Time for another hybrid........

Connecticut
Buffalo
Temple
Ohio
Cincinnati
Memphis
SMU
Houston

This time do it right.

(10-24-2014 05:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Time for another hybrid........

Connecticut
Buffalo
Temple
Ohio
Cincinnati
Memphis
SMU
Houston

This time do it right.

And this helps anyone aside from Buffalo or Ohio how?

(10-24-2014 06:17 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 05:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Time for another hybrid........

Connecticut
Buffalo
Temple
Ohio
Cincinnati
Memphis
SMU
Houston

This time do it right.

And this helps anyone aside from Buffalo or Ohio how?

My thoughts too Shizzle

I said before the breakup that the basketball schools vastly underestimated the value the football schools brought keeping the Big East name relevant all year long. Now they may be slowly coming to that conclusion.

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(10-24-2014 06:54 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I said before the breakup that the basketball schools vastly underestimated the value the football schools brought keeping the Big East name relevant all year long. Now they may be slowly coming to that conclusion.

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that may have been true for the old BE (cuse, lville pitt)but not so much for what would have been the current crop that is now the AAC

(10-24-2014 09:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 06:54 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I said before the breakup that the basketball schools vastly underestimated the value the football schools brought keeping the Big East name relevant all year long. Now they may be slowly coming to that conclusion.

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that may have been true for the old BE (cuse, lville pitt)but not so much for what would have been the current crop that is now the AAC

This is where I disagree with a lot of the Big East fans. I'm sorry- but I see a lot more value in going up against Memphis, Temple, UConn, Cincy, SMU now than Butler, Creighton, and Xavier. I think we could have possibly gotten BOTH quite frankly.

(10-24-2014 02:35 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:27 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Georgetown and UCONN just finalized a series for 2015/16 and 2016/17. Good for the game of basketball.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../17838827/

Agreed. It's a shame both schools can't get a series going with Syracuse as well. Of course, we all know scumbag Boeheim doesn't like to schedule tough games out of conference...

We have a 10 game series with GU that was inked last year (if not the year before) and we are finishing a series with 'Nova. Remind me who UC plays.

(10-24-2014 09:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 06:54 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I said before the breakup that the basketball schools vastly underestimated the value the football schools brought keeping the Big East name relevant all year long. Now they may be slowly coming to that conclusion.

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that may have been true for the old BE (cuse, lville pitt)but not so much for what would have been the current crop that is now the AAC

I have to disagree. There was a game between two former Big East schools on tonight. Right now, the Big East is relevant from Jan - Mar. From August to Jan the focus is football games. In April the focus is Spring football. The lack of the constant coverage of the League from Aug - Jan diminishes them in the national consciousness.

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(10-24-2014 05:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Time for another hybrid........

Connecticut
Buffalo
Temple
Ohio
Cincinnati
Memphis
SMU
Houston

This time do it right.

Let's not.

(10-24-2014 10:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:35 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:27 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Georgetown and UCONN just finalized a series for 2015/16 and 2016/17. Good for the game of basketball.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../17838827/

Agreed. It's a shame both schools can't get a series going with Syracuse as well. Of course, we all know scumbag Boeheim doesn't like to schedule tough games out of conference...

We have a 10 game series with GU that was inked last year (if not the year before) and we are finishing a series with 'Nova. Remind me who UC plays.

This year we have San Diego State, VCU, NC State, Xavier, Nebraska, and an exempt tournament with 2 games against Ole Miss, Creighton, and Middle Tennessee. Last year we also had NC State, Xavier, and Nebraska along with Pitt and New Mexico.

I will admit after looking back at past years, Syracuse schedules tougher than I thought -- perhaps Syracuse scheduling soft is more perception than reality. Still hate Jim Boeheim. That's nothing against Syracuse fans, just saying I won't redact calling Boeheim a scumbag. Syracuse's past schedules are fine considering how tough the Big East was/ACC is.

(10-24-2014 09:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 06:54 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  I said before the breakup that the basketball schools vastly underestimated the value the football schools brought keeping the Big East name relevant all year long. Now they may be slowly coming to that conclusion.

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that may have been true for the old BE (cuse, lville pitt)but not so much for what would have been the current crop that is now the AAC

This is where I disagree with a lot of the Big East fans. I'm sorry- but I see a lot more value in going up against Memphis, Temple, UConn, Cincy, SMU now than Butler, Creighton, and Xavier. I think we could have possibly gotten BOTH quite frankly.

Short-term you may have an aargument. Long-termiI think things are better as they are now.UConn cincy Memphis and even Temple are all flight risks. 3 of those 4 don't exactly scream powerful football.
Now if an arrangement could have been reached where the aac was a football only conference than by all means having UConn Memphis etc would have been great

(10-24-2014 02:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  to me- 2 major telling quotes-
Ackerman-
"We were built to be a basketball powerhouse and our intention is to remain as one.''
JT3
"For the last 20 years we could say we were the best basketball conference in the country,'' said Georgetown coach John Thompson III. "Now we can say we are arguably the best basketball conference in the country. We say we're still pretty good but people are looking at that dip and saying, why?''

Those 2 quotes just tell a pretty big story.

You're freakin unbelievable. 15,000+ posts on this board... 2500 posts at the HLOH site (the site leader by 400)... non stop posts by you attacking the Big East... it never fvckin ends, even when we completely discredit you... I mean WTF...? Why do you have such a bug up your ass about us? Are you a paid employee of the ACC, SEC, AAC, ESPN...? Posing as a fake Georgetown fan...

What is telling about JT3's quote? He says that instead of being the clear best conference, we're instead arguably the best conference. Ackerman said we we match the "P-5" as far as stipends, payments, all of that... got it, we will match everything the P-5 is planning on doing.

Are you mad that nobody can break our iron grip on Madison Square Garden?

Are you mad that our conference has had excellent recruiting results...? Mad about Ellenson choosing Marquette over Kentucky and Michigan State...? Mad about Wojo taking the Marquette job...?

Are you still mad about our 500 million dollar contract...? Or our nationally televised games...? Or the improving ratings month by month on FS1...? You don't like Charissa Thompson...?

(10-25-2014 12:53 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 10:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:35 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:27 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Georgetown and UCONN just finalized a series for 2015/16 and 2016/17. Good for the game of basketball.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../17838827/

Agreed. It's a shame both schools can't get a series going with Syracuse as well. Of course, we all know scumbag Boeheim doesn't like to schedule tough games out of conference...

We have a 10 game series with GU that was inked last year (if not the year before) and we are finishing a series with 'Nova. Remind me who UC plays.

This year we have San Diego State, VCU, NC State, Xavier, Nebraska, and an exempt tournament with 2 games against Ole Miss, Creighton, and Middle Tennessee. Last year we also had NC State, Xavier, and Nebraska along with Pitt and New Mexico.

I will admit after looking back at past years, Syracuse schedules tougher than I thought -- perhaps Syracuse scheduling soft is more perception than reality. Still hate Jim Boeheim. That's nothing against Syracuse fans, just saying I won't redact calling Boeheim a scumbag. Syracuse's past schedules are fine considering how tough the Big East was/ACC is.

At the very least, I respect you for admitting you were wrong about SU's schedule.

(10-25-2014 07:01 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 12:53 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 10:05 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:35 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:27 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Georgetown and UCONN just finalized a series for 2015/16 and 2016/17. Good for the game of basketball.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../17838827/

Agreed. It's a shame both schools can't get a series going with Syracuse as well. Of course, we all know scumbag Boeheim doesn't like to schedule tough games out of conference...

We have a 10 game series with GU that was inked last year (if not the year before) and we are finishing a series with 'Nova. Remind me who UC plays.

This year we have San Diego State, VCU, NC State, Xavier, Nebraska, and an exempt tournament with 2 games against Ole Miss, Creighton, and Middle Tennessee. Last year we also had NC State, Xavier, and Nebraska along with Pitt and New Mexico.

I will admit after looking back at past years, Syracuse schedules tougher than I thought -- perhaps Syracuse scheduling soft is more perception than reality. Still hate Jim Boeheim. That's nothing against Syracuse fans, just saying I won't redact calling Boeheim a scumbag. Syracuse's past schedules are fine considering how tough the Big East was/ACC is.

At the very least, I respect you for admitting you were wrong about SU's schedule.

+1

(10-25-2014 04:40 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 02:09 PM)stever20 Wrote:  to me- 2 major telling quotes-
Ackerman-
"We were built to be a basketball powerhouse and our intention is to remain as one.''
JT3
"For the last 20 years we could say we were the best basketball conference in the country,'' said Georgetown coach John Thompson III. "Now we can say we are arguably the best basketball conference in the country. We say we're still pretty good but people are looking at that dip and saying, why?''

Those 2 quotes just tell a pretty big story.

You're freakin unbelievable. 15,000+ posts on this board... 2500 posts at the HLOH site (the site leader by 400)... non stop posts by you attacking the Big East... it never fvckin ends, even when we completely discredit you... I mean WTF...? Why do you have such a bug up your ass about us? Are you a paid employee of the ACC, SEC, AAC, ESPN...? Posing as a fake Georgetown fan...

What is telling about JT3's quote? He says that instead of being the clear best conference, we're instead arguably the best conference. Ackerman said we we match the "P-5" as far as stipends, payments, all of that... got it, we will match everything the P-5 is planning on doing.

Are you mad that nobody can break our iron grip on Madison Square Garden?

Are you mad that our conference has had excellent recruiting results...? Mad about Ellenson choosing Marquette over Kentucky and Michigan State...? Mad about Wojo taking the Marquette job...?

Are you still mad about our 500 million dollar contract...? Or our nationally televised games...? Or the improving ratings month by month on FS1...? You don't like Charissa Thompson...?

You are unbelievable. It is telling that instead of saying we are the best conference they are saying we may be the best conference. If you can't see the difference you are delusional. Ackerman said we were built on being a basketball powerhouse and our intention is to remain as one. If you can't see the pessimism in those comments than you are ignorant. Why would a commish put that quote out there at all? That's just stupid. Would Delaney or Slive or Bowlsby or Scott say that? Not a chance.

And you and others always want to bring up the 500 million contract. Big deal. Give me ESPN Exposure like what the AAC has over the crap that is FS1(setting a new daily record with 4.5 million viewers to watch a baseball game) any time. Exposure is what matters and that's being on ESPN not a startup FS1 that getting 4.5 million viewers is a record. Or a college fb game getting 1 million is noteworthy. The C7 went for a pure money grab- and that decision could doom the conference big time. It's funny- Big East took money and AAC got exposure. AAC to me made out so much better(and probably gets more money in a few years when the deal is redone). To be the ONLY conference in the top 15 conferences not on ESPN is insane. Oh and to say because some of our games will be on Fox- some of these clowns over there were saying that St John's gets better tv than Duke because St John's has more broadcast games than Duke does. Completely ignoring ESPN games- that those aren't nationally televised. I just laugh at how ALWAYS the first thing out of these folks mouths is the 500 million deal.

Just so you know this clown thinks that if Fox doesn't get the Big Ten(which folks on the other site believe is a foregone conclusion because Fox owns half the Big Ten network)- that they are going to force Time Warner to sell to them. Sorry but they rebuffed them already- what makes you think they're going to change their mind.

And you bring up the recruiting. We'll see a lot about it THIS year. Last year was done entirely before the season last year and the pathetic ratings that FS1 got. Right now, the Big East has 6 ESPN top 100 recruits. The AAC(which folks on the other site despises btw)- has 6. So Big East is recruiting as well as the AAC. This year is the measuring stick because everything is done now. The impacts of the new tv deals are felt now.

You act like the Big East today is just like it was 2 years ago and it just isn't. And anytime anyone brings that up- it's an ESPN hatchet job or screw ESPN, or that they are saying this isn't the real big east.

I doubt too many people will be defending the strength of the Big East after the A10 is a stronger conference again this year.

(10-26-2014 03:46 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I doubt too many people will be defending the strength of the Big East after the A10 is a stronger conference again this year.

The question is how long can the Big East go before feeling pressure to go out and expand with St. Louis and VCU if the A10 continues to out perform.

This is not the same situation as a P5 conference where an addition has to pull its weight in TV money. Basketball tournament credits are worth close to 1.75 million over 6 years.

(10-26-2014 04:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 03:46 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I doubt too many people will be defending the strength of the Big East after the A10 is a stronger conference again this year.

The question is how long can the Big East go before feeling pressure to go out and expand with St. Louis and VCU if the A10 continues to out perform.

This is not the same situation as a P5 conference where an addition has to pull its weight in TV money. Basketball tournament credits are worth close to 1.75 million over 6 years.

IMO, they should expand now. Weaken your competition to the point where they have to expand with replacements that further weaken the conference.

(10-26-2014 04:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 03:46 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I doubt too many people will be defending the strength of the Big East after the A10 is a stronger conference again this year.

The question is how long can the Big East go before feeling pressure to go out and expand with St. Louis and VCU if the A10 continues to out perform.

This is not the same situation as a P5 conference where an addition has to pull its weight in TV money. Basketball tournament credits are worth close to 1.75 million over 6 years.

The problem is the idiots running the conference believe there should be a litmus test and VCU thus will never get in. And there are some idiots as well that believe that the new round robin is sacred. Probably from the schools like PC, Seton Hall- that like getting Georgetown, Villanova, and St John's home each year finally again.

(10-26-2014 04:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 04:10 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(10-26-2014 03:46 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I doubt too many people will be defending the strength of the Big East after the A10 is a stronger conference again this year.

The question is how long can the Big East go before feeling pressure to go out and expand with St. Louis and VCU if the A10 continues to out perform.

This is not the same situation as a P5 conference where an addition has to pull its weight in TV money. Basketball tournament credits are worth close to 1.75 million over 6 years.

The problem is the idiots running the conference believe there should be a litmus test and VCU thus will never get in. And there are some idiots as well that believe that the new round robin is sacred. Probably from the schools like PC, Seton Hall- that like getting Georgetown, Villanova, and St John's home each year finally again.

Here's what I can't understand...
You aren't a fan of the Big East.
You aren't a fan of any school in the Big East.
You dislike an disrespect each school in the Big East.

But...
You f*cking tell us what to do.
You f*cking insult us daily.
You act like a ******* on our other site, yet we haven't banned you.

How do you, stever, even give a **** whether or not VCU or Dayton ever gets invited to the Big East...?
Why do you give a f*ck about our sucky, useless conference, which is run by "idiots"...?

I mean, your obsession with the Big East, which you have no connection to in any way, and which you f*cking hate... your obsession in really insane... like, Glenn Close meets Anthony Perkins meets f*cking Carrie's mother... like your the human equivalent of those three conducting a menage-a-trois...

The only explanation for your behavior I can think of is that you have imaginary Martian friends living inside your brain, visible to only you, who command you to write **** about us constantly.