(11-08-2014 04:48 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:43 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:40 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:39 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:35 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  I would love to see Coors Light drinkers have a few hardy IPA's. My personal favorite are Double IPA's, but after 3 your either drunk or can't taste a thing.

What a great endorsement. We all want a beer that puts us in a coma after three and/or scorches our taste buds for a week.

So you go from Sissy to Coma inducing....

Yes! If you are in a coma after three beers, you be a sissy, I don't care what kind of beer it is. That wasn't MY endorsement, just my reply. Read a little more closely.

No, you contradict yourself. You first call it sissy... then you said why would you drink a beer that puts you in a coma when drinking the same amount of coors light would do nothing... You either can't debate or you have no idea what the word "sissy" means.

Here, Biff, let me connect the dots for you.

SOMEONE ELSE said they could only drink three fufu beers before they were drunk. That was not ME! I responded, wondering why you would drink a beer that only three of renders you unconscious?

Three fufu beers would not render me unconscious because I wouldn't drink them to begin with. I have no desire to extend my pinky while being sure that the label of my gingerbread pumpkin is clearly visible for all the other Tick wannabes to see. It's no point paying for it if you can't impress someone with it, right?

(11-08-2014 10:11 PM)DooX Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 09:05 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 01:39 PM)waterwagen Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 01:38 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  not even the through the first quarter and SB is already 6 points away from their season high.

somebody needs to chew some players out on the sideline and wake them the F up.

They haven't scored more than 20 all year? Wow...

27 against W&M.

They lost 27-21 to W&M in OT (SB did not score in OT, either). 21 was their most scored until today.

My bad. I just knew that when someone said they hadn't scored more than 20 that they had, albeit 21.

Against JMU they raised their season high from 21 to 24 all in the 1st half.
They'd also only given up more than 21 in regulation once, 28 to UNH.

Horrendous 1st half defense.

Good offensive effort and 2nd half defense. Also decent special teams. At least no multiple horrendous mistakes/gaffes like we've seen in several games.

I looked back to see some of the discussion of why we kicked an on-sides kick and then attempted a 46 yard field goal. Both of which seemed stupid on Withers part. The on-sides kick resulted in 7 points for SB.

But having thought it over since then, I think it shows the strong belief this team and coaching staff have that they can take control. They seem to get fired up as the game goes on and believe they can take chances and still win. I was pretty angry about it at the time.

Did not like going for it in 2Q 4th and 16 on the SB 30. There aren't a lot of good options in that scenario, but if the team has a pooch punt either out of the shotgun or FG formation that would be a good place to use it. It was odd that we would then try a FG in the 4Q 4th and 7 on the SB 29 (same direction too, I think).

Hated the on-side kick. Even more so that it was so poorly executed. Did anyone hear if Withers addressed this later? I hope that this was something they saw on film that they felt could be exploited and wasn't a 'gut' call in the moment.

(11-09-2014 11:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  Did not like going for it in 2Q 4th and 16 on the SB 30. There aren't a lot of good options in that scenario, but if the team has a pooch punt either out of the shotgun or FG formation that would be a good place to use it. It was odd that we would then try a FG in the 4Q 4th and 7 on the SB 29 (same direction too, I think).

Hated the on-side kick. Even more so that it was so poorly executed. Did anyone hear if Withers addressed this later? I hope that this was something they saw on film that they felt could be exploited and wasn't a 'gut' call in the moment.

From Matt Jones Rivals article:

WITHERS ON THE FAILED ONSIDES: If we kick it right, we got another possession. It was there all day. It was just one guy over there and we had four.

(11-09-2014 12:06 PM)JMUDukes1750 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 11:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  Did not like going for it in 2Q 4th and 16 on the SB 30. There aren't a lot of good options in that scenario, but if the team has a pooch punt either out of the shotgun or FG formation that would be a good place to use it. It was odd that we would then try a FG in the 4Q 4th and 7 on the SB 29 (same direction too, I think).

Hated the on-side kick. Even more so that it was so poorly executed. Did anyone hear if Withers addressed this later? I hope that this was something they saw on film that they felt could be exploited and wasn't a 'gut' call in the moment.

From Matt Jones Rivals article:

WITHERS ON THE FAILED ONSIDES: If we kick it right, we got another possession. It was there all day. It was just one guy over there and we had four.

100% agreed. That one was on Aroune for a miserable (probably nervous) attempt. We get that ball 9/10 times.

(11-08-2014 11:25 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:48 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:43 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:40 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:39 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  What a great endorsement. We all want a beer that puts us in a coma after three and/or scorches our taste buds for a week.

So you go from Sissy to Coma inducing....

Yes! If you are in a coma after three beers, you be a sissy, I don't care what kind of beer it is. That wasn't MY endorsement, just my reply. Read a little more closely.

No, you contradict yourself. You first call it sissy... then you said why would you drink a beer that puts you in a coma when drinking the same amount of coors light would do nothing... You either can't debate or you have no idea what the word "sissy" means.

Here, Biff, let me connect the dots for you.

SOMEONE ELSE said they could only drink three fufu beers before they were drunk. That was not ME! I responded, wondering why you would drink a beer that only three of renders you unconscious?

Three fufu beers would not render me unconscious because I wouldn't drink them to begin with. I have no desire to extend my pinky while being sure that the label of my gingerbread pumpkin is clearly visible for all the other Tick wannabes to see. It's no point paying for it if you can't impress someone with it, right?

Wrong. Keep touting Coors Light as the manly beer of 3.5% alcohol... And if you run out of that, I'm sure Becks can fill that void.

So far, we have gotten away with stupid game time calls by the Coaches. It will catch up to us in the playoffs and will cost us a game that we otherwise would win. When you make these bad decisions and say it worked out, you are setting yourself up for future failure.

(11-08-2014 04:22 PM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:16 PM)Purple Pilgrim Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:13 PM)waterwagen Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:12 PM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 04:09 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  Well, then, by all means, Biff, render me another pumpkin wheat early winter ale. You been hanging out with Ticks?

IPA craft beers are hardly fufu. They are hoppier, more alcohol content and don't taste like water like coors light. We will all have to agree to disagree if you think otherwise

I'm not even a big IPA fan, but +1. A strong, craft IPA is one of the more in-your-face beers you can drink.

I love craft beeer, but I think the term fufu can apply to a beer that is 2-3 times as expensive as the Belgian, South African and produced under the name Adolph swill that he's referring to.

What's funny... Most call the big 3 "American" yet all are owned by companies outside the U.S. Also, most craft beer I've seen has been local microbrews who use pure american product. Can't get more american than that.

Yup, America is the center of great craft brewing these days. Meanwhile, Budweiser is owned by some huge European company.

(11-09-2014 12:23 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 12:06 PM)JMUDukes1750 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 11:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  Did not like going for it in 2Q 4th and 16 on the SB 30. There aren't a lot of good options in that scenario, but if the team has a pooch punt either out of the shotgun or FG formation that would be a good place to use it. It was odd that we would then try a FG in the 4Q 4th and 7 on the SB 29 (same direction too, I think).

Hated the on-side kick. Even more so that it was so poorly executed. Did anyone hear if Withers addressed this later? I hope that this was something they saw on film that they felt could be exploited and wasn't a 'gut' call in the moment.

From Matt Jones Rivals article:

WITHERS ON THE FAILED ONSIDES: If we kick it right, we got another possession. It was there all day. It was just one guy over there and we had four.

100% agreed. That one was on Aroune for a miserable (probably nervous) attempt. We get that ball 9/10 times.

Agree, I was tired of MM conservative ball and I like to gamble a little, especially when the coaches see a weakness. We kick that anywhere close to the way it should have been, and we take total control of the game. But more importantly, when you take some chances like this, it sends a signal to the players, that you have confidence in them.

(11-08-2014 02:01 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Marlowe can't run with an FCS TE. Yall calling for a NFL chance need to rethink that

Yeah, he sucks. Same fools last year thought Josh Wells could play in the NFL...

(11-08-2014 02:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

(11-08-2014 02:22 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Ballgame. We can't stop a power run. That entire drive was pure power, and 8 yds a pop. Absolutely embarrassing half on JMU. At least if withers had kicked it deep, they would have had to pass to score

Oh ye of little faith...

(11-08-2014 02:24 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Just check out the trenches. JMU is getting destroyed on both lines.

The Dukes will need some luck and turnovers to win this one.
Not sure why Stony Brook is 4-5 because their lines are excellent.

2nd half line play was light not and day. JMU on both sides of the LOS was better 2nd half.

(11-09-2014 04:05 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 12:23 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 12:06 PM)JMUDukes1750 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 11:54 AM)DooX Wrote:  Did not like going for it in 2Q 4th and 16 on the SB 30. There aren't a lot of good options in that scenario, but if the team has a pooch punt either out of the shotgun or FG formation that would be a good place to use it. It was odd that we would then try a FG in the 4Q 4th and 7 on the SB 29 (same direction too, I think).

Hated the on-side kick. Even more so that it was so poorly executed. Did anyone hear if Withers addressed this later? I hope that this was something they saw on film that they felt could be exploited and wasn't a 'gut' call in the moment.

From Matt Jones Rivals article:

WITHERS ON THE FAILED ONSIDES: If we kick it right, we got another possession. It was there all day. It was just one guy over there and we had four.

100% agreed. That one was on Aroune for a miserable (probably nervous) attempt. We get that ball 9/10 times.

Agree, I was tired of MM conservative ball and I like to gamble a little, especially when the coaches see a weakness. We kick that anywhere close to the way it should have been, and we take total control of the game. But more importantly, when you take some chances like this, it sends a signal to the players, that you have confidence in them.

Whithers' philosophy does not lend itself to individual play analysis. As stated in bold, it is a big picture philosophy which pays off all over the field on plays that most people may not even notice. I am fine with it, even recognizing that sometimes it may have a huge negative impact on the game.

For example, Arnone made a poor kick and the coaches will talk to him about it. This may spur him on to practice it more than he usually would. Sometime in the next few weeks he may get it right when it is needed most.

(11-09-2014 04:19 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 02:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

(11-08-2014 02:22 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Ballgame. We can't stop a power run. That entire drive was pure power, and 8 yds a pop. Absolutely embarrassing half on JMU. At least if withers had kicked it deep, they would have had to pass to score

Oh ye of little faith...

So we're playing that game Doug? It was a bad half, and we made 2nd half adjustments.

And I fully stand behind my comments on Marlowe. He may get a shot in the NFL, but he has been exposed a bit this year in coverage. I hope he makes it, but he isn't dominant on THIS level.

(11-09-2014 04:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:19 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 02:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

(11-08-2014 02:22 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Ballgame. We can't stop a power run. That entire drive was pure power, and 8 yds a pop. Absolutely embarrassing half on JMU. At least if withers had kicked it deep, they would have had to pass to score

Oh ye of little faith...

So we're playing that game Doug? It was a bad half, and we made 2nd half adjustments.

And I fully stand behind my comments on Marlowe. He may get a shot in the NFL, but he has been exposed a bit this year in coverage. I hope he makes it, but he isn't dominant on THIS level.

You'all were saying the game was over. Too many pre mature calls of we suck and the games over in a # of games this year that JMU has been down but ended up winning. If someone was following along the thread but not listening watching they would have thought JMU was down by 3-4 TDs the 1st half way people were acting.

BTW, the SBU back Marcus Coker had a pretty impressive background:
-2010: At Iowa rushed for over 600 yds.
-2011: At Iowa rushed for close to 1384 yds, earning 2nd team All Big 10, 2nd in the Big 10 to Heisman finalist Montee Ball of Wisconsin
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/...olarship/1
-2012. At SBU played behind consensus All American, Payton runner up, 2k+ yd & former 1 yr NFL back Miguel Maysonet. Still gained 1,061 yds in 13 games.
-2013: Out for season due to abdominal injury, got a redshirt
-2014: Not what he once was, their #2 back behind Bell.

(11-09-2014 05:15 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:19 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 02:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

(11-08-2014 02:22 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Ballgame. We can't stop a power run. That entire drive was pure power, and 8 yds a pop. Absolutely embarrassing half on JMU. At least if withers had kicked it deep, they would have had to pass to score

Oh ye of little faith...

So we're playing that game Doug? It was a bad half, and we made 2nd half adjustments.

And I fully stand behind my comments on Marlowe. He may get a shot in the NFL, but he has been exposed a bit this year in coverage. I hope he makes it, but he isn't dominant on THIS level.

You'all were saying the game was over. Too many pre mature calls of we suck and the games over in a # of games this year that JMU has been down but ended up winning. If someone was following along the thread but not listening watching they would have thought JMU was down by 3-4 TDs the 1st half way people were acting.

Easy to go back and play Monday Morning QB on the game thread. I think many of us are of the mindset "expect the worst and you will never be disappointed". Yup I am guilty of that. But what we also have is a group of passionate fans that invested 4 hours on a Saturday trying to watch their team via one of the worst video productions known to Man, I enjoy the banter and the typing of our real time thoughts on the game thread ......and yes we often overreact in the process.

(11-09-2014 06:38 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 05:15 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:19 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-08-2014 02:20 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

(11-08-2014 02:22 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Ballgame. We can't stop a power run. That entire drive was pure power, and 8 yds a pop. Absolutely embarrassing half on JMU. At least if withers had kicked it deep, they would have had to pass to score

Oh ye of little faith...

So we're playing that game Doug? It was a bad half, and we made 2nd half adjustments.

And I fully stand behind my comments on Marlowe. He may get a shot in the NFL, but he has been exposed a bit this year in coverage. I hope he makes it, but he isn't dominant on THIS level.

You'all were saying the game was over. Too many pre mature calls of we suck and the games over in a # of games this year that JMU has been down but ended up winning. If someone was following along the thread but not listening watching they would have thought JMU was down by 3-4 TDs the 1st half way people were acting.

Easy to go back and play Monday Morning QB on the game thread. I think many of us are of the mindset "expect the worst and you will never be disappointed". Yup I am guilty of that. But what we also have is a group of passionate fans that invested 4 hours on a Saturday trying to watch their team via one of the worst video productions known to Man, I enjoy the banter and the typing of our real time thoughts on the game thread ......and yes we often overreact in the process.

+1

(11-09-2014 07:03 PM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 06:38 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 05:15 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(11-09-2014 04:19 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Oh ye of little faith...

So we're playing that game Doug? It was a bad half, and we made 2nd half adjustments.

And I fully stand behind my comments on Marlowe. He may get a shot in the NFL, but he has been exposed a bit this year in coverage. I hope he makes it, but he isn't dominant on THIS level.

You'all were saying the game was over. Too many pre mature calls of we suck and the games over in a # of games this year that JMU has been down but ended up winning. If someone was following along the thread but not listening watching they would have thought JMU was down by 3-4 TDs the 1st half way people were acting.

Easy to go back and play Monday Morning QB on the game thread. I think many of us are of the mindset "expect the worst and you will never be disappointed". Yup I am guilty of that. But what we also have is a group of passionate fans that invested 4 hours on a Saturday trying to watch their team via one of the worst video productions known to Man, I enjoy the banter and the typing of our real time thoughts on the game thread ......and yes we often overreact in the process.

+1

Speak for yourself I remain calm, cool, collected, positive, and full of level headednes during the games