http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get to far out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts and ejecting players.

(10-22-2014 07:53 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts.

You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get out of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

(10-22-2014 08:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 07:53 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts.

You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get out of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

(10-22-2014 09:08 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 08:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 07:53 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts.

You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get out of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

One was ejected by rule, 2 unsportsmanlike fouls in one game is an ejection. The other they tossed, though it wasn't the player who dove at the knees of your Linemen.

(10-22-2014 09:08 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 08:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 07:53 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts.

You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get out of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

That's not true. The umpire on that crew is a hot head who likes to be in the middle of everything.

(10-22-2014 09:17 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:08 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 08:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 07:53 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts.

You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get out of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

That's not true. The umpire on that crew is a hot head who likes to be in the middle of everything.

That's why I think Karl Benson needs to fire this crew, you can't reprimand them again, they need to go. I realize that it's an automatic ejection for 2 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. I was just surprised that they even called it

(10-22-2014 09:30 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:17 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:08 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 08:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 07:53 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayett...ut-special

The Baton Rouge Morning Advocate newspaper said that the referees for last nights UL vs Ark St game were the same refs that were reprimanded by SBC Commissioner Karl Benson after this years UL vs Georgia State game. Look in the above article under You again?

So if you saw quetionable calls or no calls, that is probably why. In my opinion there was a call or no call that went against each team that could have possibly changed the game or not. I think these referees should be fired even though they were a little better than the Georgia State game.

I'm just tired of these wanna be refs in the SBC. One positive that I give to the refs is they didn't let the game get out of control by calling unsportsmanlike conducts.

You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get out of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

That's not true. The umpire on that crew is a hot head who likes to be in the middle of everything.

That's why I think Karl Benson needs to fire this crew, you can't reprimand them again, they need to go.

I don't think its Benson's choice. That goes to Steve Shaw.

It wasn't good.

(10-22-2014 09:34 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:30 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:17 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:08 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 08:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You thought that game was "In Control?"

Both Coaches fully admitted the officials let it get ou7t of control because they waited too late to start the flags and didn't warn the teams beforehand.

At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

That's not true. The umpire on that crew is a hot head who likes to be in the middle of everything.

That's why I think Karl Benson needs to fire this crew, you can't reprimand them again, they need to go.

I don't think its Benson's choice. That goes to Steve Shaw.

Just curious, why didn't Steve Shaw reprimand them instead of Benson?. Is Shaw Coordinator of officials?

(10-22-2014 09:52 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:34 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:30 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:17 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 09:08 PM)IdahoCajun Wrote:  At least they started throwing flags because normally they wouldn't throw any. For this crew to throw any flags for unsportsmanlike conduct was an improvement for them. It shocked me that they actually ejected players. They need to be fired.

That's not true. The umpire on that crew is a hot head who likes to be in the middle of everything.

That's why I think Karl Benson needs to fire this crew, you can't reprimand them again, they need to go.

I don't think its Benson's choice. That goes to Steve Shaw.

Just curious, why didn't Steve Shaw reprimand them instead of Benson?. Is Shaw the head of officials?

Shaw handles officials assignments as head of officials.

I wonder if this is the same crew that threw a flag on one of our WRs last year when he acknowledged the crowd after a TD; calling it taunting and saying (as an explanation after the game) that he was throwing a gang sign

(our lily white, upper class, Rice transfer, 4.0, Opie Taylor WR)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../16877971/

I think Coordinator of officials, Steve Shaw and Commissioner Benson reviewed the refs mistakes and reprimanded them. There were many bad calls in the game than just the one discussed in the above article. They were terrible all game.

I doubt if it would have made national news if they missed a down in that situation with 15yrds to go. There was alot more to it than that. They made so many terrible calls. I didn't even realize they screwed Ga St out of a down with all the other bad calls.

The game was 4+ hours because the officials kept having smoke break meetings to discuss whether or not to call a penalty. Every 3rd play the entire crew would throw their flags. It would take an additional 15-30 seconds to pick up all the laundry after the plays.....THAT WAS A LONG FLIPPIN GAME

don't forget about the fumble that wasn't a fumble that ark state recovered after they scored 2 in a row. That very well could have changed the game.

(10-23-2014 10:02 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  don't forget about the fumble that wasn't a fumble that ark state recovered after they scored 2 in a row. That very well could have changed the game.

Or the first TD they were given with 12 men on the field and everyone thought the RB was down, that if any of our guys hit we get a 15 yard penalty. Those 2 bad calls are are at least a wash. In fact, if they don't botch the forward momentum call so bad the first time, stAte probably gets that fumble.

His forward momentum wasn't stopped, he was tackled but just not all the way to the ground. Don't see anything wrong with the way that play was called.

They actually got the RB call right. It was surprising.

(10-23-2014 10:08 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  His forward momentum wasn't stopped, he was tackled but just not all the way to the ground. Don't see anything wrong with the way that play was called.

Both his feet were off the ground, unless he has wings his forward momentum was stopped. If we hit him, we draw a flag for late hit

(10-23-2014 10:08 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  His forward momentum wasn't stopped, he was tackled but just not all the way to the ground. Don't see anything wrong with the way that play was called.

Except for maybe the 12th man that ran onto the field from AState because he thought the runner was down as well. :-)
I still say if a Cajun defender goes in and hits the running back in that position there is a personal foul for hitting a runner on the ground.

Your forward momentum has to be stopped by the opponent. The NFL rule says:

"Article 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:
(a) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body
other than his hands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner
touching the ground with his hands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to
advance; or
(b) when a runner is held or otherwise restrained so that his forward progress ends; or"

The runner was not restrained or held by the defenders so he is still "live". The refs actually did the right thing unlike the other play and did not blow the whistle too quickly. That allowed the play to be reviewed and confirmed.