(11-06-2014 08:00 PM)panama Wrote: Other than Marshall, Georgia Southern and Appalachian State how many other move ups does that apply to? UAB, USF, FIU and FAU were in I-AA for 15 minutes. That's to say nothing of Charlotte, GSU, UTSA, USA and ODU. That is a majority of the the move ups of the last 20 plus years and FCS has only existed for 34 years.
UAB, USF, FIU and FAU were in I-AA for 15 minutes. My point exactly, what would be the common denominator with all those schools? Yep geography, only USF had any quick success out of all of them as well.
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2014 10:19 PM by Kruciff.)
(11-06-2014 08:00 PM)panama Wrote: Other than Marshall, Georgia Southern and Appalachian State how many other move ups does that apply to? UAB, USF, FIU and FAU were in I-AA for 15 minutes. That's to say nothing of Charlotte, GSU, UTSA, USA and ODU. That is a majority of the the move ups of the last 20 plus years and FCS has only existed for 34 years.
UAB, USF, FIU and FAU were in I-AA for 15 minutes. My point exactly, what would be the common denominator with all those schools? Yep geography, only USF had any quick success out of all of them as well.
Until Holtz cratered the program USF enjoys a LOT of success as amount program with many upsets,rankings over the first 14 years of the program. Unfortunately that seems like light years away.
(11-06-2014 09:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote: I'm confuse, but why is Georgia Southern even in the to the AAC invite discussion?!?
Georgia only has 2 real D1 schools. I think Georgia Southern is the next school to really step up. Its a nice school in the middle of some of the best recruiting and football in the country. They would be a good add and their athletic department would grow exponetially if they were in the AAC.
But by all means people, keep considering the same old stuff and scoff at the idea.
(11-06-2014 10:59 PM)grapes Wrote: One more play in their two loses and they would be undefeated.
@ NC State 24-23
@ GA Tech 42-38
Against ncsu, our QB muffed a snap in 1st and goal from the 1 that would have put us up 27-10. After that ncsu went on a 99 yard drive, then took the lead with a minute to go.
Against GT, we were driving to score our 5th straight TD to go up 10 with 10 minutes to go when an incomplete pass (pitch forward) was reversed by replay to a pitch. Replay clearly shows the pitch going forward, so there was obviously no way the evidence was indisputable. Some of the worst home cooking I have ever seen. Attached is a screen shot of the pitch going forward that was ruled an incomplete pass on the field, then reversed by replay.
We should be undefeated.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2014 07:22 AM by GSU Eagles.)
meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
The AAC is a huge jump from the SBC in terms of perception and prestige, and we would be extremely fortunate to ever get there. More $$, better recruiting, more compelling games with large crowds etc, etc. With that said, we have the same bowl access and this year shows how easily a team in the SBC can make it. We're a couple of terrible breaks from being undefeated and at the top of the G5.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2014 05:45 PM by GSU Eagles.)
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
Except better competition, but besides that you are correct.
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
The problem is that you're in a conference that only has some relevance for part of the year (similar to the new Big East). The only non-P5 conferences that give you that year-round exposure are the AAC and MWC.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2014 07:31 PM by HuskyU.)
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
The AAC is a huge jump from the SBC in terms of perception and prestige, and we would be extremely fortunate to ever get there. More $$, better recruiting, more compelling games with large crowds etc, etc. With that said, we have the same bowl access and this year shows how easily a team in the SBC can make it. We're a couple of terrible breaks from being undefeated and at the top of the G5.
(11-07-2014 06:12 PM)tnzazz Wrote:
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
Except better competition, but besides that you are correct.
(11-07-2014 07:30 PM)HuskyU Wrote:
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
The problem is that you're in a conference that only has some relevance for part of the year (similar to the new Big East). The only non-P5 conferences that give you that year-round exposure are the AAC and MWC.
I won't deny that the competition may be better.... but in terms of moving up and the "Oh. This conference is better than that. It is all moot point. I don't mean any disrespect to any teams in aac. But in terms of getting the GS brand out there... I would rather play in a weaker SBC and win a couple games over a mediocre acc school and get the same recognition as an aac team that has a harder road. At the end of the day the school that gets the access bowl gets the most pub. And that is what it is about. With that said, I'll take the "easier" route.
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
The problem is that you're in a conference that only has some relevance for part of the year (similar to the new Big East). The only non-P5 conferences that give you that year-round exposure are the AAC and MWC.
In regards to "exposure". Tell me one team in thhe aac that has gotten a high level of attention outside of ECU?
And I ask this knowing that I would love for GS to accomplish anything close to ECU.
SMU has gotten more "exposure" than most teams in the conference this year because they have sucked as bad as they have. No smack intended, just the facts.
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
(11-07-2014 04:29 PM)NCeagle Wrote: meh. No thanks on the move. If we run the conference slate in the Belt, and pull off 2 more plays, we are the top ranked G5 program, and if we had been bowl eligible, would have had a good shot at the access bowl. Being in the AAC would not have changed that at all.
All of the G5 conferences have the same perception to every casual college football fan, and every p5 school fan, with the exception of 1 or 2 teams. Moving from 1 G5 conference to the next does ZERO to gain recognition from a football perspective. And if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself.
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