, UAB, WKU, and then maybe you guys.. That's my concern being the best team in this conference.. I'll worry about where we are in the national pecking order after that.

(11-11-2014 12:38 AM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(11-11-2014 12:27 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:05 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:15 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 03:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

Marshall's little BROTHER speaks again!!! I guess he can't speak for his own team. You should really worry about your own team.

MTPiKAPP, I noticed you didn't include the fact that LA Tech was playing at Auburn and OU while Marshall was playing at Rhode Island and at MAC schools. And don 't say it doesn't matter. It matters.

It doesn't matter.

I didn't include any of your losses, just the combined records of the teams you've beaten and the combined records of the FBS teams Marshall has beaten. How does having played OU and Auburn make you quantifiably better? Or how does Marshall having not played them make them quantifiably worse?

It absolutely matters, little brother. It's a very material difference in the two schedules that drastically affects the outcome of one teams season versus the others. All things being equal, you don't think a team suffers more injuries and has a much more physical game against TOP 5 teams like Auburn and OU than they do against a Rhode Island, Ohio and the MAC schools? This is EXACTLY the challenge your big brother school is facing right now in the national polls and media, where its' having trouble garnering respect. That's a fact and you know it.

Where we rank nationally won't keep us from winning CUSA.. The only ones who can do that are Rice, UAB, WKU, and then maybe you guys.. That's my concern being the best team in this conference.. I'll worry about where we are in the national pecking order after that.

I think that's a very reasonable response. A healthy response. But, be careful. You are proving there is intelligent life in Herdville.

(11-11-2014 12:27 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 11:05 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 07:15 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 03:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 02:50 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  What is our opponents win comparison if you only count the teams we have beaten?

Tech's seven wins are a combined 28-37 or an average record of 4-5.3

Marshall's eight(FBS) wins are a combined 29-49 or an average record of of 3.6-6.1.

Marshall's little BROTHER speaks again!!! I guess he can't speak for his own team. You should really worry about your own team.

MTPiKAPP, I noticed you didn't include the fact that LA Tech was playing at Auburn and OU while Marshall was playing at Rhode Island and at MAC schools. And don 't say it doesn't matter. It matters.

It doesn't matter.

I didn't include any of your losses, just the combined records of the teams you've beaten and the combined records of the FBS teams Marshall has beaten. How does having played OU and Auburn make you quantifiably better? Or how does Marshall having not played them make them quantifiably worse?

It absolutely matters, little brother. It's a very material difference in the two schedules that drastically affects the outcome of one teams season versus the others. All things being equal, you don't think a team suffers more injuries and has a much more physical game against TOP 5 teams like Auburn and OU than they do against a Rhode Island, Ohio and the MAC schools? If not, your insane, and we might as well drop the conversation now.

ah, the negative residual effect.....yeah, that absolutely matters but doesn't define the talent that marshall puts on the field and doesn't defy what most thought before the season....in other words, most predicted the schedule was in their favor.....however, winning out along with taking the cc is another matter.....they have proved worthy to date....

I think most would agree the herd would probably lose to ou and aub, but then again, who knows unless those games are played....toss in the tech loss to northwestern state in Ruston?????? well that tosses in an entire other caveat into the mixture of worthiness.....

I'm personally looking forward to seeing a tech/herd finale....it's in the best interest of the conference right now (which is all that matters in the ME world of defining success)

I'll give props to whoever wins and won't pitch a fit about
'tech stole money from the conference' if they win...of course, that's assuming the herd can get past rice and uab and tech takes the west

it's funny.....the simple things that I care about now and am willing to acknowledge.....sad funny it is....

I absolutely ******* hate what I saw trending in college athletics when I joined this board.....the greedy ******* have taken something away from me that I really enjoyed (the beginning of realignment immediately roasted our (usm and cusa) nuts and fried the 'doing more with less' moniker)

I don't expect sympathy, but it's unrealistic for any southern miss/cusa school to expect anything other than above avg/similar d2 talent moving forward.....we missed the boat a few years ago and I'm still not sold that we could've bought a ticket then....

reference the unrealistic expectations of those moving to the akkkkk....what a cf that has already turned out to be (nobody saw that coming)

there was a small window of opportunity before we were labeled g5....they almost got it with mwc/cusa thingy.....


it's just damn depressing how the aptly labeled g5 leadership has dropped the ball over the last few years...

the g5 deserves everything in meaning at this point.....they just bent over and let it happen.....******* ********...

have said it many times.....it's nothing more than juco at this point.....don't kid yourself....every recruit thinks the same thing.....

class division is the norm.....in other words, it won't matter who wins or goes to the access bowl.....the name itself implies mediocrity.....I don't know anyone with a sac hanging that is okay with that.....

disclaimer: I know, I know....but I'm just being me right now and had to post this....

(11-11-2014 12:36 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(11-10-2014 09:30 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Look dude..I don't know why you are so mentally arthritic... I conceded SOS... I'm just saying that it really has no bearing on how good a team really is... if we were scraping by..I'd grant you some credence to your argument...but we're faced with adversity..and getting everyone's best shot...psychologically...that's huge... I'm not saying you guys aren't good..you are..you're a solid team..
But a FACT is that you haven't beaten a p5 AND lost to FCS! you should not be ranked ahead of us..sorry...oh..by the way...the experts agree...FACT

And how are you going to feel when you lose to a school that lost to an FCS school?

Face it dude, it's all upside for LA Tech. We weren't "supposed" to be here this year. But we are, and you've got to deal with it.

Let's all sing it together.... "Dream. Dream dream dream....Dream, dream dream dream..." Love the Everly Brothers

Hmmm...Don't think anyone ever said we wouldn't "deal" with you leading the division...Congratulations... No one ever said LT wasn't solid...I don't know why you can't get that through your head....